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3 hours ago, Terrorhuz.4695 said:
No.
1) Thief has damage.
Backstab hits for 7k, Impairing Daggers hits for 7k, Cluster Bomb hits for 4.5k, Larcenous Strike hits for 4.5k, Pistol Whip hits for 7k, Shadow Shot hits for 4.5k, Skirmisher's Shot hits for 3k (but it's 1200 range and has 0.5s cast time, no aftercast), dagger has the best AA in the game excluding transformations (stuff like holo forge and shrouds). You don't lack damage, every time a thief lands anything on you, you're SAD.
2) Thief already has some of the best defensive skills in the game.
Uninterruptable healing skill, Shadowstep, Dagger Storm, Roll for Initiative, a metric kittenton of blinds and ports, weakness on every attack following a dodge (and they dodge a lot), on top of the insane disengaging potential from Unhindered Combatant (or stealth on dodge as a deadeye), most of your attacks have evades (Pistol Whip, Death Blossom, Flanking Strike, Disabling Shot), and a lot of cleanse sprinkled around.I'm all for lowering ini costs on some skills and we've talked about that (vault, sb5, sb4), I'm all for improving usability on some skills (Scorpion Wire, most of staff skills) but damage and defensives are already frankly bloated. I tried it myself, thief is not brittle and I repeatedly got away with stuff that would have killed me instantly on any other class. Some classes can spam obscene amounts of stealth (rangers, PU mesmers, thieves) and part of the roster has exactly 0 ways to interact with that. I'm sorry buddy, I love you and I respect you but being given a free win against 30% of the roster just because you can press 5-2 for 30 minutes doesn't feel fair.
You write this like you can get all of this in 1 build. I mean who plays with death blossom nowdays? xD
When there should be such a relic...... dmg has to be increased alot on non stealth attacks because when u get revealed u can't use as example backstab and so u loose alot of dmg output. Further more im no fan of passiv stinky things like in ESO where u have Proc Sets ("WvW" in ESO is pretty dead because of big balance issues and Gear Wars + bad performance). They should give all classes some reveal options where the player has to press a button and play the game actively instead introduce more passiv kitten because peoples are to lazy to learn and play the game. Don't forget that there are still also Sentries and Watchtowers (WvW Mode) in the game which give a perm reveal. Would be overkill when the thief get revealed every 3 secs because of traps, target painters, sentries, watchtowers, reveal skills and of top of that then also a relic which auto reveal them. lol
For sPvP the reveal uptime is also longer than in WvW and i do not know why thief is there still a problem. For me thief is pretty fine in sPvP atm.
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and a relic which stops invul, blocks YESSS plsss 😄
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11 hours ago, Burnfall.9573 said:
did you bothered to check to see why I replied to the poster? It is literally there. How can you miss it? I encourage you to pay attention before replying instead of making accusation.
Old and New? Yet what changed? Stealth uptime?? Where? When? Yet Thief Profession can still perma-stealth??
So care to tell the me and the Community, including Thief Profession players; what has those "changes" done to give Stealth Mechanic counterplay?
This is the point of the video; so carry on.....
by the way, thanks to Anet promoting exploits and stealth abuse, they gave Thief Profession; Mesmer Profession portal which is given permission to exploit the game.
here's the link
care to say explain this with the reworks with lost of traits ??
Am I writing with a bot here or are you just acting stupid? Go read the wiki if you want it in black & white that the thief has received reworks and also nerfs.
For that I don't know what the above has to do with the below. Exploiting do different people on different classes and the bugging on the Red Borderlands in the fortress as well as in the academy etc. is known for years. It's not the class's fault and it's in ArenaNet's hands to fix these things.
You like to mix up arguments to gaslight the class here on Tryhard. For this you use over 5 years old videos to continue your crude confirmation bias. Give it a rest, really.
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9 minutes ago, Burnfall.9573 said:
As I already have said; I will not buy the next expansion because of the Toxic fiasco mess in the game. Secondly; to seal my word, if Stealth Mechanic is not removed from all of the Professions with the exception of redesigning/reworking it to be exclusively to Thief Profession...I Will Never Buy Any Expansions of Guild Wars 2 nor Speak a word of it in the gaming market.
It is that simple
That is alot of Mimimi.
It is that simple.
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2 hours ago, TrollingDemigod.3041 said:
Stealth is an effect like boons. It is a boon that have only 1 counter mechanic, revealed.
An effect is an effect and not a boon.
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11 minutes ago, ilMasa.2546 said:
Granted that thieves have the maximum accesibility to "on demand stealth"...yes u can spam for positive effect.
Im getting bored of this level of copium...it's a lost cause.More is lost when there are peoples which doesn't even know the difference between Traits/Skills & Boons. I think there's a bit too much playing around with untruths and mixing things up here. Thus, a picture is drawn, which does not exist. This is lacking in basic knowledge if you do not even distinguish traits from boons.
