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3 hours ago, Sobx.1758 said:

It has all to do with your attempted argumentation about "them being essencially dead", because they clearly are not. You want to easly -and fast- spam every possible/available achievement but at the same time you don't really want to do them. You don't want it to be seen as a "I want more rewards faster" request (but it's still clear that's exactly what it is), so you try falling back on the "weeeelllll, if I don't like those achievements because I can't quickly complete them in one sweep, it means nobody does them!". Well, that's false.

I didn't say "I did it this way so you have to do it that way as well", not sure what you're talking about here, but like with the previous posts, you're dodging what you're quoting and try pivoting into new made up claims. Nothing said here is in any way gatekeeping anything. If you don't have time to play the game, don't play the game. If you have time to do just part of the content any given day, the solution is for you to do just part of the content any given day. Even moreso when you try claiming "it's not about rewards, but just about something to do". If you don't have time, you don't need "something to do", because you're already busy.

The other day I didn’t have time to play games because I had to work late. I missed out on a whole daily trib run. I demand ANet remove all of the maps from SAB and just inject the rewards each day whether you log in or not.

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45 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

😄 Well, in that case, a shortcut would benefit you. 😉 

As someone who did a 96-levels Tribulation Mode run for both infusions a couple of years ago, I think I qualify as a SAB hardcore nutball. 😁 And I am telling you: SAB fans do not want to see anything cut from SAB. Sorry.

Also got the infusions and can confirm, no need to cut SAB, it’s short enough as it is.

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3 hours ago, andreiblue.8231 said:

Even with the shortcut it takes me longer than w1z3 in tribulation mode

It takes me 24 minutes to finish world 1 on trib mode including returning to convert baubles into bubbles, and that is slooooow compared to speed runs. Of course trib runs are fast, you optimize your route as much as possible and necessarily practice it until it’s pixel perfect.

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18 hours ago, Biziut.3594 said:

Now I can be toxic without using a single word. Cool.

As for the serious answer, there are a ton of thief repellant builds out there, You can eighter pick them up or git gud. Just becouse You are not good in PvP doesn't mean core mechanic of the professions should be erased thus destroying the class.

Your chioce, but please continiue with the temper tantrum. I can use a good laugh.

Edit: When I see someone somewhere using word "Toxic" or "Gatekeep", while describing something I instantly feel the urge to downvote it. Cuz I instantly know it will be something so silly or insane. Do You guys have this habit as well? Like this two words are so overused and their meaning so twisted at this point... xd

... might be GW2 Forums PTSD xdddd

‘Toxic’ especially annoys me, and without straying too far into [redacted] topic, yeah, I also find it convenient to auto-dismiss prose that contains that word and others, like ‘gatekeeping’ as being deliberately inflammatory. It’s especially prevalent on sites that begin with the letter R, where intelligent discourse is preferentially replaced by meme wars, where users string together memes made up of buzzwords that pass as replies. The more effective the meme usage, the more karma is gained. It’s an odd game that passes as actual conversation when it really isn’t. And heaven forbid you go against it!

With that said, this is an obvious troll post, so I think we can all just have a giggle and move along.

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1 hour ago, TexZero.7910 said:

That's certainly a solution.

It's based on a very misconstured understanding that dodge jumping is a bug. It's not. It's also allowed to be macro'd so it can be done with 100% trigger rate. /shrug.

It's the most effective way of doing that section.

It’s not expected behaviour at all, it’s unintended and certainly not 100% reproducible even with a macro. I have it fail maybe once in every five or six attempts.

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24 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

You obviously want everything removed that makes SAB so much fun. Congrats on not getting what SAB is about. 👎

Please stop playing SAB instead of asking to have it reduced to a mere shadow of itself, namely a boring walk-straight-through jumping puzzle.

I almost executed a no death run of w1z3 yesterday (my usual path requires one death to respawn at the top of the forest for the final section before the boss). I have found a wall that allows double jumping to skip some of the spikes on the lower level. This is why I love SAB - It’s made to be experimented with and glitched. It should never change!

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22 hours ago, andreiblue.8231 said:

At least add some portals to skip those instead of removing them for the normal mode then, w2 in normal mode only gives you 2 bauble bubbles at the end of a zone just like w1, but the zones are much longer because they are filled with filler. It takes me less time to do w1 in tribulation mode daily than w2 in normal mode and that's a problem imo.

