Arken.3725 Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Spvp perspective: Guardian has and always only ever been good at support for lengthy periods of time. Core = Support only DH = Meme only and now dead without trapper runes. Was never taken seriously even with said runes. FB = Support only WB = Just plain gone. Was only decent for 3 months maybe? All of this stemmed from terrible weapons, subpar skills(weapons, utilities, healing and elites), slow, low health. Specifics aren't necessary because it doesn't change much. I can't imagine any other profession with worse....pretty much everything such as: - Terribly tracking skills(scepter auto, GS leap, Staff auto, torch throw, ect) - Little-to-no soft cc -Little-to-no actual speed(superspeed, resistance access to help with soft cc) - Symbols being useless and part of every...single.....weapon.... You're effectively giving every weapon only 4 skills since these are only good on a downed body. 4 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan.1704 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) I agree with everything you said. Especially weapon tracking. Guardian's weapon tracking is hands down the absolute worse in the game. The only way to guarantee that Sword#3 hits, is by wasting a utility like Judges Intervention along side it so that you're literally cheek-to-cheek with the target. If they strafe once, you lose 90% of your damage lol... The only reason Sword is even relevant is because #2 is a port. This alone makes me feel like mainhand Pistol will replace Sword immediately on launch. Especially if mainhand Pistol has 2 ports or if Pistol's pew-pew burst lands more consistently compared to Sword#3. (I assume it will have some form of flashy-burst on the weapon alongside some kind of port). There's two sides for Willbender in PvP. The Willbenders that are able to 1-shot everyone up until they plateau in G3/Plat1, and the Competitive AT side where literally any-other class is a better 5th pick over Willbender. Teams may choose a WB because there doesn't seem to be a better player to fill that specific slot but the meta is very unforgiving if you're trying to be competitive. I've been around long enough to know where my place is, even if my head is the size of Mt. Fuji after a few beers worth of gaming lol. Edited September 19, 2023 by Saiyan.1704 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arken.3725 Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 Dude, what are the common themes amongst solid roamer's? Mobility(in the form of not just swiftness, super speed, trackable weaponry, quickness, ect.) Soft-CC: Decent access to ways to stick to someone(Cripple, chill and the like) Massive spike dmg: WB takes a few seconds to actually do dmg, look at other roamers who do it in half the time(Chronomancer, Thief, Rev, and Nade Scrapper) These are just a few problems, there's far more. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arken.3725 Posted September 22, 2023 Author Share Posted September 22, 2023 The old Vanguard Tactics Trait was an amazing tool to give WB's mobility. It gave Resistance on port which REALLY helped sticking to people to do damage, especially when you have no soft-cc, superspeed or quickness to make up for it. Not saying it would completely fix the slowness but it would help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova Starr.2069 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) Surprised no one step by to say they got their kitten handed in a plate by a wb in wvw Edited September 28, 2023 by Supernova Starr.2069 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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