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The patch note previews yet again completely fail to understand the problems surrounding the ranger class. There is still going to be zero reasons to bring a ranger into group play unless you're roleplaying and need a forest boy. Enjoy side nodeing in PvP on Soulbeast and Untamed for another 7 years, even though you're going to be outclassed by other classes that offer everything and more than you. Enjoy being a subpar firebrand in WvW on Druid, and laughed out of any serious GvG content for bringing any ranger build. Enjoy bringing your snooze fest garbage tier reworked spirits to PvE content to fill a niche role that is only sought after by mediocre players. Ranger is still Depression Keep playing it and find out You'll eventually agree

Can't wait to leave negative reviews on steam for the balance team. Ranger is Depression.

Ranger Spirits: Fixed a bug that caused spirit boons to be granted in a circle around the ranger instead of the spirit. lol

I actually never even understood why they made that change. Like you said... so Rangers cant use Rune of the Trooper? That could be the only feasible reason they changed our shouts to commands. Just feels like a sloppily half-baked idea that just ended up being a nerf in the end. Funny really, because Rune of the Trooper was really bad for Ranger and hardly offered enough cleansing to warrant even using it. But offering more build variety seems to be the opposite direction Anet's design philosophy is headed. Ranger being limited to relying on Wilderness Survival for reliable cleansing = Depression

Exactly. From a PvP perspective, I wonder how the post HoT Bunker Druid would fare in today's meta? It would not even be meta! Yet the nerf remains when they have made things like Firebrand, Scourge, Tempest and Mechanist which are even more oppressive than bunker druid ever was. Every nerf to ranger shares the same similarity: Nerf it, leave it in a gutted state, power creep new elites of NON RANGER CLASSES that are doing the exact oppressive things that they deemed worthy of nerfing in the first place. Soulbeast can't swap pets. Druid has negative pet stats. Druid's seed of life remains GUTTED and useless since 2016. Core Ranger has 2 300 second c/d traits. Spirits are useless. Can't throw traps 3 USELESS ELITE SPEC WEAPONS I'm sure there's more nerfs but these are just a few that come to mind that don't even make sense in the current power crept state of the game. RANGER IS DEPRESSION

Recent changes mean nothing. There are still zero reasons to bring ranger into group play. WvW Zergs laugh at the thought of bringing along a Ranger. It's literally a meme. PvP side node duelist for eternity with almost no team synergy. Druid remains gutted while Mechanist exists. PvE - Check all the challenge mode comps and tell me how sought after druid heals or ranger spirits are. (hint: they aren't) Ranger is still Depression.

While this would probably be effective, I worry this would further stagnate this game mode by limiting the amount of new player interest... and thus player retention. With a Steam release in the near future, it is entirely possible to see a flood of new (F2P) PvPers. Addressing the elephant in the room though... Arena Net can just do their job and moderate their game.

Do you honestly think the spirits with 10 HP that give you 1 boon for 2 seconds every 3 seconds is an upside? I don't even think these will see use in PvE.

You literally made an entire thread yesterday advocating for a post to be deleted because you disagreed with the content within. I guess you only care about the censorship when it's effecting opinions that are pro GW2. I hope you realize that the criticism is completely warranted in this situation. The developers that are involved should absolutely understand how poor of a job they have done; that is the only way to achieve a better outcome. Stop trying to create an echo chamber of positive reinforcement. Try and remember that you are the customer here. Do not forget that these developers are getting paid to deliver a game for which many of us have spent money supporting.

Lots of people responding to defend the class like a white knight. I'm not attacking your favorite toy, I'm advocating for changes that will bring ranger more in line with other classes so that it has a place within group play. That's it. To argue that ranger is fine is literally shooting yourself in the foot. There's absolutely a reason why this class is underrepresented in group play and your opinion won't change those statistics. Either way, pretty much burnt out on waiting for decent changes. There's less frustrating games with less incompetent developers to be playing right now. I'm pretty sure these recent patch note previews gave me can cer anyways.

And yet even in PvP it's not fun to play. Whoever designed it clearly didn't play it.

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Is this an out of season April Fools joke?

