HnRkLnXqZ.1870 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) It is one of the more controversial topics among the community. There are re-occurring discussions in the General Discussion board, but except for the request towards ANet and the backlash from people who want precious resources spent elsewhere, those never lead to any progress at all. On the other hand, I do believe we already have a tool for that in the game - Guild Halls. I know both the pro's and con's about this path, like the intense pay-wall and the countless of limitations with guildhall-decoration itself. But I think I have figured out a method that could actually work out. I would have done it earlier, but as you will see below, this 'idea' consumes a lot of resources. The BasicsLost Precipice guidhall has four house-buildings in the northern upper area. In addition there is a waterfall-palace in the north-eastern part of the map. I create a guild, claim the guildhall and offer the five locations for people who want to try out housing. The Difficulties While creating a guild is rather easy, claiming a guildhall is rather expensive and not that easy to begin with - especially when you are alone. Decoration is directly connected with scribing. But in order to scribe, you need a scribe-station = Workshop. This means you have to setup basic infrastructure in the guildhall: Tavern => Mine => Capacity 1 => Workshop. Another big problem comes with the mobility as the four houses and the palace are in remote areas. Upon unlocking the further-exploration upgrade, there is a new waypoint at the houses, but that requires guild-level 40. Even if you manage to solve all of those problems, your villagers start with 0 decorations. And if they want to make decorations, they need to level a scribe - preferably up to 400. That still does not include any decorations at all. The Solutions - Guildhall claimed and upgraded to Workshop and Decoration Merchant (Tier 1). - The mobility issue was solved with two pairs of Djinn Portals, which connect the lobby with the houses and the palace. - Every party that owns an estate will have a Decoration Starter Kit at their disposal. Crafting own decorations is still possible, but not mandatory. In addition, you can also request special crafts. The Limitations - There is basically no real privacy. It works with trust. We do not have doors or any methods to lock people out of the houses. - NO Lattice, Well, Mossy Pillar, Wagon and the decorations related to those. And there will not be any monuments to put text on. It would require too many resources to unlock those. - 5 parties only. I do not care how many people 'live' in the houses, but the waterfall-palace should be owned at least by a group of 3. - The instance-capacity conundrum. Guildhalls cannot be used for mass-gatherings, due to a design flaw. The first instance is designed for a total of 5 players. When a 6th enters, a new instance will pop up with 10 slots. When the 11th enters, a new instance will pop up with 15 slots. ... etc. - You need to sacrifice a guild-slot.'The SchedulePHASE I - COMPLETE: Creating the guild, claiming the guildhall.PHASE II - COMPLETE: Upgrading the guildhall towards Workshop (Tier 1) and Decorations Merchant (Tier 1).PHASE III - COMPLETE: Establishing a portal-connection from the lobby to the four houses and the palace.PHASE IV - COMPLETE: Decoration Starter KitPHASE V - IN PROGRESS: Gathering VillagersFurther Steps - While the village slowly fills, I'm thinking about expanding the village. I found two locations which would fit quite well. Looking forward to any kind of thoughts, ideas, suggestions and complaints. The project is still in the build-up process, so there is room for modifications. Thanks for reading ^^ [UPDATE] It is March 2022 now. The demand for housing is unfortunately rather low. I was not able to fill all 5 slots by now. Two of the three I managed to fill are guild-members who were interested in that project. Only one was actually decorating their home, the other two parties have not done anything noticable. Running any kinds of surveys is completely out of the question. I think the restrictions scare many people off, as well as the fact that it is FOR FREE. Sacrificing a guild-slot is also kind of meh.[UPDATE] Another villager left. 3/5 estates are vacant. One of them is the waterfall-palace. As long as I cannot even fill the existing slots, expansion does not make much sense. Edited May 10, 2022 by HnRkLnXqZ.1870 UPDATE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvellous.4620 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Sounds like a nice Roleplay project, have fun with it. I still hope arena net will implement it in the future properly, just imagine how much they could make via gemstore with it alone 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HnRkLnXqZ.1870 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Decoration Starter Kit (in progress) The lists below show what every single estate/party can use from the beginning. As we are starting with five estates in total, you can multiply those