Leonidrex.5649 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 5 hours ago, NotFound.7813 said: Well it loses half sustain of the added sustain amulet adds to the build, true. Wich is not directly halfs its sustain (supports would be useless that way), its way an exageration. Anyways the main point remains true. EoD included power crew classes and the ultimately new buffs to classes like chrono, reaper or spb/slb make your statement of "nerfed dps" untrue. Supports are far away from being a tank wich can solely hold a point vs three guys without hesitation. Ofc supports give value to team fights and are hard to kill when it comes to kiting/peeling but thats the opposite of "freely tanking dmg". Also as i said before just play three nodes as supps are way weaker, its a l2p issue taking big team fights if you dont have supp in your team. big fight against support = l2p issue, got it. funny coming from someone mentioning " buffs " to chrono/spb/slb/reaper as if any of these classes is strong. if you die to chrono as a support thats a l2p issue, or spb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotFound.7813 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Leonidrex.5649 said: big fight against support = l2p issue, got it. funny coming from someone mentioning " buffs " to chrono/spb/slb/reaper as if any of these classes is strong. if you die to chrono as a support thats a l2p issue, or spb Pro actively taking fights vs a supports when you have none is entirely a l2p issue, for sure. Maybe you didnt notice but you can actually disengage mid and split the map. Even if you wipe first team fight, if you decide to keep taking big fights its entirely your fault to not undertand how pvp works. Chrono is maybe not meta since vindi is out there but definitely a decent choice even more at ranked since distortion buff. If you as a power chrono dedice to push a 3v3 at mid w no supp instead of plusing far and die, when theres no supp ofc its your fault. If you push far and your two team mates decide to aggro mid and insta die 2vs3 instead of playing defensive to buy you time by looking at your rotation in the minimap its a l2p issue. And if theres no one to push far so you can plus then its your team mates fault to not split the map therefore another l2p issue. Tbh, on chrono you can play sidenode misha well build and split the map by yourself. Tips for leaving gold3. Imagine rotating Edited October 19, 2022 by NotFound.7813 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Vindi is pretty much trash after today. Anyone who complains about vindi being too strong automatically get labelled as bad by me now. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, NotFound.7813 said: Pro actively taking fights vs a supports when you have none is entirely a l2p issue, for sure. Maybe you didnt notice but you can actually disengage mid and split the map. Even if you wipe first team fight, if you decide to keep taking big fights its entirely your fault to not undertand how pvp works. Chrono is maybe not meta since vindi is out there but definitely a decent choice even more at ranked since distortion buff. If you as a power chrono dedice to push a 3v3 at mid w no supp instead of plusing far and die, when theres no supp ofc its your fault. If you push far and your two team mates decide to aggro mid and insta die 2vs3 instead of playing defensive to buy you time by looking at your rotation in the minimap its a l2p issue. And if theres no one to push far so you can plus then its your team mates fault to not split the map therefore another l2p issue. Tbh, on chrono you can play sidenode misha well build and split the map by yourself. Tips for leaving gold3. Imagine rotating Imagine being also able to rotate as support, crazy. In fact, good supports dont follow their teammates, but enemy dps and make them useless entire game. But you wouldnt know that you think chrono is strong 😄 Also the fact that any 3v3 without support vs support is unwinnable and you think its fine is hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotFound.7813 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Leonidrex.5649 said: Imagine being also able to rotate as support, crazy. In fact, good supports dont follow their teammates, but enemy dps and make them useless entire game. But you wouldnt know that you think chrono is strong 😄 Also the fact that any 3v3 without support vs support is unwinnable and you think its fine is hilarious. First of all support doesnt win 2vs2 by default anymore, moreover there is a lot of bad 2v2 you can force a tempest to stay at. Even theorically best duo nec/supp its not longer the king of 2vs2. Harb/vindi, vindi/specter, harb/specter, vindi/bladesworn were pretty much better than any combination w a support you could think at. Directly when it comes to metagame support was by now out of meta. Almost nobody played supp last mat and we will see if its played this one. Now when you say, "following enemy " you dont take in consideration who ever started the rotation has the technical upper hand, even more when you can actually hide your rotation or simply not commiting to mid on first place. Not like r55 have been winning entirely by this play style. No, it would as simply as follow sindrener around the map. Kekw. And moreover when you split the map you can stuck their supp in bad fights, like leaving a nec/supp vs a sidenoder wich can simply disengage and push a winning matchup vs the nec. You kinda have an advantage at ranked w supp since ppl doenst even know basics of how pvp works. Even less now wheb population is so low. And its not me who says chrono is fine, since i dont play mes at all. Its RIP statement wich pretty much plays at legend/p3 w it. Edited October 19, 2022 by NotFound.7813 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotFound.7813 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 2:34 PM, Leonidrex.5649 said: Imagine being also able to rotate as support, crazy. In fact, good supports dont follow their teammates, but enemy dps and make them useless entire game. But you wouldnt know that you think chrono is strong 😄 Also the fact that any 3v3 without support vs support is unwinnable and you think its fine is hilarious. Chrono not strong but a team w two chronos (one glass shatter other sidenoder) made to EU monthly finals. 😂😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 hours ago, NotFound.7813 said: Chrono not strong but a team w two chronos (one glass shatter other sidenoder) made to EU monthly finals. 😂😂😂😂 wow someone used a chrono in the past 1 year and didnt instantly lose. chrono so strong man 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotFound.7813 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Leonidrex.5649 said: wow someone used a chrono in the past 1 year and didnt instantly lose. chrono so strong man Oh yes. The fact a team w two chronos beated every single tryhard team w meta comps even r55 w sind and boyce doesnt make chrono any close to a good class. https://metabattle.com/wiki/PvP_Builds Even metabattle has added both builds as meta/great. Youre just giga coping at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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