[If you don't get vocal on Mantra changes, you'll regret it]

I don't have a problem with the mantra rework.. I preferred this way.

[Guardian changes preview Feb 3]

6 hours ago, otto.5684 said:

I do not think 10% buff to GS AA and symbols will put the damage where it needs to be. and considering that DH is parsing like 34K, it needs way more than that. This marks the 3rd patch that Anet did a “small buff” to fix damage output. Do they not know what is power dps rotation or do they not know how to do math?

 

If the objective of FB changes is to make it viable in spvp, it won’t. 
 

Not sure about Unscathed Contender. I really wish we can get rid of aegis all together. 
 

The only really good change this patch is the WB virtues. This is a really solid change.
 

At best, these changes will make power build parse around 36k. Probably less. The changes to DH and FB are not going to make them spvp viable. No changes to LB. WB desperately needs work/rework so none condi builds are not dead in pve. This is really mediocre. Why is fixing FB and power builds is 12 month exercise? Like seriously. Can guardian get a fraction of the dev time other classes got over the last few month. And please have someone who actually understands the class so we have changes that are sufficient to fix something instead of spending 4-6 patches and still missing the boat.

You're right, it's just mind boggling. I really hope that we see Willbender changes next patch, even this patch. They still have a bit of time before it goes live.

[[NOV 29 PATCH][PVE]DH is Still Just "Meh"]

9 hours ago, FtoPScrub.5476 said:

Once again, the buffs were woefully inadequate. See you in 3 months for our quad-annual .1 coefficient increase to a AA chain while FB randomly gets 2K DPS buffs. And they wonder why people are choosing condi guard over power 😆

Yup. Kind of a shame right now, it's still gonna be too low 😕

["Power guardian builds still aren't quite at the level we want them to be in PvE..."]

1 hour ago, Forbiben.3842 said:

Is it missing a mark if it isn't a priority? we have viable dps builds for all 3 specs condi or power doesnt matter. I would love to see Sw/Sw WB but my want isn't always the priority for an entire community.

I heard we are due three more Firebrand reworks before we can even begin to consider Willbender as a priority

[February 14 Balance Update Preview]

Hello, just stopping by to share suggestions for the Willbender. The point of this post is to make Alacrity Willbender viable :

PvE Willbender suggestions

[PvE Willbender feedback: how to make it better]

The following Reddit post gives suggestions to turn Willbender into a powerful offensive support :

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/10uf2qp/current_problems_with_the_willbender_in_pve_and/

["Power guardian builds still aren't quite at the level we want them to be in PvE..."]

1 hour ago, Gaiawolf.8261 said:

You don't get it, do you? Somewhere out there, somehow, there's a player doing 39K DPS on golem with DH, and they have to keep him in check.

True... You're right... I'm sorry

[Willbender needs more love than what it got in today's balance stream to help its playability.]

Power alacrity WB also needs groupe share might and some buffs on offhand sword to be honest

["Power guardian builds still aren't quite at the level we want them to be in PvE..."]

I fail to understand how they manage to miss the mark three times in a row... It's really infuriating

[Dragonhunter needs stronger buffs...]

The changes planned for February 14th are not good enough. The sword and greatsword buffs are far too low. It's still going to be stagnating above 36k DPS with a perfect damage rotation.

This feels unfair for a spec that exists exclusively for power DPS. On top of that, the virtues build (which is higher damage, but unrealistic) was straight up nerfed, with no real compensation...

More damage increases should be considered across the board

[Guardian changes preview Feb 3]

So instead of working on Willbender/DH, they actually reworked Firebrand, once again

 

I'm glad they still have a sense of humor

[Willbender's offhand sword needs to turn your main hand #3 into a dual attack]

On 12/19/2022 at 1:35 AM, Falseprophet.1502 said:

The point of this post would allow the third skill to be improved upon whilst providing some uniqueness to WB and not power creep cWB. If done right, sw3 would be even more powerful (in PVE), be better in WvW/PvP, and allow pWB to be buffed easier. 

What I meant by that is that I'd rather have this new unique mechanic change something like the auto chain, because it's really bad. But making Sword3 better would be cool too of course. They could make a new animation/increase the speed, have it be a flip over skill when using two swords with higher damage output, lower cooldown, and free movement. I'm just concerned by how much they actually need to buff the ability to justify this flip-over skill. For autos, it would be much easier to find a good compromise, cause they're terrible.

