conradpedalo.5381 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I've read where the RoS does not proc with every heal. Does anyone know if it works with signet of malice's passive heals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamreaver.4908 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 It does. Wish there was a wiki list somewhere for this specific rune showing what all it works with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vincent III.1286 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Even if the Signet of Malice synergies with Sanctuary Rune, why would a Thief take this rune? I'm genuinely curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babazhook.6805 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 I have that very answer!! As a test I slapped one of these on my D/D condition thief who is in settlers/apoth/shaman mix. In any case his healing well over 1000.Use assassins reward. Use SOM. Spec daredevil with its heal. You get a barrier of 1000+ thats on forever. Throw in Caltrops and with other damage utilities (along with your impaling lotus) and that 1000+ buffer to health that always there is mixed in with ongoing heals of 1500+ on a DB. You shrug of conditions and are very resilient to damage.[It takes forever to kill anything though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamreaver.4908 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 @babazhook.6805 said:I have that very answer!! As a test I slapped one of these on my D/D condition thief who is in settlers/apoth/shaman mix. In any case his healing well over 1000.Use assassins reward. Use SOM. Spec daredevil with its heal. You get a barrier of 1000+ thats on forever. Throw in Caltrops and with other damage utilities (along with your impaling lotus) and that 1000+ buffer to health that always there is mixed in with ongoing heals of 1500+ on a DB. You shrug of conditions and are very resilient to damage.[It takes forever to kill anything though. As I've been build testing lately, I went with something similar. In my experience, I found the barrier only all that good for being at max health, so your first bit of incoming damage doesn't drop you too far. But after that, if you take more than one hit, you're playing catch up to get your health back up the entire time. Because of that, I found it mostly beneficial for fights with a lot of incoming pressure, while for longer, slower ones (most champion solos), healing yourself for more is better since you will likely just be dodging everything anyway making barrier of lesser use as it'll just expire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babazhook.6805 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 @KidRoleplay.3615 said:@babazhook.6805 said:I have that very answer!! As a test I slapped one of these on my D/D condition thief who is in settlers/apoth/shaman mix. In any case his healing well over 1000.Use assassins reward. Use SOM. Spec daredevil with its heal. You get a barrier of 1000+ thats on forever. Throw in Caltrops and with other damage utilities (along with your impaling lotus) and that 1000+ buffer to health that always there is mixed in with ongoing heals of 1500+ on a DB. You shrug of conditions and are very resilient to damage.[It takes forever to kill anything though. As I've been build testing lately, I went with something similar. In my experience, I found the barrier only all that good for being at max health, so your first bit of incoming damage doesn't drop you too far. But after that, if you take more than one hit, you're playing catch up to get your health back up the entire time. Because if that, I found it mostly beneficial for fights with a lot if incoming pressure, while for longer, slower ones (most champion solos), healing yourself for more is better since you will likely just be dodging everything anyway making barrier of lesser use as it'll just expire.Yes this depends on number of enemies as well as how you mix your skills. As example , if you are fighting 5 or 6 enemies and drop a caltrops and mix in a Daggerstrom , that barrier can push well over 3000. You will rarely see it drop. If you are fighting a single enemy you actually worse off. Now I have used this in wvw a few times against a cluster of people on catas trying to take down our walls and they had a hard time hurting me if they remain clustered. It the same with champions/veterans in open world. if they have minions around them you do better.This of course because your SOM heals 3 times as much, you are more likley to proc an evade for escapists and your caltrops and or dagger storm have more targets that hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamreaver.4908 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 @babazhook.6805 said:Yep. It's one of my favorite thief builds at the moment. Wouldn't mind a little bit more damage though, or at least the Apostate attribute spread being released one day.But, yeah. A complete list of what the rune works with would be lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babazhook.6805 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Well I am 99 percent sure it works on the damage from Daggerstrom and caltrops. I never did test the heals that are in SA. I may test that in the future. I am not too sure about regen either . I am going to have to try and isolate these to get them to tick so I can see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamreaver.4908 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 @babazhook.6805I just mean in general. As in, it should be posted on the wiki somewhere for all professions. I already know it works on Daggerstorm and Caltrops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vincent III.1286 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 @babazhook.6805 said:I have that very answer!! As a test I slapped one of these on my D/D condition thief who is in settlers/apoth/shaman mix. In any case his healing well over 1000.Use assassins reward. Use SOM. Spec daredevil with its heal. You get a barrier of 1000+ thats on forever. Throw in Caltrops and with other damage utilities (along with your impaling lotus) and that 1000+ buffer to health that always there is mixed in with ongoing heals of 1500+ on a DB. You shrug of conditions and are very resilient to damage.[It takes forever to kill anything though. That's some build. 1k healing power, 3k armor, 16k health, plus barriers...looks fun. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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