The real problem with the Lich form isn't that it does damage, or any of its actual abilities. Its that the whining on this forum has been so effective at all but removing necro from viability in the PVP+WvW game that them having one single skill that isn't a joke results in shock that they can actually still do something. I wish mesmer was as as unviable as necro is in wvw or pvp, its not like I saw ~4 necros in each pvp match last time I played, or that half the squads in wvw are made off necros, they are just soooo unviable, nobody touches them.At newbie ranks, where people haven't figured out that the singular defence that necro has is always sheer bulk, it can be effective, anywhere else where people remember that CC is a thing though? its useless and always has been except for a few periods here and there.