Just so we're clear, I'm speaking of raids, fractals, strikes, not open-world PvE. Soulbeast's shared stances are the ONLY reason it has ANY viability in challenging group PvE content. Stances remain a unique party buff that has no replacement, but the core of the spec design offers, in reality, nothing that a meta class wont do better. Druid Healing is outclassed by Firebrand in ANY PvE scenario. Druid Support is outclassed by Firebrand AND Chronomancer. Unless you just *enjoy* Druid, there are still zero reasons to choose it over other classes, which is still my point. While soulbeast has good burst, there are easier ways to achieve the same damage and still offer more utility with other classes. Can ranger have some niche viability? Sure. But again, you'd be hard pressed to find a logical reason to choose a ranger over better choices. Nothing wrong with playing off meta, and doesn't mean you can't be successful in doing so. It also shouldn't be understated that almost any build you play in GW2 can work for PvE as long as you can dodge red circles. Ranger lacks an identity in group play, and adding alac to spirits just feels like a band-aid fix. The game evolved while ranger was left in vanilla state.

This upcoming patch is literally a make or break for me. We will see if the intern dev. working on Ranger has been reading the years worth of feedback for this abandoned class. Current state of Ranger literally gives me depression to play it. And Untamed might have some decent applications in PvP but just doesn't feel fun to play. PvP - Often feels more frustrating than rewarding. To much rock, paper, scissors issues with this game that make player skill irrelevant. Being beaten by the game and not the player feels awful. PvE - Zero reasons to use a Ranger over the Flavor of the Decade classes outside of subpar druid healing. WvW - Zero reasons to bring a Ranger to your zerg outside of Flavor of the Decade classes. Somehow I doubt the above issues will be resolved, but maybe I'm just cynical from the complete lack of developer transparency and communication over the years. And lets be real, this new "communication" from Arena Net, while is nice for PR reasons, just sounds like all talk and no action (***WvW Alliances When?***) The problem for me isn't just with my favorite class but even the game. GW2 has always felt like a game full of ideas on the cusp of greatness but everything is just left right there. Complete and utter untapped potential, which just adds to the depressing feeling of playing this game and playing Ranger.

I just want to be clear, tail swipe was absolutely out of line and the nerf was warranted. My issue is that with each balance patch, the notes for ranger seem so disconnected from what the ranger community has been asking for for years. Is nerfing tail swipe a good thing? Sure. But that's it? That's all? I've waited literal years for positive changes to come to this class and to see miniscule things like - "Fixed a bug that was causing [insert pet name] to overperform" ... is just an absolute slap in the face. The patch notes for far to long have been so ignorant of the glaring issues with this class and the lack of identity it holds in the meta of ALL. GAME. MODES.

Every time there is a balance patch released I get quite excited to see if anything relevant has been done to improve the state of Ranger/Druid/Soulbeast/Untamed. And each time, scrolling through the walls of text for each other profession, I am left in utter disbelief. There is always one sentence, fixing something irrelevant to the overall problems with each Ranger specialization. I almost get the feeling that not a single person working at Anet works on this class and it's been entirely abandoned and put into a state of maintenance mode... tweaking irrelevant skills a few decimal points every couple of months to give the illusion that they aren't just completely ignoring this class. Guess I thought I'd come to complain here, maybe others feel the same way? Regardless, just seems like nothing is going to change and any feedback is regularly ignored here so probably zero reasons for me to even write this.

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Cant agree more with this post. Untamed just feels awful to play. Massive rework needed. Druid has needed a rework for years now, and is completely disregarded. Ranger severely lacks an identity in group content and there seems to be zero urgency to change that fact.

Here's one that I've quite enjoyed throughout the years: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?POABcix/lFw8YfMM2JeMTlt+SEfaA-zRJYkRPPA-e Stat wise Trailblaizer is probably your best bet, but the sword torch/ axe dagger combo can work well with Rabid and even Celestial stats. If you're keen on using shortbow, you would swap out the sword and torch for it and then also swap out Nature Magic for skirmishing. Like this example here: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?POwAciVlFw8YfMM2JWaPmt+SEfaA-zRJYkRHPA-e Though with shortbow I think Rabid works better, due to the synergy with sharpened edges and precision. Hope that helps ^^

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I'm having the same issue. I've also put in a ticket and received a response. Apparently nothing can be done at this time. The GM's have instructed me to use the in-game bug report function though.

If you really think Rangers need a nerf you are simply having a L2P issue and you're bad at the game. Though, you're so delusional that you will never accept that it's a problem within yourself and not with the class. Gazelle can be toned down, certainly, but in doing so Ranger will become even more of a meme than it already is in Ranked.