 

Overall I agree the Willbender feels completely uninspired, and the double Sword gameplay fantasy isn't fulfilled at all. I really hope it's next on the list of reworks cause it needs one desperately. At least one flip-over skill to give the spec more identity around double-Sword gameplay 

[Have HB expectations changed in fractal groups?]

If people are dying in fractals - unless it's related to a shared or party mechanic - it's their fault.

Healers are entirely optional, people who run without premade groups simply prefer to run with one because it makes their experience smoother. With the amount of dodges available, the healing skill, the 100% endurance regen with vigor + potion or class-specific trait + potion, as well as personal defenses integrated in practically every build, you have enough to survive every cm boss on your own rather easily. Same for T4s

[Havent played in awhile but heard a lot of stuff got reworked, so did DH longbow get any buffs?]

On 1/5/2023 at 7:34 PM, zeyeti.8347 said:

so 50 k on siaxx the first couple of seconds is a tiny burst ? 😁

but yes thats all the Dh has today , while a lot of classes an e-specs got a damage review , the Dh was left with leftover and very small damage tweeks.

and yes Slb has is more bursty 

Didn't say tiny + yes it is sadly. There are many more specs that do much better right now 😞

[Havent played in awhile but heard a lot of stuff got reworked, so did DH longbow get any buffs?]

7 hours ago, zeyeti.8347 said:

It has an initial burst very high , so in fractals encounters like 99 and 98 cm , it's pretty good , cause all those fight have phases where you can replicate your initial burst .

but yes on fights who last more than 15 secondes , Dh fall deep on dps for most players , re-adding the +20% damage on f1 skill instead off +15% could help a bit , doenst know why they changed that .

It actually has a pretty underwhelming burst, especially compared to Soulbeast. It's not at all what it used to be. It's just underperforming all around.

 

It's still decent, but not amazing

[Willbender Needs these three changes immediately]

PvE Power Wb desperately needs a sword-focused gameplay or it will keep on having zero identity.

 

Rushing Justice: 1.5 → 3

Willbender Flames: .22 → .9

Executioner's Calling: .75 + 2.5 → 1.5 + 4

Advance Strike: 2 → 3

 

Zealot's Defense: 4.8 → 5.6

 

Holy Reckoning: Might is shared with allies.

 

Virtues' Unscathed Contenter still needs a rework. Core Greatsword could use slight buffs too.

 

I don't understand why such simple changes are still not considered. PvE Willbender was almost unchanged since its inception

[Willbender's offhand sword needs to turn your main hand #3 into a dual attack]

I'd rather have it change the autochain, sw3 is actually a powerful ability

 

 

[Firebrands Red Virtue do not fit with Guardian Profession Art Style.]

Finally we address the real problems here

[The cd increase on true shot is holding dragonhunter back.]

On 12/1/2022 at 3:46 AM, Infusion.7149 said:

You can't use weaponswap to enter a kit.

Plus the latest wingman numbers run counter to the claim that "DH is harder" (than condi engi no less, is this a sarcastic comment?) because even with the current "lower benchmarks" the actual performance by players is roughly on par with holo.

i.e. VG with +35% power bonus https://gw2wingman.nevermindcreations.de/raid/vg
-- median DH is ~16.3K, median holo is 15K, reaper is 11K (due to the greens the life force is an issue obviously)
KC with 35% power bonus https://gw2wingman.nevermindcreations.de/raid/kc
-- DH ~22K , Holo ~20.7K, reaper 17.7K
Gorseval https://gw2wingman.nevermindcreations.de/raid/gors
-- DH 16.5K , holo 16.3K, reaper ~14.7K
MO "golem benchmark" https://gw2wingman.nevermindcreations.de/raid/mo
-- DH 27K , Holo ~27.5K, reaper ~21K
Mai Trin strike https://gw2wingman.nevermindcreations.de/strike/mai
-- DH 13.4K , Holo ~12.1K, Reaper ~11.7K

I know you both have a guardian agenda (similar to some players who have a mechanist agenda...), but let's not bend the truth to suit that agenda to the point that comparing to REAPER is a thing.

Edit: also never has holo been stacked in the history of this game unless it is for memes, same for reaper.

Holo is 2 to 7k higher than DH on every boss now, by the way. It's almost as if the data was too inconsistent a few days after the patch to make assumptions based on it

 

I still stand by my point that DH is in an embarrassing state

[The cd increase on true shot is holding dragonhunter back.]

