ori.5829 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Incase if people wonder about the support trait from Salvation Traitline:Eluding NullificationDodge rolling removes a condition from nearby alliesHas a 10s CD.By comparing this to the trait Warrior has on dodge (nice damage on dodge) and Thief on dodge (Vault or Lotus) which are all strong dodge traits, and also the Guardian heal on dodge. Those all have no Cooldowns.Why does Revenant have a 10 second cooldown here? In PvE it wouldnt be OP anyway, and in PvP/WvW it would definetly help against the condi meta, the removal of the CD would be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esplen.3940 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Your equivalent is Retaliatory Evasion, although that's a pretty terrible trait, too. It'd be better if it was a minor, but still not necessarily good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenith.7301 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 No, the equivalent would be daredevil's which has no cd on condi removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esplen.3940 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Ah yes, comparing a Major Master on a core line with a Major Grandmaster on an elite spec focused on endurance/improved dodges. My apologies. I did not see that they were on the same playing field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ori.5829 Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 Dont forget that thief also has "Uncatchable" without any CD which is on core line. 10 seconds cooldown is just WAY too much. Revenant is already lacking fluidity in gameplay and condi cleanse. Why not just remove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messiah.1908 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 more easy is to have 2 condi cleanse instead of 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ori.5829 Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 @messiah.1908 said:more easy is to have 2 condi cleanse instead of 1. Yes ofc, and with 2 dodges you would remove 2 condis. But you would have to go Salvation traitline for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messiah.1908 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 @Aury.1367 said:@messiah.1908 said:more easy is to have 2 condi cleanse instead of 1. Yes ofc, and with 2 dodges you would remove 2 condis. But you would have to go Salvation traitline for that!i meant instead 1 dodge remove 1 condition it should change to remove 2 conditions. this way 10 sec cd is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenith.7301 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 @Esplen.3940 said:Ah yes, comparing a Major Master on a core line with a Major Grandmaster on an elite spec focused on endurance/improved dodges. My apologies. I did not see that they were on the same playing field.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Escapist%27s_AbsolutionNot a major grandmaster. Just your average master trait.And core and elite is a meaningless distinction if we are to take at face value that elite specs are meant to be sidegrades to the class, not flat out superior traitlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taobella.6597 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 to be on pair with thief dodge it should be a 5 second CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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