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I dunno about Rangers in core since they were practically as rare as unicorns on EU. But, yeah we had cancer oneshot garbage back in core with Thief + Mediguard duos.
I don't miss it one bit.
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@apharma.3741 said:It's mostly a LF generation issue, in core they had to really commit to getting LF but now not as much. LF generation also needs to be made accessible to all weapon sets, sceptre barely generates anything.Making Scepter 3 an ammo skill with 1 corrupt per cast and bumping Life Force per Condition down from 1% to 0.5% would probably do the trick.Or do something with Scepter 2. Scepter 2 is insanely boring.
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@Tayga.3192 said:Also, holding 1v3 for 30 seconds against 3 top players is already a very big feat, that's the same duration as mesmer portal.So I'm basically a beastly godgamer then. Because I ran in circles solo for a proper 30-40s alone at mid against Sind and Misha + some random ranger on core condi until Boyce showed up and killed them in a match like a week ago.
Holding node on top of that would be chronobunker level if not greater.Not really going to happen tho. Chrono didn't give a shit about CC. You can't say the same for Necro.
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@Tayga.3192 said:Also it's pretty useful considering Hero held power rev, thief and prot holo 1v3 for 30 seconds in mAT finals in EU, and he was 75% hp. Could even stay alive longer if he just left the node.Ehhhh. I can't see it gaining traction in Conquest. It could survive half a minute 1v3 but it couldn't keep the cap and it can't do damage outside of lich. Decapping a point from a Necro is too easy for it to ever become an effective bunker and it lacks the tools to recap it. It's also not going to be doing much at all in teamfights. Maybe it could work as a ressbot and act as a condi magnet against condi heavy comps with traited Plague Sig, but that's unlikely too. Signet of Undeath is really easy to interrupt and costs the Nec 10k HP if it gets interrupted and it has no stability to cover the ress with.
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@"Aktium.9506" said:Man, I wonder how many of the people complaining about Unholy Sanctuary are mistaking manual shroud entries for US proccing.Nice, if that's the case, we can make US 300s cd right?I mean yeah, sure. You don't really take it for the procc. You take it for the regen in shroud. I can probably count the times where the procc has actually saved me on my two hands at best. I'm slightly perplexed as to why this is even an issue. Death Magic isn't really used at all for Core Condi. And I can't see bunker Nec being very useful in 5v5.It's like any other passive and it needs to be 300s.Its really not. Others have already said why. But if we want absolute consistency then the following traits also need 300s CD: -
Man, I wonder how many of the people complaining about Unholy Sanctuary are mistaking manual shroud entries for US proccing. Because I'm just gonna point out that what looks like a tiny sliver of health left for the Necro to you is probably actually 4-8k health for the Necro. Most Necros know they won't be chunked for that much and can pressure or kite while that low and will just shroud manually if they actually do get attacked.
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@FrownyClown.8402 said:Hello necro mainNothing about CC actually changed for Necro tho ?Except for the handful who used to slot FitG, but that was a garbage trait anyway.
Every other class complaining about CC now are just experiencing the game as it always was for Necro.
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@Arheundel.6451 said:what about we cut frontload burst by 50%Fiddling with burst itself to a larger extent than what has already been done would make trying to finish any build with decent self sustain really awful though. I suppose you could do that if Anet sort of standardized finisher skills and traits that increase damage below a certain health threshhold so every class has a few options in their kit.
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I'm pretty sure the point was to make 1-2 people cleaving a ress unviable as opposed to using CC and actually stomping.
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@Psycoprophet.8107 said:Why shouldn't portal be playable in a matchIt has been said and shown by the highest echelon of players that portal always has been and always will be busted for what it provides to coordinated teams.
That's not really going to change as long as it has that same functionality. It should truly be split in functionality from PvE and WvW so it works like Sand Swell in PvP.
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It's much better.
You still die pretty fast to a coordinated 3-4 man spike at first engage on mid as a Nec. But the difference between it taking 0.5 seconds to 5 seconds makes all the difference.
The old garbage oneshot meta where you spent the first minute of a game doing jumping puzzles and trying to LoS every direction at the same time to avoid the stealthed lads who were without fail trying to jump you was just awful and boring
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@"NorthernRedStar.3054" said:Eats all the heavier damaging skills like a good standby golem: "It's not me, it's the class!"
