GoldenPants.1870

So uh, kinda working on Nevermore, and that means I gotta get my behind in gear and start farming Dragon's Stand, but the thing is I barely see any groups up.. Ever, which is a problem, ofcourse, is there any guilds that daily farm Dragon's Stand and all the other HoT maps or am I just out of luck ?

Why do you even care ? I got my legendary armor, I know that I can be proud of my achivments, I know I earned it, why should I care if two-finger pete bought a boost for his armor ? He knows he did not aquire it by his own skill, and that can never be changed, that’s enough satisfaction for me, could not care less.

True, but there’s a big difference between the two, and even when riling someone up there’s a right and wrong way to do it. ”Come on, is that the best you got ?!” versus ”You suck.” Even then, most people choose the toxic way calling people all types of nasty words, which is the problem, healthy competition spirit is not. ”Nooo I lost in a virtual game… Do I grow, and learn from my mistake and realize that I can’t always win becuase there are certain factors out of my control…. Or do I fully blame my teammates, refuse to learn, and turn toxic instead ?” Option 2 seems to be the preferred one.

Ah, arguing in bad faith, should've known. Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My class damages you when I press a button.

But you are, you literally are, you put everything on the person that was just insulted instead of the person who was on the recieving end of the toxic barrage, tell me, do you report sexist, racist, or offensive language when you see it ? If someone is being downright nasty to your teammates in a spvp game ? The beat way to deal with it is if everyone goes and reports the person. Ignoring them again juat pushes said vile person onto another person. Yeah, because toxic people absolutley have no rights to be ingame, it only fosters a bad community, the proof is the PvP scene. It’s dead. The more these people get reported the easier its for anet to mute the toxic people. It really doesn’t have to be if people were mature adults that were able to accept losses and move on. It is THEY who are the problem, not the people who get abused. Also ”competetive mode”, look how abandoned the scene is on NA because of the rampant toxic people combined with wintraders. Toxicity is a rampart problem, don’t pretend it is not. Good then that the developers are not in charge of enforcing the CoC then, it’s up to another team, oh I dunno… Gamemasters and customer support etc. And no, no toxic behaviour should be taken with a grain of salt, people should be able to handle losing in games without becoming a vile being that is bent on nothing more than destroying the fun of others. Which happens. Again, people need to REPORT more, not ignore it. Ignoring problems will never work out in the end. Where people should follow the rules they agreed to. If that is a perfect world then pop off I guess. Yeah, I used to, I used to be a very vile and toxic person myself, but I grew up because I realized people a bad person towards others is literally benefitting no one, least the person I vent my frustration towards.

It’s always against the code of conduct, but anet decides if they will enforce it or not, it’s two different things. Besides it’s quite funny how you keep blaming the victims of the verbal abuse like it would be their fault they got abused, guess what ”Ignoring” someone won’t do much, because 1. It just pushes the toxic person to someone else and ruins their day and 2. The person has already spewed their vile words onto someone who has not done anything to them at all. Blame and responsibility should purely be on the ones who are abusive, more people should report them, and anet should be faster and giving them harder and longer punishments for being toxic. Let me tell you, the people who need to ”Harden up” or ”grow up” and ”stop crying” is not the people on the recieving end. It’s the toxic people.

You missed the other part I linked, you know the one about how it is against the code of conduct to use derogatory words against other players, and how that is fully reportable. ”Ignoring someone” won’t fix the problem, that just pushes it into another player, then another one, then another one. The problem is people do not often report verbal abuse for whatever reason, I cannot say, but if people started doing that, you’d probably see a lot of muting going on ingame.

Lets say I am starting from 0 exotic armor, how many Tickets/MoB/Gold will getting the ascended armor take ?