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23 minutes ago, ilMasa.2546 said:
Mercifull ambush
Shadow's Embrace
Meld with Shadows
Shielding restoration
Just read thief traits...how convenient 🙂 uh !?
That are not boons. 😶
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Just now, ilMasa.2546 said:
Uh no!?! If you want to spam kitten you actually have to build it up.
"litterally" lolNext person which don't understand that Ini is a global Cooldown system. When u can replenish that only infight...oh god....thief is not warrior and isn't designed for eating the dmg like warrior. What is this for a suggestion.....
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2 hours ago, TrollingDemigod.3041 said:
Class that has 0 counters, thanks for providing proof of that.
Can we finally delete teefs and stealth from game?0 counter.........
Look the video again and tell me that u see what my opponents failed at. Expecially the two at the sentry. xD This vid is about how bad the lvl is today. And im no way one of the top thiefs.
Even if the thief is deleted, it still would not make you better.
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On 7/23/2023 at 10:06 AM, Burnfall.9573 said:
The more Anet continues to put up with Guild Wars 2 Toxic Stealth Design, the more I have been exploring other gaming company competitive games who do does not have that in their game. 11 Years of Anet putting up with this is enough for anyone to not be Loyal to Anet.
I never sworn Loyalty to Anet: Guild Wars 2, I sworn Loyalty to healthy gaming experience including to putting the players experience first before profit.
Look at stealth Mechanic...11 years...with no rework
Look at Thief Profession....being the most broken design Profession in the game
Look at Guardian Profession newest bad design specialization-Willbender-a circus clown jumping all around the place.
It is no surprise after all the years including present day.....Anet Loyalty is in keeping Bad Design in the game
It will never end, Anet will keep adding more and more Bad Design into the game. It will never be enough, never will.
So much for putting the player, the Community experience first..
~~Remember, Be Loyal To Those Who Takes Trash Out~~
Look here Burnfall i did made a actual Stealth video for you 😇 So now u have some actual footage and don't have to use some over 6 year old vids. xD
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On 7/13/2023 at 9:43 AM, Burnfall.9573 said:
Did any forget about Thief Profession- Scorpion wire? its range is 1200 which is Absurdly Ludicrous. What made Anet think of equipping a non-long range role Profession with a long range capability?
This is what I mean about Profession Identity Theft and Role Hijack...
-Professions roles with their capabilities are being given to other Professions...whose roles are completely different than theirs including their capabilities.
How can a d/d Profession can have long range skills, mechanics...capabilities like a Long Range Profession?
example; another worse example of this is Guardian Profession-Willbender
A Complete Bad Design Mess
The range of this Profession having long leaps...completely decimates Guardian Profession role as a support and a healer.
It is as if, Guardian Profession suddenly transform into a loose wild animal, 'high on medications'
It is not even funny really, it is sad that Professions are behaving like wild animals.
Seriously, there should be a Warning Sign on top of those Professions with the words, 'Beware I Have A Animal Inside Of Me'
-refocusing back to pulls--Just Remove It Completely from all of the Professions
Really....you are whining about everything. Now it is even scorpion wire which is considered of beeing one of the worst/buggiest Pulls in the game. xDDD Mate maybe this game isn't for you when you whine 24h per day about everything.
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12 hours ago, Burnfall.9573 said:
This Video is 7 Years old. Stop posting old things burnfall for once. Because now there are sentries, watchtowers, traps, target painters and several classes did get reveal skills. Also thiefs shadow arts got reworked and he lost on several traits stealth uptime. This is really getting out of hand with you that you everytime post very old vids to actual discussions.
Btw: The thread is about willbender and not stealth.
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55 minutes ago, senftube.6081 said:
Okei bro tell me then how u wanna play D/P after smokefield would be deleted? xD Go make THIEF asap with D/P and show us on a video how u manage to play D/P without it. U can also show us how to play P/P. Lets go Dawdler.
Yeah i would also like a video where Dawdler show me this. 😇
4 minutes ago, Invictorum.7643 said:Genuinely not sure if serious. Remove the single biggest effect of a skill, lower cost by 1 initiative. At that point, Shadowshot is legitimately just a better ability on the same weapon, if running D/P. P/P loses its ability to consistently throw blind out via blackpowder -> unload.
Black powder cannot have its smoke field removed without then rebalancing pistol offhand as a whole for thief. And even then, stealth based gameplay is the most core design FOR thief, there's an entire trait line built around it.
He doesn't understand what you want to tell him, because he only sees the game through his rose-colored glasses. He just has not understood in 11 years that the game was not developed just for him alone and PvP / WvW is not a Safespace. Thief is overall in a good spot Balance wise now, the only thing where anet should look is on bounding dodger (this one is indeed annoying ) + some DE Builds.... and to give the thief class more roles.
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On 7/24/2023 at 2:59 AM, GoldenPants.1870 said:
I said it, it had to be said, I'm sorry, but celestial gear is balanced, your stats doesn't reach as big as three or four stat sets, I think the issue no one wants to learn how to play and counter builds that uses celestial, if it wasn't balanced then no one would run anything but celestial. It's balanced, people just need to learn to play around it.
