Also just to add, If you remove the WSR/Vabbi from the equation - the fights between most of the other servers are actually quite competitive... yes thats because they are less skilled, but the other servers (not all but most) can all put out blobs there are fairly evenly matched. So perhaps the argument is not so much about how to deal with those maybe 5% of 'hardcore' players... its how best to cater for the other 50-70% of players who log in regularly, know what they are doing, but are not 'hardcore'. The other lost % is the dross that cant be helped any which way.