This is the best self-own in this thread.Sometimes dodging is just too much effort. Especially in a match where your sidenoder has just lost like a dozen 1v1s in a row in under 5 minutes.
Bird autoattacking still managed to be top tho.
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@Shagie.7612 said:And the death recap combines those skills all the time, in the same way it does for Maul(Pig) and Ranger Maul.
@Odik.4587 said:I guess, its the ranger auto tooThe name doesn't matter. The skills have different ids in the api and that's the data the recap uses. GS slash is 12474 and and the bird slash is 12682.
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@Stand The Wall.6987 said:how do you eat that many bird autos? doesn't normal kiting take care of that lol?birb go fast
You aren't going to be kiting much of anything on core condi nec. Especially not when you get caught with your pants down on the most open part of the map with nothing to LoS with nearby.
The necro solution to pets is honestly to just kill them off rather than trying to avoid them. I'm not sure I'd even say the bird is op or anything, but its damage is probably out of line compared to other pets.
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Bird is definitely a pain to deal with
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@Avatar.3568 said:Yeah the condi bomb with fear and torment deals zero dmg@Avatar.3568 said:I have those numbers by my self. Core condi necro can do Extremely dumb condition numbers.If you are out of stunbreaks and your stab is transformed in fear, and he gets the fear chain you are lost in condi numbersGonna point out that Tainted Shackles is only 8 stacks of torment if all 4 pulses hit. Terror is about 1k per tick. Nothing to scoff at for sure, but I'm not sure I'd call it a condi bomb. If you got hit by more than that it was probably from condis on the Necro being transferred with Putrid Mark or Plague Sending.
Only really condi bomb from Core Condi is the last few ticks of Plaguelands.
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@"Kuma.1503" said:What happens when you systematically strip away "bloat" which is a fancy term for cutting mechanics, trait synergies, and sometimes... entire abilitiesMost of the truly egregious offenders where this has happened have been especs that were stupidly OP. Nerfing them to the point of effectively removing them from gamemodes like with Scourge and Mirage is more than right. Trying to bring other classes up to the same level of stupidly strong would have been the worst decision ever. Just think back on some of the dumpster fires we've had with both the aforementioned ones as well as some notable like Boonbeast, Deadeye and Holo. The baseline of balance should always be the core builds. If certain especs are grossly overperforming and can't be fixed easily it's better to just kill it off.
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Nonsense. This is the best meta we've had in a while. Fights don't end in a split second, CC isn't nearly useless anymore, Mesmer is where it belongs =)
These are good times.
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I think Mesmer is in a good place right now.
Alas, I detest Mesmer and wish further suffering upon Mesmer players.
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probably disabled due to perma invulnerable eles
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@apharma.3741 said:He mains mesmerIn that case it's actually kinda understandable why he'd think shroud gen is too high. With clones you could definitely get almost instant 80% LF at start if you do Lich pre-match start and just GS3 the clones on first engage.
@Stand The Wall.6987 said:the quickness spam def has to go. most power crept trait in the game. maybe 2 sec quick on hitting 3rd auto.Alternatively make the RS skills 33% faster as baseline and reduce damage by another 33% and make the trait do something else.
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@Arheundel.6451 said:reduce life force regenerationReaper shroud gen is pretty wank though. It's mostly just Spectral Walk and Armor, GS3 and Focus 4. Both Spectral Skills are definitely things you can kite. If he's running the shout heal as well he won't have any condi cleanse except Well of Power or Suffer. I'm also going to point out that Reaper is still very susceptible to CC. It's also hard countered by Burn Guard.
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@Eurantien.4632 said:though I am confident rifle war could easily be played at a plat level successfully.We've had a couple of Warr mains with rifle builds a handful of seasons back in high plat/low legends on EUI'm hazy on the details but they were somewhat more manageable than Rangers because no PBS and no pet that can CC while the Ranger is ranged
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I'll be honest, nothing has changed for me. CC still feels the same on Necro. I was always a ping pong ball.
I do feel schadenfreude for the other classes though =)
Problem with necromancer balance (PvP)
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Blood Magic should have been shaved alongside the damage nerfs though.