While i get the whole stealth hate, i also appreciate that we have such a mechanic. It adds so much diversity to the already adaptive gameplay one can have using and facing it. Over the years, from my observation. It's the same in most cases, deer in headlights once they know a stealther is there. It saddens me that those of us who choose to outright kill said stealther or die trying, i'm happy regardless of the result. Some people just don't like to change the way they play and adapt to the given situation. Now you can dice it six ways to sunday but the fact remains we have to adapt in some way or continue dying. Take this from someone who has a number of disabilities hindering ones gameplay. Thanks to a few people, likes of Henrik, Supcutie, Gaile Grey, my lovely wife Character Slot "who has more necros than a bull can turd out" and others who have helped me along the way in some way, shape or form, I've adapted, grown & come a long way in many ways in all game modes. When i started WvW couldn't kill a paper bag, now, i can solo roam/group play comfortably and confidently on multiple classes with multiple different builds....that i adapt with on the fly during play. Despite this, always room for improvement. Adapt, learn & then play the way you want. There are many ways to dice a cake & eat it. Risk it all whole or take your time & slice it into manageable slices. Chew your food peoples. PS: It helps to dodge, really, it does. :) ~J