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Haha I wish, but many game dev studios kinda work like this. They do one thing while having another “project” floating in the background. Slowly it becomes the new big project while everyone still thinks the older thing is the focus.

Ohh sorry I misread then. Same rules apply here though. Legalese to us to maintain retention and player investment, and the red pill without sugar coating it to the investor. Also they weren’t “opposite things”. One was just a nicer more carefully worded way of saying it so that all the gw2 diehards like us would still feel there’s a bright future for gw2, and our time isn’t being wasted knowing gw3 is coming.

Wishful thinking Id call that

Well yeah because people aren’t getting the message lol, or keep denying it. But I don’t mind reiterating. Video game development is a lot of PR. To not know that is to not know how the game industry works. Ncsoft spoke legalese just like anet did when making an official statement. But to an investor spoke the honest truth with no reservations. Anet is not spending all their time on gw2, their resources are divided. If you want to cope that’s your prerogative

Gw2 can still be played and we can still expect updates! Just nothing as major as the first three expansions we got being released at one time.

Not a google translation. Bilingual players have confirmed it’s correct. Also ncsoft never retracted the statement. Just face facts it’s being made. You should expect an announcement sometime in the future. And at the very least understand not all resources are being focused on gw2.

Tbf I made those requests not knowing they were working on gw3. But new information was provided and I learnt they are now, so adjusted my expectations accordingly:) It’s a bitter red pill to swallow for sure, especially not knowing what that game will be or if it will be good. But in my opinion (and this is just my opinion you don’t have to agree with it) gw3 is a great idea. It’ll give them a clean slate to start fresh and attract new players. If they learn from the mistakes of gw2 (of which there are many) then they can potentially do an even better job with the next title:)

Yeah it’s showing big time. Idk to me it’s a bit uplifting. The future is on the horizon, and potentially we could get an entire new guild wars game! Why be strung up on all our hours and gems spent on gw2 when a potentially better game is in the works? I know it’s hard not knowing if the next game will be good or not, or what it will or won’t be, but if they don’t take this risk gw2 might get caught stuck in the past. The game engine for example is rumored to be very difficult to work in. It’s spaghetti code tbh at was made like 2 decades ago. Unreal 5 will bring a ton of ease of use and much better graphics tbh. That means maybe more updates and less bugs:)

It’s not just a silly google translation my good man, it’s literally what was said. Allow me to refer you to this post below ⬇️ Notice how NCsoft didn’t retract their statement (which would’ve been done if it was false lest they take a huge beating from investors), but instead gave PR jargon saying they are “considering” it. They say that of course knowing that customers, like many on these forums, have a huge attachment still to Gw2 and want to feel like their invested playtime is not being wasted cuz of a new game being made on the horizon. We’ll see who was right all along but tbh GW2 is still gonna get Soto style expacs so why not just enjoy the little bite sized meals until GW3? I’m sure we’ll all look back at this little fiasco and laugh knowing that gw3 had much better graphics and hopefully better systems also.

Yeah it might be confirmation bias, cognitive dissonance along with some sunken cost, but I’m not gonna presume. All we know for sure is GW3 is in the works and has led to less dev time and money being spent on GW2. Not believing it is either just not knowing yet or denial.

Arena net said one thing and ncsoft said something else. They were messages that conflict with one another. I was just pointing out to that person that both ideas can technically be true at the same time because anet was using lawyer speak. I swear I feel like barely anyone on these forums has heard of “press relations” when it comes to game development. Arenanet said they’re “sole focus” is on gw2 because they want to maintain player retention and keep their bottom lines. It won’t age poorly because they’re still making mini expacs like Soto, they’ve said that themselves. Ncsoft though confirmed that Arenanet is also working on GW3. That means Arenanet is saying something to us that can easily be defended in years to come. But it’ll technically look true. In other words, PR.

Holy cow one person on these forums not on the dangerous copium it’s a miracle 😭

They’re both true. Anet is just using lawyer speak.

It’s a game wide problem. The small population for ranked with its own mmr system puts p2’s against silvers. This is why the leaderboards always looks totally weird and unlikely. Cuz they’re rigging the system and win trading/multiboxing on off hours. Basically there’s no reason to go into ranked competitively unless you’re willing to break tos (which I wouldn’t advise).

Yeah make that thing mobile, I swear when I see a new player use 100b in place and he’s expecting things to happen and nothing happens I feel so bad.

Sure that could get a small nerf, maybe bring some of the healing down with the healing coefficients going up to allow support stat builds to still be effective .

