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I really hope they add 2v2 3v3 modes permanently , i really enjoy them in the off-seasons

Exactly. As i said hunter were considered very hard back in vanilla, when you could not place your traps while in combat, you had to hardcast aimed shot and also controll your pet, but now hunter specially bm is one of the easiest if not the easiest class to play in both pve and pvp. As aways very well said and explained point Kuma.

I agree with you on that.

I understand completely what you mean, i wouldnt say there is no skill because if you compare a plat 2 to gold 2 player the difference is big, but there is a bit too much aoe spam.

No no no, its S+++++ tier, just it is sooooooooo unbelievably hard to play ranger that noone can play it well enough, thats why you feel its b tier, as you said you never seen a good ranger so far, it is just too hard

Check again to who people are laughing

Sure mate you know best... No matter that even 1 person didnt agreed with you, i am the one talking nosense(600 years history of the subject 😄)... Keep living in your dreamworld Looks like you become very agreeaive when you are wrong and dont want to acknowledge it , typical child.

i think you should change our profession from a musician to a clown it suits you very well. keep on embarrassing you self mate. you were pretty confident that BM hunter is not a thing too, how that turned out? .... kids...

Haha so you ran out of smart words to defend your self and started attacking my english like a 2 year old mad kid... That speak for your self more than enought. You embarrassed your self enought mate.

when exactly did i specified fire weaver? ... man you are making fool of your self. also i never claimed weaver is hard, i claimed its harder than ranger and that top players claim that weaver has the hardest skill rotation ... maybe learn to read what dump stuff i said, please quite it

you re the one trying to change the reality mate, thats why everybody disagree with you, but you still fail to see it.

yep everybody figured out that you have no idea what you are talking about. I am not angry at anything i am a engineer for me either you have proof of what you are saying and you can back up your claims or you dont have idea what you are talking about. So far you didnt provided anything which back ups your claim except your feelings, which leads me to conclusion that you just dont know what you are talking about, simple as that.

okay so you cannot back up your claim, everybody disagree with you, but who cares 😄 you made my day mate i am up for duels

it is sarcasm if you didnt managed to see it. And no they are not. Dont you find it strange that not a single person so far agreed with your statement of ranger being "insanely hard" to learn? I am staring to think that you are actually trolling.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-easier-to-learn-the-guitar-or-the-cello looks like even other musicians dont agree with your statement.

I think you are strongly over exaggerating here and i find it very hard to believe on that statement. I am wondering if weaver is that easy as you claim , why some of the top players consider it having the most complex and hard skills rotations?

And you think there are noo good ones in your region? So you are saying cello is easier pick up and learn to play than guitar? I guess violin is also easier than guitar?

This comment makes me think that you didnt played weaver much. Am i right?

When i say easy to pick up i mean easy to start playing the class, understands its mechanincs fast and play it at decent level. So ranger is a new player friendly class with which a new player can learn fast and perform on decent level. Weaver takes more time to learn its mechanics and more time to practise it combos, as weaver you dont have instant access to all of your abilities and you have to weave to the proper attunement in order to get the ability you need, which means that in order to perform well enought with weaver you need to have very good awareness of your oponent and what you would need next, atuning to wrong atuments can cost you your life. The music example was not very relevant in my opinion, because cello is much harder to play than guitar on a decent level it takes more time to learn to play cello than guitar as far as i know. If you want to be a good player you have a lot things to learn like kiting, positioning , rotations, compositions , maps, what other classes can do and what to expect from them, but this all stuff are not relevant to the class so they are not specific for rangers but to the player. I am wondering why do you ensist on that ranger being very hard?

The average Q time says 2 minutes , so i guess you are high rating to wait that long for a match. Its really sad that you have to wait so long for a match.

For survival i can agree but for MM no, in my opinion MM is like in the middle of the pack, not very hard but also not easy as BM, so my point is hunter is not that hard as you think it is. Did you played hunter recently? Anyway i dont think this is the topic of this thread. On the topic i think @Kuma.1503 is right and ranger is easy to pick up for both pve and pvp

Well you just did 🙂 many people recommend BM for new player because it easiest spec and it performs very well in pve and can be decent in pvp When you write easiest spec in wow in youtube you will se BM together with frost dk and dh. As i said hunter was much harder in classic when traps couldnt be used in combat and back then it was one of the hardest classes if not the hardest together with shaman.

Well i cannot agree with that. I played WoW since 2004 and hunter was considered hard during classic. At the moment its one of the easiest classes to play specially in pve, and BM is easier than frost Dk. Frost dk is the second easiest spec to play. The only hard think in pvp for hunter is positioning. But in SW they even gave the ability to shoot through walls ..... One of the most disliked abilities together with convoce

No i am not talking about tbc, and yes BM is not meta , that does not mean you cannot achieve high rating with it (2400+). MM hunter is not that much harder either, hunter in general is not a hard class. It was hard back in classic when you could not use traps in combat.

I also wish they add 2v2 and 3v3 permanently.