both out of meta and wont be used by elite guilds. elementalist is DEAD Lol, so wrong. Both are still meta, and heal tempest is still used by "elite" guilds. hmm no ... good ol tempest is outclassed by scrapper and weaver by scourge and both by a long way . ele is RIP and will be RIP for has long has ANET makes them a REAL unit . not an absolute joke of a unit. and im one of the oldest ele in the game prob... and yes ele is off meta in EU,NA and CN/asia