3v3 Mini Season - No 3 party queue's anymore?

[Lavill.4217]

Was looking forward to the mini-season as its a way to get some guildies from WvW into PvP since they just wanna do headbanging fights instead of kiting and capping nodes with me in an abusive duo queue system. 

I for one don't really mind coming up against 3 other "competetive" or even "wintraders", I feel as though the actual PvPers who just wanna hang out with some friends are being punished not the people who join mini-seasons for their selfish reasons such as purposefully AFKing just for reward tracks and gold rewards or whatever it is. As of which the rewards to the 3v3 season are miniscule anyways and access to the top 250 only heralds 1 title so I'm not really understanding the reasoning behind this 2 party limit? 

Above is only speculation as to why this has happened - however there's been a few bugs with 3v3 such as queuing up and ending up in the Asura Arena in a 5v5 deathmatch for a couple of hours so wondering if it's just a little bug. If anyone from Anet can answer with reasoning behind it as suggested by the companies support team that would be lovely, thank you.

[gateless gate.8406]

As long as groups are only matched with groups, I have no problem with it. As it stands, playing as a group (with all the increased coordination that entails) against ungrouped players isn't fair. Modern game companies frequently fall into the trap of supporting group queuing without reckoning with the negatives that come with it for everyone NOT grouping.

 

If you want to pvp in a large coordinated group, unranked and tournaments are waiting for you.

[Eddbopkins.2630]

This is a topic I don't think the developers should stay silent on anymore. I hope they talk about this in tomorrow's stream. As well as maybe talk about 3v3 automated tournaments, the possibility of them.

Edited September 15, 2022 by Eddbopkins.2630

[Kozumi.5816]

This is really bad. If I want to play a slot machine I'll go to the casino.

[jdawgie.1835]

On 9/15/2022 at 7:38 AM, gateless gate.8406 said:

As long as groups are only matched with groups, I have no problem with it. As it stands, playing as a group (with all the increased coordination that entails) against ungrouped players isn't fair. Modern game companies frequently fall into the trap of supporting group queuing without reckoning with the negatives that come with it for everyone NOT grouping.

 

If you want to pvp in a large coordinated group, unranked and tournaments are waiting for you.

Are you kidding me with this...?

On 9/15/2022 at 7:38 AM, gateless gate.8406 said:

As it stands, playing as a group (with all the increased coordination that entails) against ungrouped players isn't fair.

Of course it isnt. That's ENTIRELY the point in a literal GROUP PVP MATCH. Playing the mode in an unintended matter will of course put you at a disadvantage.

On 9/15/2022 at 7:38 AM, gateless gate.8406 said:

Modern game companies frequently fall into the trap of supporting group queuing without reckoning with the negatives that come with it for everyone NOT grouping

No, you've fallen into a trap as have many others thinking that group content should be adjusted to accommodate players unwilling to coordinate to participate in the group content. The "negative" effects are negative as a result of the players queuing up alone in  a GROUP MODE. This is entirely the decision of the player. 

On 9/15/2022 at 7:38 AM, gateless gate.8406 said:

If you want to pvp in a large coordinated group, unranked and tournaments are waiting for you.

Hilarious. First of all pvp in 3v3 is not "large coordinated group content" frankly 5v5 is not either. Anyone who wants to que alone has the entire rest of the game outside of pvp to play in. Player vs Player is not be done solo. Its an oxymoron. As is this opinion floating around the forums. Good day sir. 

Edited September 16, 2022 by jdawgie.1835

[jdawgie.1835]

4 hours ago, Kozumi.5816 said:

This is really bad. If I want to play a slot machine I'll go to the casino.

Exactly.

[gateless gate.8406]

3 hours ago, jdawgie.1835 said:

Are you kidding me with this...?

Of course it isnt. That's ENTIRELY the point in a literal GROUP PVP MATCH. Playing the mode in an unintended matter will of course put you at a disadvantage.

No, you've fallen into a trap as have many others thinking that group content should be adjusted to accommodate players unwilling to coordinate to participate in the group content. The "negative" effects are negative as a result of the players queuing up alone in  a GROUP MODE. This is entirely the decision of the player. 

Hilarious. First of all pvp in 3v3 is not "large coordinated group content" frankly 5v5 is not either. Anyone who wants to que alone has the entire rest of the game outside of pvp to play in. Player vs Player is not be done solo. Its an oxymoron. As is this opinion floating around the forums. Good day sir. 

This screed is not really worth replying to as you're operating within your own vision of what competitive PvP should be, rather than what it is (ie, you believe solo pvp is "unintended" - by who? certainly not Anet, as the option is supported). Solo queues exist in many competitive, group-based games for very well understood reasons. Arguing from a false frame of reference is a waste of time; better to just engage with reality.

Again, the best option is to simply separate solo and group queues, so that people who like to duo (purely for the fun, of course; the increased winrate is purely ancillary) can do that without impacting soloers. This keeps both camps happy.