by five to get the total amount for each decoration. There exists a scribing-station in the guildhall and you are free to use it to craft your own decorations. But you do not have to start from scratch. FOUNTAINS Spoiler 2x Basic Fountain 1x Illuminated Fountain 1x Griffon Fountain 1x Lion Fountain OBJECTS Spoiler 1x Crystal Prism 2x Raven Statue 1x Charr Scrap Cannon 2x Corrupted Eagle Shrine 2x Corrupted Ox Shrine 2x Corrupted Wolverine Shrine 2x Owl Statue 1x Gramophone 1x Elonian Vase 2x Grandfather Clock 5x Basic Crate 5x Basic Basket PLANTS Spoiler 1x Effervescent Pod 1x Grenth's Palm 5x Basic Shrub 5x Basic Tree 1x Potted Night Thistle 1x Potted Jungle Grass 1x Potted Croton 1x Potted Broad Paddlefrond 4x Pot of Chrysanthemums FLOOR Spoiler 3x Racetrack Straightaway 3x Racetrack Long Straightaway 5x Cardinal Sabir's Token 5x Recreation Room Floor Fragment 1x Super Lily Pad FURNITURE Spoiler 5x Elonian Wood Chair 4x Plush Sofa 4x Plush Armchair 5x Basic Chair 2x Ornate Bed 1x Library Shelf 1x Wide Library Shelf 4x Square Cabinet 4x Basic Bookshelf 5x Basic Planter 2x Elonian Wood Table 2x Fancy Table 2x Square Guild Bar 5x Basic Table 5x Fragment of Saul's Burden FIRE & LIGHT Spoiler 5x Basic Torch 5x Basic Candle 10x Red Lantern 10x Zephyr Lantern 1x Woodfire Grill 1x Fire Circle 1x Campfire ARCHITECTURE Spoiler 5x Basic Column 2x Ominous Fortress Wall 2x Lunar Arch 1x Red Festival Tent 2x Red Festival Umbrella [EDIT] That should be enough for a start. I will keep adding more decorations to the kit. Edited January 9, 2022 by HnRkLnXqZ.1870 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HnRkLnXqZ.1870 Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) PHASE V - Gathering Villagers In the first step, I have tried to recruit people in this thread. That did not work, obviously. But I wanted to give the curious ones (200 views+) a chance. The second step moves the recruitment part straight to the Looking for Guild subsection. The Zodiac Village is a guild-project after all and I am basically looking for members. So it does not violate the rules. After talking to a few people, I figured out that the basic knowledge about how decorating works in GW2 is often missing. Guilds are quite restrictive when it comes to ranks and rights. The ones I have been in over the years only allowed a few special people to decorate. In order to give those an insight, who have never touched this feature before, I have created a small Decoration Guide over the last week. The way to go for this week is the recruitment-thread in the LFG subforum. If the slots are still not full by the end of the week, I will reach out further. Note: I will not bump this thread any further, just update the posts until all slots have been filled with participants. You are still welcome to give feedback in the form of suggestions, ideas and complaints. Big Thanks for reading o/ Edited May 10, 2022 by HnRkLnXqZ.1870 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly.7019 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) I think it's an interesting idea however it's still just being apart of a guild. It's march 23rd and this is the first i'm hearing of any sort of community thing in 5 years. 😄 but i think that's probably due inpart to the fact i'm not much of a social media guy. I wish there was a discord or I wish i knew of a discord gw2 decoration channel for both EU and NA. I know ESO has a massive decoration community, but i'm surprised I haven't heard of one for gw2. I mean there are plenty of youtube people who decorate their guild halls and i'm sure they have their own communities, but i really haven't heard of a multiple guild/ gw2 decoration community discord. I'd make one myself but again- not much of a social media all star. 🙂 Edited March 23, 2022 by Kelly.7019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly.7019 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) On 11/14/2021 at 5:01 AM, Marvellous.4620 said: Sounds like a nice Roleplay project, have fun with it. I still hope arena net will implement it in the future properly, just imagine how much they could make via gemstore with it alone 😄 Yea, that's kind of scary thinking how they went the wrong way with gardening. I could see for personal housing (if they change their minds about it) certain deluxe mansions estates for sale on the gemstore, but i'd also like to see large homes availaible for ingame gold. Personal housing could be an entirely new end game content. The concept is there with guild hall decoration. The next lil step would be to add decoration to your personal instances. decoration for the solo player shouldn't be expensive the for the vast majority of decs, only for rare decs or even special gemstore furnishings! There is potential here. If that works anet could grow it massively into more end game content where both people that want to decorate and others that just sell the decorations to make gold could be happy. Edited March 23, 2022 by Kelly.7019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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