Arenanet does, and infact they already have decided that. No, infact it is in the code of conduct. ”While using our Services, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to use and enjoy the Services. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, intimidate, or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other users of the Services. Similarly, you may not use communications facilities made available as part of the Services to “troll” other users or NCSOFT personnel, post or share memetic images or phrases without substantive content, intentionally cause unrest among users of the Services, or otherwise be disruptive.” ”In connection with our Services, you may not use sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially or ethnically offensive language.” ”The User Agreement contains other requirements that, with this Code of Conduct and other Community Standards, govern your use of the Services. If we determine in our discretion that you failed to comply with our User Agreement (defined below) or this Code of Conduct or other Community Standards, we may limit, suspend, or terminate your access to the Services and/or take other remedial actions that we deem appropriate (e.g., removing violative posts from forums, muting players, etc.).” https://us.ncsoft.com/en-us/legal/ncsoft/code-of-conduct ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That’s a funny way to type that I want people to follow rules set up by the contract you signed when you created your Guild Wars 2 account to be a decent person to others. I used to be toxic, to blame everyone else for my mistakes, guess what I did ? I learned to take responsibility for my own failures instead of becoming a manchild and blaming everyone and thus making their day worse when they had nothing to do with it. But pop off I guess. I mean people always go ”Oh but they should learn how to control their emotions !” all the times towards the victim, but people never say that the abuser should learn how to control his emotions so they do not spill over into a toxic sludge onto other people. People should call out and combat verbal abuse but 90% of players will just not say anything, its sad but its reality. That’s funny, adults don’t blame others, adults don’t put down others for their own mistakes and adults does for sure 100% do not go on to verbally abuse people. They take responsibility for their own actions, and follow the rules set up so people can have a fun time. Guess who is not doing that ? Let me tell you, it’s nor the people that get targeted by the abuse. Not surprised you would type that. If people get mad it shows they do not not have the emotional maturity to deal with a loss and get on with it, instead they go on to blame others, and never grow or develop, but go on, I guess. Maybe you should cancel your Guild Wars 2 account then, because it’s literally against the terms of service to use abusive language of any kind.. Thus making you agree that you also want this ”Dystopian Society”. You do read things before you sign them, right ? Growing up and learning how to deal with losses in a reasonable way. It’s a game, it really shouldn’t make you into a raging volcano if you lose a match or two. No because unlike people who rage the scoreboard can be used to measure your actual performance, and unlike people who rage it is an intentional game design, it’s not toxic, it simply showed how you performed. That’s it, that’s all it does.

And what does this have to do with insulting people ? Helping people is helping people. Not use degrading words towards them. They taught me in a way that was not as far as I remember, saying all kinds of phobic stuff towards me or abuse me in any other way, they did it with kind words and actions, strict, but kind. Maybe you should try to teach the toxic people on how to keep their feelings in check instead ? Instead of the people that are on the recieving end of their emotions and, in turn, abuse ?

Ah yes so I can be immersed and hear the rage instead of reading it.

Oh no, I want people to be decent to others. Wow. What a dystopian utopia.

For who ? The players who keeps harrasing other people, or the normal players who just want to play the game ? Let me tell you, it’s not getting worse for the latter. That is why there are rules that say they CAN’T behave that way. Getting a stricter report and ban system would clean a lot of these guys out, which is needed.

Absolutley.

In connection with our Services, you may not use sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially or ethnically offensive language. https://us.ncsoft.com/en-us/legal/ncsoft/code-of-conduct They have absolutley no rights to act like that. A decent human person does not generally say hateful things to others, they solve it by settling it in mature ways, not raging. Yeah, I did, I used to be a toxic douchebag, but I grew up and realized that did nothing for anyone except spread bad vibes and misery.

It's not so much protecting others as much at it is for people to you know, become decent human beings, Are you personally abusing people ? No ? Good. Are you abusing people ? Yes ? Then stop it, same goes if your friend goes to spew vile bile onto someone else. Don't just sit there and say "Yeah", but tell him to knock it off. Stuff like that goes a long way.

Then I can see why YOU think it is not a problem. But it is. Muting and moving on will never really solve the problem, it just pushes it further along for someone else to hear the vile things instead. Anet really should be more respondant on answering reports for toxic chat, and mute repeat offenders more often and harder. I see literally 0 what this have to do with anything ?

Yes, because the first one won't happen in PvP. It's only the latter one.. This one. People shouldn't have to go block/mute crazy on half a gamemode's population, people should instead really learn how to not behave like raging volcanos spewing out all manners of horrible words.

No, it's really not, I don't go around and absolutely spew vile bile onto anyone that I happen to play with or against. Gaming culture is people who like to play games, not send vile stuff onto others. Okay, great that it works for you, really, but have you ever thought that you are doing it to your friends, and not others ? Then it really should be changed. But again this has nothing to do with Football, this has to do with PvP. It's two very different things, both are competetive in nature, yes, and there is where a lot of toxicity is coming from, but is it an excuse for it to continiue ? Absolutley not.

Becoming a decent human being seems to be very hard for some reason idk why.

On that example the wolf literally stands back and charges for like 2 and a half years before it executes the knockdown.

"Hmm maybe people need to learn how to behave like human beings.." "nah lets just blame the person that gets insulted, that'll do it !"

I am from TC and I like it when we are double teamed. Zerglings from both SoS and Blackgate are super easy to pick off from their zergs to give you free bags. Besides, saves me the trouble to run around to try to find the few roamers the respective servers have. Oh, and it is a nice change from fighting the 10+ bots Blackgate has running around on their servers, and no, that does not mean bad players, actual bots, that I have encountered several times.