I have died several times on celestial harbinger, and people say celestial is unkillable, people just need to stop overreacting.
No it is NOT balanced.
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33 minutes ago, Random dude.5089 said:
yeah a multiplayer game where you get into 1 v 3 and getting stunned dazed heared doted by 3 people , yeah marauder will defenetly work in this kind of situation , or maybe let cele build so people can actualy have a significant fair fight against multiple people , if you get dunked on by cele , that doesn't change anything in your gameplay , tons of meta builds are not cele builds , if cele was this broken , nobody will run other builds , most of them still are even better or even equal to cele builds , like i said , i know people are mad about cele , but cele is not ruining your wvw roaming playstyle or anyone playstyle , its the opposite , its making you strong enough to deal with the pocket healers and their potential of giving all kind of boons to make your roaming life miserable , your also just proving my point and you clearly didn't bother to read what i typed , im gonna rephrase it again for you , cele is made for solo players that invest themselves into roaming , so if hes in a roaming situation where the pocket healer or the 5minute daze group gank him , he actualy have a chance since it makes him very bulky and can sustain against two people slaping his cheecks at the same time , do i realy need to explain again ?
That has always been the case. xD I've been roaming for almost 11 years and it's the risk you take when you're solo. The fact is that WvW is a group mode and not really one for solo play. Especially since the balance is not designed for 1vs1 in WvW anyway. It is a multiplayer game at the end. 🤷♂️
And yet, that's still not a very good argument for having a set in WvW that simply has hardly any tradeoffs. Have you calculated how much more stat Cele has than the others? That's not just 20 more.....
A problem I also see -> newbies also never learn to dodge properly & move because they simply eat the damage. Unfortunately, I see this very often in my roaming training courses.
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1 minute ago, Random dude.5089 said:
cele gear is made for outnumbered playstyles , means if you run into a roamer with his cute pocket healer premade , you can actualy try and 1 v 2 , since your more tanky with healing and toughness , i dunked on actualy good players with cele stats multiple times , yes cele is anoying to play against , but its puprose is made for 1 v 2 and 1 v 3 even just killing one guy and dying is at least fun , which is a roamer playstyle in case your world is getting dunked on consistantly and you can't even run 2 miles without finding 2/3 people sticking near each others , the whole community is fuming with cele builds yet anet didn't do anything about it ? why is that ? the answer is , if it was that broken , anet woud have nerfed it with the virtuoso nerf , since virtuoso was the most anoying class with cele build and rune of the defender , but clearly its not as broken as you think , a guy showing himself killing people with a cele build is not an evidence to show that its broken , i do this stuff with trailblazer and marauder too ,and there is youtube videos of people doing this with legit berserker and viper gear but i understand the frustration that people hate the build , but cele is made for people who run into the stinky premades that roam arround with 2/3 people with pocket healers.
So rather plant a bloated Set Gear into the game instead of the players playing a MUTLIPLAYER game together. Makes sense.
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I think noody expressed very well what is problematic about Celes balance. 🙂
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The bias towards ele is obvious. I mean how many patches now that this classes got very juicy things/reworks........
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Big Fail and how long now for the fix? EBG now full with them hahaha 🤡
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Needs a Hotfix asap
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2 hours ago, Esufer.8762 said:
why do people have such strong feelings about sigil of celerity? it's 5 seconds of quickness on a 20 second ICD, hardly OP
You should really taste some cele pizza.
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56 minutes ago, roederich.2716 said:
has nothing to do with the stat, against good players who actually know how to fight and move he will not hit like that with his slow skill clicking.
Skill Clicker Chief vs Vallun. Yeah he will not hit. Vallun even loose that duell. No blame here both are great players but that insulting against chief is not really nice.
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4 minutes ago, cthaeh.2168 said:
The player in that first video is like level 3000. How many hundreds of hours of play do they need to reach that? What builds were his opponents running and what were their experience levels? Because I'm seeing alot of fights against bronze and lower afk camp flippers near spawn.
Vallun addresses this in his video--you can't really judge these builds by some heavily-edited montage video. Just watch the WvW level jump all around in the corner. Anyone can cherry-pick fights from hours and hours of footage to present themselves as some WvW god, but I'll bet they cut out all the times they got smoked by someone better than them. That's not really a compelling argument compared to what Vallun's pointing out.
WvW Lvls tells nothing about how good someone is in roaming. To open doors and kill NPC's doesn't show the personal skill of someone. There are roamers which never take any Tower, Camps etc. and they can be on Bronce lvl. Then there are many which use Alt accounts (Smurfs).
Also, don't forget the main PvP players, who quite often have pretty low WvW lvls. Don't get fooled by shiny lvls with no meanings.
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SUGGESTION: a relic to give revealed
in Player vs. Player
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Ranger and PU mesmer do not have a Stealth Attack mechanic like thief. So the main "victim" would still be the thief class with such a relic.