You can skip almost all of zone 2 with the shortcut eagle…

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OP, with your use of cultural warfare words I can only assume this entire thread has been a troll. Well done, I think you got most of us - I award you 8/10. You’d get 10/10 but you never actually made me laugh.

[World 1 Zone 2 ooze herding]

6 is the ‘max’, but I believe 5 is all you can actually get.

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7 hours ago, Linken.6345 said:

aint it better to be a small bee then?

I find their movement to be too imprecise, specifically the vertical motion makes it hard to judge how many times you need to hit raise/lower altitude to be at the right height to hit a coin/cloud.

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You don’t have to do the pillar skipping, it makes even me angry and I’ve done all the trib modes on repeat to get both infusions. Those pillars are super finicky, and the trampolines? God kitten, the number of times I have them NOT activate… RREe!! 
 

So what you can do, is where the dart maze is (the bit with lethal darts everywhere and blocks you have to push) head right instead of entering the building. Follow the happy signs and across a couple of cloud jumps to an area that skips straight to the final section.

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21 minutes ago, Farohna.6247 said:

Lol little buggers.  I did it just for the annual because apparently my fingers just won't go fast enough to run it.  That's great that you beat them!!  Ahh the satisfaction 😀 

If you can handle it in bee mode I’d say your fingers probably work better than you think, I always get stuck on stuff as a bee, or go sailing over/under geometry. What makes that particular race difficult in my opinion is the lack of single player mode. You have to contend with other players who block your sight with their furry bums or jump in the wrong direction and you instinctively follow them.

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23 hours ago, Farohna.6247 said:

Correct, I found this out as well.  Need to do the race for doing it as a bee.   It will get you the under 5 minute annual achievement. 

I have seen a few cheeky cheatersons try that with the race, sitting at the start all smug in bee mode ready to beat all us plebs on foot. It does give me gratification when I am still faster than they are with my pixel perfect this and dodge-jump that 😉

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2 hours ago, Malus.2184 said:

There are two choices, either you've never done the achievements or the answer is a "WhAt AcHiEvEmEnTs?"

Bauble Collector requires you to track the entirety of the zone. Lockpicking Daily requires you to traverse the zone. The race requires you to traverse the zone.

Between the last checkpoint before the pillars and the boss there's one achievement since the glitch is there.

Even for a single achievement, save the glitch, you need to set off a good amount of time, and the realistic analysis is that for the vast majority of people this bites heavily into the allotted time for the game.

A later poster makes fun of me by using the thought-terminating cliche that I just want to make the fun follow my idea of fun.

You have to understand, that anyone who posts on the forums of any game is often the vast and incredibly vocal minority.

Here's the deal, remove the sections of World 2 that are just filler. Then add a classic mode for those who want to do the classic way. Increase the rewards too as they spend more time there, if they use the shortcut in W2Z2 then default the rewards to normal. Everyone should be happy with that as those with little time have the option and those with a lot of time have the option as well.

It’s almost like you are refusing to see the obvious point that you are not supposed to be able to complete everything ASAP. SAB isn’t your personal achievement point farm. If you want to cut some content to shreds just so that it’s easier on your time and simpler to farm, go do it to something else.

[HOW DO I GET PAST ANGRY ROCK AT TRIBULATION Z2W1 AT THE LAVA]

You need to hop from stone 1 to 2 to 1 again to trigger the rock, then back to 2, onto the rock and across to the leaf. Don’t wait to see if the rock triggers once you hit the second stone before moving back, 1 to 2 to 1 needs to be a fluid motion or you will get knocked into the lava.

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12 hours ago, raykor.6723 said:

Is it just me, or is this pretty tough. Got real close several times but breaking that 5 min mark is not easy-especially compared to the annual timed race event in every other festival.

Yeah it’s a bit tight. You can’t fall in the water section, and getting jammed under clouds in bee mode is pretty spectacularly bad as well. The bee handles like a bus and changing altitude takes a moment to react to your key presses. It’s a bit messy tbh, I just did trib mode instead as it was more interesting anyway.