Neither of the statements were lies. It’s just the one told to us by anet was lawyer speak. The one told by ncsoft wasn’t lawyer speak, but inside info to get an investor feeling more confident about the future. Kind of like a parent revealing a Christmas gift early to a kid to make them more happy about the upcoming Christmas. What anet told us is PR gobbledegook to keep us invested and playing their game. It won’t age poorly because in many years after more Soto style expansions they can look back and say “see guys? We gave you lots more gw2 content, and now to reveal our next big game: gw3!” It’s the illusion that they have only one thing in the pipeline at a time, and all their focus is based on that. They want to show us, the customers, that gw2 is all that matters. But NCsoft needed to show their own investors that there will be future growth, which came into conflict with the first message anet is showing us. It doesn’t necessarily mean one is lying. They could both be true but spun in different ways for different audiences, which is exactly what happened. We were told that they’re focused gw2, which is technically partially true. And the investor was told anet is working on gw3, another statement that could be true. It’s just anet is walking and chewing bubble gum at the same time. They are working with one team on gw2, and another on gw3 pre development. All this means, and what I’ve been trying to constantly say, is that the company is in fact not working on only one project. Ie, not everything is going towards gw2. And this means we should not expect a new expac that moves heaven and earth to reinvent the wheel like HoT did, that’s all.

Okay I guess a person working at ncsoft saying they’re making it means they’re not making it, and the sky is yellow apparently 🤷‍♂️

Oh that’s an easy one, because their priorities and their bottom line demand to put all the focus on open world meta trains and personal story for the largest base of players: casuals. Nothing’s wrong with that of course many of the meta trains and maps are fun to explore and play in. It takes a lot of resources (more than anything else without a shadow of a doubt of what they’re working on in gw2) to make that content because of everything it requires: voice acting, cutscenes, large new environments, new quests, new character models, new music, new writing for the stories, new concept art, new storyboards etc. A new PvP mode in comparison, while still expensive, doesn’t require as many resources.

https://m.inven.co.kr/webzine/wznews.php?idx=294408 It’s a bigger confirmation than anet it saying it. It’s the people that own anet saying it.

It’s meaningful because many people apparently don’t wanna believe gw3 is even a thing, and that somehow gw2 will make a glorious comeback with some amazing new feature that is more than just meta events and new maps with new weapons or traits or skills.

Well I mean there’s literally a confirmation unless you won’t believe it. Which a lot of people apparently don’t want to believe😂 If Microsoft said they’re making a new Halo game, would you not believe it until 343 said it? No of course not. You’d go in what Microsoft said cuz they have the funds, the money. They make the decisions and green light things. It’s more than a bit of evidence it’s a watershed moment. But the power of denial is a dangerous thing I said I think all i can on this topic, we’ll see how well it ages. I just hope this post survives and doesn’t get taken down by mods or something cuz I want to revisit this in many years when it’s confirmed just to prove my point that it was in fact Soto style content until gw3

Arenanet isn’t technically lying when they tell you that, they are focusing on guild wars 2 and it IS their focus for “the foreseeable future”. Which to us who don’t know as much as they do means a few years. So when GW3 is announced in years to come that statement will technically look right. It’s PR man! Isn’t that obvious?😂 To us it’ll look like it’s just been Gw2 content and nothing more. But behind the scenes, and what is confirmed (unless you want to believe the guy was lying in which case be my guest) NCsoft said to a shareholder that they are already working on GW3. Arena net is doing two things at once here, and that’s the point I keep trying to say to deaf ears. Two things means not all resources on Gw2. The GW3 leak means it has the potential to be not just some one off dumb thing but a seriously massive project.

Like I said previously, even if they weren’t working on GW3 (which I think time will prove to every doubter here that they are. It’s a shame this forum post will probably vanish by then. The level of confused faces will only confirm my suspicion that many players are on serious copium) they still 100% are working on something else. That means that resources are not all going to GW2. This is just puzzling to me and slightly funny. Here you literally have a guy who works for the publisher (ie the owner) of Arenanet. They are telling investors to their face that GW3 is coming (iceberg dead ahead) and the Titanic that is these forum readers choose to believe it’s a lie. And it’s a lie because? Oh yeah greedy businessmen lie when pressed… right… Or maybe he just actually leaked a really big secret to impress shareholders. I think the latter possibility speaks for itself but by all means root for the narrative you support. That tells me all I need to know. We’ll see in the end who was right though won’t we. I did learn though that confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance are much more prevalent and real than I once thought. When told something is red but you want to believe it’s blue, you’ll make up any excuse in the book to justify why that color wasn’t red.

Ah I see, so the guy at NCsoft just lied to cover his tail and make the company look better than it was? Why would he lie to an investor like that if Gw3 was not being made? The truth is getting out eventually one way or another so why risk tanking the stock even more? Wouldn't it be easier to just mention an actual game in development in NCWest? A game like Idk, the one after Gw2, whatever game that would be called. Maybe Gw3, the name really rolls off the tongue. Idk, I just can't wait for the announcement to prove I'm right. And even if I wasn't right my point still stands. Resources are going into other stuff that is not Gw2, which means tempering expectations for new content for Gw2 is reasonable. Never hearing any argument refuting this point other than people naively thinking someone at NCsoft lied because it serves their narrative interests.