Do Firebrand Tomes timeout?

I swear that sometimes I activate a tome for a fight I know is upcoming (e.g., escort quests), yet maybe 30-40 sec later when the fight occurs, I realize that my tome is no longer active, as if it had expired somehow and I see the tome cooldown timer is counting down.

Is there some automatic expiration timer on active tomes due to inactivity or something like that?

I don't see it documented in the wiki, but it sure seems to happen.

@TheAgedGnome.7520 said:I swear that sometimes I activate a tome for a fight I know is upcoming (e.g., escort quests), yet maybe 30-40 sec later when the fight occurs, I realize that my tome is no longer active, as if it had expired somehow and I see the tome cooldown timer is counting down.

Is there some automatic expiration timer on active tomes due to inactivity or something like that?

I don't see it documented in the wiki, but it sure seems to happen.

Were you not using skills while the tome is active? Or did you use all of the pages for that tome?

@Hoodie.1045 said:

Were you not using skills while the tome is active? Or did you use all of the pages for that tome?

NOT using the skills.

I.e., I activate the tome, use none of the tome pages while waiting for an upcoming fight, and then notice 30-40 sec later that the tome is no longer active.

I just can't figure what is causing the tome to go off of active.

If you're in a sub-level 80 zone, you automatically stow your tomes whenever your effective (downscaled) level changes. Additionally, if this happens without the Loremaster grandmaster trait equipped, you will lose the passive effects of your tomes. You'll only get the passives back when you activate one of your tomes, after mounting and dismounting, or equipping the Loremaster trait and having your effective level changed again.

If you do have Loremaster equipped, then your tome passives are removed and immediately reapplied. In both cases, you automatically stow your tome and there's no way that this isn't a bug.

A few other elite specs have issues too with effective level changes, most notably Scourges getting all of their sand shades desummoned.

@PurebladeProductions.4875 said:If you're in a sub-level 80 zone, you automatically stow your tomes whenever your effective (downscaled) level changes. Additionally, if this happens without the Loremaster grandmaster trait equipped, you will lose the passive effects of your tomes. You'll only get the passives back when you activate one of your tomes, after mounting and dismounting, or equipping the Loremaster trait and having your effective level changed again.

If you do have Loremaster equipped, then your tome passives are removed and immediately reapplied. In both cases, you automatically stow your tome and there's no way that this isn't a bug.

A few other elite specs have issues too with effective level changes, most notably Scourges getting all of their sand shades desummoned.

This has happened in lvl 80 POF zones, so I don't downscaling is the culprit.

@TheAgedGnome.7520 said:

@PurebladeProductions.4875 said:If you're in a sub-level 80 zone, you automatically stow your tomes whenever your effective (downscaled) level changes. Additionally, if this happens without the Loremaster grandmaster trait equipped, you will lose the passive effects of your tomes. You'll only get the passives back when you activate one of your tomes, after mounting and dismounting, or equipping the Loremaster trait and having your effective level changed again.

If you do have Loremaster equipped, then your tome passives are removed and immediately reapplied. In both cases, you automatically stow your tome and there's no way that this isn't a bug.

A few other elite specs have issues too with effective level changes, most notably Scourges getting all of their sand shades desummoned.

Maybe its when the passive of the virtue is refilled. Ehat exact were you using?

Are you sure this isn't due to weapon stowing? If its 30-45s of you doing nothing your weapons auto-stow. I don't think active skill bars remain if you stow your weapons.

@Indure.5410 said:Are you sure this isn't due to weapon stowing? If its 30-45s of you doing nothing your weapons auto-stow. I don't think active skill bars remain if you stow your weapons.

Ahhhh...if auto-stowing weapons resets tomes, then that is probably the answer! I'll try that out tonite and report back.

@TheAgedGnome.7520 said:

@"Indure.5410" said:Are you sure this isn't due to weapon stowing? If its 30-45s of you doing nothing your weapons auto-stow. I don't think active skill bars remain if you stow your weapons.

No this isn't it. Not even manually stowing weapons will cause your tomes to stow. There is no "timeout" from what I've seen.Stowing your current tome, opening another tome, or swapping weapons will cause this. You may be doing one of these without realizing it.Otherwise, mounting will stow your tomes.

Well, of course I haven't been able to replicate the issue since posting about it. That surely means it must have been due to a deep Anet conspiracy, and now all traces of it have been wiped away. Yea...that must be it - it couldn't have been an error on my part. :)