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18 hours ago, Gop.8713 said:

Whereas I was expecting a crusty old man who really missed his pac-man ; p

Nah if he was old he’d be wacky, like the doctor from Back To The Future 😉

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Guy looks exactly as I pictured him. What a superb game he and his team created!

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1 hour ago, Sobx.1758 said:

What achievements? Why do you need to do everything in one run and why do you need to do every daily (I assume that's what you mean by "achievements" here) all of the sudden? I thought it's about "something to do" and not about the rewards? There's no need to cut any content, just because you want to squeeze out every possible bubble out of it as fast as it would maybe be possible.

If this festival is such "suffering" for you then maybe just find something else "to do" in the game instead.

OP’s idea of fun is more important, thus everything must change to suit them.

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The fastest way to farm baubles is by doing tribulation runs of world 1. The first trib completion of each zone awards around 200-300 baubles. After doing all three plus the daily rewards you will quickly pile them up. You could also do world 2 trib if you are desperate, but it’s a chore and takes 3-4x as long. Once you are practiced, there’s no reason a full world 1 trib run won’t take around 25 minutes, or less if you are mental and skipping save points for a speed run.

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6 hours ago, Malus.2184 said:

You would only need to redo trib mode if you removed bits here and there. I'm talking about removing entire sections between checkpoints.

For example, in World 2 Zone 1, you could remove most of the sections between checkpoints 2 and 4 since the bridge and the raft is practically on rails on rails where it's impossible to diverge from the path anyway.

In your rather cold and clinical analysis you accidentally proposed to cut two of the most memorable sections from w2z1. The long bridge and raft might be on rails, but they are an interesting set piece. The raft in particular is very cleverly done.

You can’t just chop the zones up willy-nilly, and only w2z2 has an inappropriate length as it is both massively longer than the first zone, and somewhat longer than the second.

You shouldn’t focus on physical length (ha ha) either, but on time. There are relatively small portions of w2z2 (like the dart maze) that take a great deal of trial and error to complete. It’s these sections that need to be addressed.

[Another year of SAB, another year of asking for whats right.]

17 minutes ago, Farohna.6247 said:

If it just went away, many players honestly wouldn't miss it's garish pixelated horror.  I loathe it, some years I never set foot in it.  Did just enough to get the annual this year, and that's more than I really wanted to.  I really don't care to see them ever finish something that should never have been.  Spend resources elsewhere.  

It gets more participation than any other event. Source: People with a sense of humour.

[Another year of SAB, another year of asking for whats right.]

2 hours ago, yoni.7015 said:

No thanks. SAB is the only festival I really don’t like and the only festival I skip entirely every year. They shouldn’t waste resources on it. 

Have you no sense of enjoyment?!

[Another year of SAB, another year of asking for whats right.]

Agree 100%. GW 2 basically only exists to provide a contrast to realise the true beauty of SAB. No other game in existence has such a complete lobby from which to launch the ACTUAL game. The fact that it was all an April Fool’s joke makes it even better. Seriously, nothing quite like SAB exists in any other game. It’s a testament to the ingenuity and sense of humour of ANet’s staff. It definitely deserves to be completed … But in the free time of the developers, i.e. when they feel like it. Because once it becomes a full featured line-item on some bean counter’s spreadsheet the magic shall be gone.

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22 minutes ago, Luthan.5236 said:

I actually think it is good if they fix such obviously unintended ways to bypass the normal route. While it is okay to not ban for using those glitches/exploits (since it sitill takes a lot of time to train to be able to use them) it is more fair to keep a somewhat intended route (and fix those bypasses so it is not possible to use them) ... that still is hard to learn/train (for most players). I can imagine it would feel only more frustating for new players to hear about this: Large amount of time to be saved only by a handful of selected players that manage to do this.

And then again: Once the skin sets from tribulation mode are finished there is no reason to care anymore. Except "doing it once for the annuals and the additional bauble bubbles". Doubt anyone is playing the tribulation more often - especially when you have obtained most other stuff ... doing a normal mode rush each day gives enough bubbles to buy a lot from the weekly vendor (easiest festival for this).

I pretty much only play them in trib mode, it’s way too easy on normal and trib mode gives a huge increase in bubbles. I’ve quite a few retro skins to buy too!