Chyro.1462 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Heya. Not sure what's causing this, but my friend on tempest gets this problem on some enemies. In particular, attacking Octovine in Tarir and the water elemental (rock heap) in the Sunqua Peak fractal. When he's in scepter fire attunement, he constantly gets 'no line of sight' when attacking these bosses for both the auto-attack of scepter and dragon's tooth. Does anyone have an idea what could be causing this? Some kind of setting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chyro.1462 Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 Okay, so I went in on my own to try if its just him affected by this. Sunqua peak, second 'boss' the pile of Fallen Boulders. No matter from which side I attack it, skill 1 and 2 in scepter fire constantly have 'no line of sight' and don't work - and only those, even the projectile attacks in earth manage to hit it. The one spot I managed to find where you could cast the skills was by jumping on top of the 'boss' (so onto the rocks) and attacking it while standing on the front-left rock of the pile. Is this intended? Are there other skills that also simply can't be used due to line of sight on this boss (and seemingly octovine has the same issue)? Or is this perhaps just some issue that snuck in through the somewhat recent scepter rework? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Red Arachnid.2493 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 It's been reoccurring problem for years now. Whenever we have object-bosses, their hotbox will be too deep inside of the model, and this will interfere with collision. The same LoS issues plague Deadeye and Mesmer Phantasms against the same bosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chyro.1462 Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 Update: Same issue happens in the new expac Meta Event in Amnytas during the 'attacking the maw' part. So it's not just affecting older content. Can't cast fire-scepter skill 1 or 2 against the maw, "No line of sight" even though you have that huge .. thing right in front of your nose. Please fix this Arenanet. @Rubi Bayer.8493 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrdern.4092 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Basically the collision box of the boss is big enough that it blocks line of sight to the actual target point for the boss ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the krytan assassin.9235 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 They changed/nerfed scepter a couple years ago because it was causing alot of side effects in wvw, (you could hit stuff at the other side of the wall with it). They sort of "fixed" by making it more restrictive in its line of sight. Unfortunately in its current form its overrestricted (just like lightning flash for example) causing it to bug out on a couple occasions (typically on bigger objects or when the object is close to out of line of sight). Seems like a bug that is unfortunately very low on anets priority list, so i guess we better just call it a feature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chyro.1462 Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 I just can't believe devs would let it stand that in a game where combat is the main form of gameplay that certain skills are simply unable to be used against certain enemies / bosses. There's no reason that those skills shouldn't function in every encounter. It's not the same like some enemies being immune to burning and thus some skills losing a lot of their power against these enemies - that's intended and makes sense. This here is an obvious bug and needs to be fixed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallas.8150 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 On 9/2/2023 at 7:15 PM, the krytan assassin.9235 said: They changed/nerfed scepter a couple years ago because it was causing alot of side effects in wvw, (you could hit stuff at the other side of the wall with it). They sort of "fixed" by making it more restrictive in its line of sight. Unfortunately in its current form its overrestricted (just like lightning flash for example) causing it to bug out on a couple occasions (typically on bigger objects or when the object is close to out of line of sight). Seems like a bug that is unfortunately very low on anets priority list, so i guess we better just call it a feature. This. Wasn't an issue until recently-ish (the first nerf after they reviewed and tweaked scepter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCynder.5136 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) This same issue also happens with any line of sight is an issue if you are directly inside the hitbox. Center on center. It's not only just ele scepter fire 1 and 2 but other similar ranged line of sights issue. It's just a feature at this point since there's nothing we can do and Anet wont really fix it. Maybe in 10 years they come back and look at it again. Some classes do suffer the same issue not only what I said but what OP issue has. Edited September 11, 2023 by oCynder.5136 added more info to my post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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