I hope they improve Untamed soon...

[Khenzy.9348]

On 6/25/2022 at 7:26 AM, Tazer.2157 said:

Trust me, you don't want to buff up a spec that can shadow step to your face, CC you, put you inside a vine cage, do massive damage while it retains defensive boons while it applies weakness to you. Quite frankly its absurd having the class do all these things. The Untamed requires a learning curve but it can be very deadly in the right hands. 

Noone is advocating for buffs to Untamed's PvP performance here. It's also nowhere near as effective as you claim it is and even less so for the effort it takes (and even LESS so after the Tailswipe nerfs). We want mechanical changes.

 

The spec has issues in regards to ease of play, it has a needlessly spammy and high maintenance low reward nature, or the inexistance of a supposed PvP gameplay that revolves around pusnishing CC players but just doens't work due to stunbreaks and CC skills themselves doing negligible damage, so noone uses hammer and therefore the spec in not really being played as originally intended (and we know this due to the Discord leaks). 

 

Also, they do low DPS in PvE.

 

There's a reason Untamed's feedback has been overwhelmingly negative.

Edited June 27, 2022 by Khenzy.9348

[Kaenaydar.5631]

On 6/23/2022 at 5:41 PM, Jijimuge.4675 said:

There is a bit of news regarding Untamed, though perhaps not what some may be seeking.

Interesting re the pet control changes he mentions, though that's more of a long term project, by the look of it.

See - https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/vicgjf/comment/idgl11l/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

 

The auto cast QOL will help a lot there is times in fractals, raids, and strikes i just dont have time to order pets to do stuff they should do on their own like on core.

[Zaret.1450]

2 hours ago, Tazer.2157 said:

Untamed does massive damage already. It gets 25 % extra damage with the "Vow of the Untamed" Trait and another 15 % extra damage with the Symbiosis trait. The Unleashed auto also does massive damage. It does not need more damage. 

 

The Mechanist is the prime example of how not to make a class. Similar to the Firebrand, this class does everything and should be nerfed HARD.

yeah mech should be nerfed, but if fb is an example it prob wont happen, it has too much utility and the mec is too strong, untamed might hit hard on pvp or roaming but in pve its pretty weak, buffing pets would make untamed better without making it broken, because pets right now are very very weak

 

[Zaret.1450]

also in pvp there are classes that work much better than untamed too, its not broken in pvp, in wvw sb is a bit better i think and in pve its simply the worst elite or at least one of the worst dps wise, its like a sb but worse there

[anduriell.6280]

2 hours ago, Khenzy.9348 said:

Noone is advocating for buffs to Untamed's PvP performance here. It's also nowhere near as effective as you claim it is and even less so for the effort it takes (and even LESS so after the Tailswipe nerfs). We want mechanical changes.

The spec has issues in regards to ease of play, it's needlessly spammy and high maintenance low reward nature, or the inexistance of a supposed PvP gameplay that revolves around pusnishing CC players but just doens't work due to stunbreaks and CC skills themselves doing negligible damage, so noone uses hammer and therefore the spec in not really being played as originally intended (and we know this due to the Discord leaks). 

Also, they do low DPS in PvE.

There's a reason Untamed's feedback has been overwhelmingly negative.

Seriously I don't know what the designer was thinking.  This one didn't even play the gamemode in general because to not know CC's do 0 damage in PVP has no excuse at this point. 

Also ranger players never asked for another PvP elite, we have been insisting in a WvW elite which we can use in zergs. But well after the later discoveries i am not asking myself what the dev was thinking. Such a disaster of a company. 

[Zyreva.1078]

20 hours ago, Kaenaydar.5631 said:

The auto cast QOL will help a lot there is times in fractals, raids, and strikes i just dont have time to order pets to do stuff they should do on their own like on core.

It won't change much because the difference between letting the pet simply autoattack and using it's additional skills is minor at best. In fact, since Iboga with its scaling autoattack should be the best dps pet in situations with a lot of condis on the boss (so pretty much in all grp content), using the pet skills might even be a dmg loss.

[RainbowTurtle.3542]

On 6/26/2022 at 2:19 PM, Tazer.2157 said:

Untamed does massive damage already. It gets 25 % extra damage with the "Vow of the Untamed" Trait and another 15 % extra damage with the Symbiosis trait. The Unleashed auto also does massive damage. It does not need more damage. 

 

The Mechanist is the prime example of how not to make a class. Similar to the Firebrand, this class does everything and should be nerfed HARD.

Untamed damage is 33k- more than soulbeast currently (1 day before patch, to be fair) but it also has none of the burst.

 

Untamed needs more damage or more utility. It doesn't have enough of either, and it's going to suffer for it even with alactamed being a thing.

 

It also needs to rival Mechanist for a pet oriented elite spec in one way or another, as it doesn't do better in any way, which is really bad for the core pet class. If mechanist is damage, Untamed could use more support (but still offensive support) capabilities. If mechanist is meant to be a support, give untamed better damage capabilities relative to mechanist.

[Zaret.1450]

On 6/26/2022 at 8:19 PM, Tazer.2157 said:

Untamed does massive damage already. It gets 25 % extra damage with the "Vow of the Untamed" Trait and another 15 % extra damage with the Symbiosis trait. The Unleashed auto also does massive damage. It does not need more damage. 

 

The Mechanist is the prime example of how not to make a class. Similar to the Firebrand, this class does everything and should be nerfed HARD.

massive dmg... in pvp maybe because in pve its the worst dps  by far, also its a pet oriented elite of the ranger and the pet is even less usefull than the soulbeast one, as for nerfing mech, seriously? since when has anet nerfed one of their favorite elites, just look at the patch notes