Soulcleave's Summit: When is it of value?

[TheAgedGnome.7520]

As an open world power Renegade, I have a hard time seeing when using this skill is desirable. The [activation time + energy costs] vs. the benefits just don't seem worth it, even in group content like metas or bounties. It seems preferable to spend the energy on other skills.

When (if at all) would a power Renegade preferentially use Soulcleave's Summit?  Especially in regard to open world.

 

 

[ArthurDent.9538]

never

[TheAgedGnome.7520]

Is there any build or game mode where Soulcleave's Summit is useful?

 

[Nephalem.8921]

On heal ren it can act as a small heal while on kalla for 1.2k h/s or something while your allies are attacking.

Anet loves overnerfing things. It has very few niche uses now. Making it instant cast or way faster to cast would already be enough to make it at least ok. But current casttime + potentially healing for like 4k and doing 700 per hit with this casttime? not worth it.

With 5 allies attacking non stop it would do close to 35k dmg in 10sec. Its ok'ish if it would have a justified normal or instant casttime.

It only has to beat darkrazor for dmg. thats not a lot to make it useful but it took the devs multiple patches to make alliance better dps wise than jalis hammers so there is that.

Edited May 20, 2023 by Nephalem.8921

[Virdo.1540]

Its good to push down your energy for stuff like charged mists, or tickle out extra healing from the trait "Steadfast Rejuvenation"

But yea, it should be a bit better power-scaling wise, together with more base-healing.

Edited May 21, 2023 by Virdo.1540

[George Steel.1804]

isn't it wild that an actual ultimate of one of our stances is completely useless? 

now that i think about it, many of them are worthless. dwarf ult is bad, shiro ult is nice for CC bars but too telegraphed for any pvp content, the entire ventari stance is a meme, and vindi ranges from sometimes cool to also useless. only mallyx and glint are impactful and used as part of normal rotation. 

think about how often you are pressing ult in any form of content be it pve casual/raids/fractal/spvp/wvw. now compare it to any other class ult usage.