3 hours ago, Mell.4873 said:

Dragon Hunter is Guardian Low Intensity Build. 

I think every Guardian player will just have to face the fact that Dragon Hunter will never be a top DPS with its playstyle being the way it is. 

Your only hope is that the next elite has a more complex playstyle which is more rewarding to play DPS. I guess Willbender could be that one day.

Wrong, wrong, and wrong

 

[The cd increase on true shot is holding dragonhunter back.]

2 hours ago, FtoPScrub.5476 said:

That's two consecutive PvE patches where the balance team has properly identified Dragonhunter as an unperforming spec, and two consecutive PvE patches where they have failed to address the issue. How many more is it going to take? How many people left feedback saying the balance team was being too conservative with DH and Reaper buffs, yet the patch has come and to the surprise of no one, and despite the last minute buffs to Reaper, both specs continue to underperform.

Your comment on its own is a great summary of the situation. I completely agree and do hope that this can get the visibility it needs

[The cd increase on true shot is holding dragonhunter back.]

5 hours ago, Infusion.7149 said:

You can't use weaponswap to enter a kit.

Plus the latest wingman numbers run counter to the claim that "DH is harder" (than condi engi no less, is this a sarcastic comment?) because even with the current "lower benchmarks" the actual performance by players is roughly on par with holo.

i.e. VG with +35% power bonus https://gw2wingman.nevermindcreations.de/raid/vg
-- median DH is ~16.3K, median holo is 15K, reaper is 11K (due to the greens the life force is an issue obviously)
KC with 35% power bonus https://gw2wingman.nevermindcreations.de/raid/kc
-- DH ~22K , Holo ~20.7K, reaper 17.7K
Gorseval https://gw2wingman.nevermindcreations.de/raid/gors
-- DH 16.5K , holo 16.3K, reaper ~14.7K
MO "golem benchmark" https://gw2wingman.nevermindcreations.de/raid/mo
-- DH 27K , Holo ~27.5K, reaper ~21K
Mai Trin strike https://gw2wingman.nevermindcreations.de/strike/mai
-- DH 13.4K , Holo ~12.1K, Reaper ~11.7K

I know you both have a guardian agenda (similar to some players who have a mechanist agenda...), but let's not bend the truth to suit that agenda to the point that comparing to REAPER is a thing.

Edit: also never has holo been stacked in the history of this game unless it is for memes, same for reaper.

I didn't compare condi engi and DH, only Holo. I also didn't say DH was harder than Holo, I said it was trickier to play efficiently, which is true

 

The data you're using is also just a couple dozen logs for each spec, since the patch came out two days ago. Besides, take gorseval for example; Cata is just 1k above both. But cata benches 8k higher than Holo and 10-11k higher than DH. Should that mean that we must leave its dps as it is, even though players are performing equally poorly on all of them? History says no.

Also what's with this criticism about having a guardian agenda? Are we just dropping the big words now 😅 am I part of a conspiracy too?

[The cd increase on true shot is holding dragonhunter back.]

@Infusion.7149 DH is by no means easier than Holo. Have played both extensively and DH is far trickier to play efficiently. You can also use weapon swap for kits, I would know since I've been posting condi engi benchmarks for years. @otto.5684is right in saying you are way off mark here

[The cd increase on true shot is holding dragonhunter back.]

Even if they lowered it to 4s it would probably not be enough

[Guardian is too weak to compete]

As Holosmith reaches Soulbeast-like burst and DPS, Catalyst and Thief sit at 44.5-46k; meanwhile, Vindicator managed to break 40k on small hitbox, and Chrono and Spellbreaker are just shy of 39k. Even Weaver and Power Untamed, when you least expect it, bench higher than ever at 39k+ on the first day.

 

It seems as though only two classes got the short end of the stick this time, and maybe Berserker too.

 

Even Reaper, against the odds, is on the brink of doing 36k thanks to additional buffs. Dragonhunter is doing about the same, maybe even slightly less.

 

I think it's a shame that Guardian and Necro don't get to have a strong power option. Guardian has two power-based specs for crying out loud. They both get outclassed by basically everything as it stands today

 

Can we expect both DH and Reaper to reach an easy 37-38k without having to wait four more months? Surely a 5-10% damage mod somewhere isn't too much to ask!