[[REAL] The real reason for poor balance and gamemode negligience.]

On 11/12/2023 at 2:15 PM, Irastira.8643 said:

Hate to break it to you, PvP is poorly balanced because Arena.Net never wanted to implement it into GW2. 

Bro what? GW2 on release was a pvp focused game. In first two years of the game pve and dungeons were a side activity at best. PvP was the central focus. Skins, Rewards, Rank, Tourneys, ESL plans, huge budget allocations. Slower more tactical play meant to capitalize on the moba market and the pvp mmo market. The original vision of Guild Wars 2 PvP was to absorb the ESL market for Mobas and MMOs in one game.

They failed and lost sponsors due to a myriad of reason, mostly bad balance choices, cheating communities, and a refusal to take in player feedback. Also TERRIBLE MARKETING. I cant tell you how badly they handled this. GW2 was NEVER advertised properly. This lead to a huge player withdrawal loss of sponsors, and a force out from ESL when gw2 lost their endorsement. Further ruining the game mode they removed 5 man ques which prevented players from choosing 100 percent of their teammates making a ranked competitive mode a largely RNG Based experience with no agency over the results, with the original Gliko rating system (which btw came much later after release) kept in place to score you on an individual basis even though its a team based game. The rating system was designed to provide rank to static teams that play together over a period of time. Which is the only scenario where a Gliko rating system (like that of chess) would even make sense in a game mode designed for teams. It was never supposed to rank an individual it was for team ranks.

When they removed 5 man ques they also destroyed the need for spvp focused guilds (part of their shift in priorities over to pve) leaving original pvp focus guilds and hot join spvp guilds [Shout Out to Champion Slayer the OG hot join spvp guild] (which used to provide the essential intro and tutorials for pvp) to die off because out of the 200 to 350 people in each guild instead of queing up as two 5 man teams (10 total guild members) practicing together they were left with a duo que system which meant spvp guilds no longer could regularly que together.

Further they reduced the time it took to achieve rank in pvp significantly (at the time people with shark rank or higher) were immediately rewarded with dragon rank as retro active rank points applied to their accounts, PvE skins which originally were not allowed in PvP lobbies (pvp skins only when we had our own mystic forge) were now allowed in. 

Over time after their initial ambitions were abandoned because of the devs lack of protecting the integrity of the game (something they continue to do) ruined it for everyone. They gave up and went on to PvE.

TLDR:

I could go on and on how the potential of this game to be the greatest pvp experience ever was completely botched. The idea that this game was never meant to have PvP in it is one of the most untrue things ever said on the forums, and the tragedy of the waste is something I think many original players still hold onto. Wanting the original vision of this game to return.  It wont - they systematically and intentionally broke down our game mode as they switched priorities. 

[Why am I consistently getting 35%+ dmg on my team and other top stats and being placed with afk'ers]

On 11/8/2023 at 12:46 PM, magickthief.6492 said:

This is going to be a tough pill for many to swallow, but the skill level of players today  is much lower that from even just a few years ago. Even your vets don't get adequate practice to stay sharp as before and quite a few have resorted to massive amounts of whining in the forums because of their newly developed failure to gitgud. Sad days really. But, most of your "pros", the current bottom 150, are gold 1 pre2020 patch. If you truly are a "plat 2" or whatever player, the chances of facing that skill level in game is very small....very very very small. Especially if you have an older account with lots of games. This ultimately means maybe 20 real players and their alts or who they are boosting will be your only "real" competition. The rest are just potato. The average skill level may be 1200, but that is on a modified bell curve, today it probably is 1000 or less.

This is facts and why 

this is true

On 11/8/2023 at 1:37 PM, magickthief.6492 said:

The behavior comes from the reason I laid out. They are throwing, or they are weak crybabies. That is the tldr

On 11/8/2023 at 1:40 PM, Deadmoose.6594 said:

I have to disagree with you on your main point about skill,

Its not an oppion subject to disagree with. Its a cause and effect fact. And the reason everyone left is because of this

23 hours ago, Riba.3271 said:

Honestly, with wintraders plagueing this game, I don't think anyone who isn't selling high ranked or tournament titles is taking it seriously anymore

The integrity of the mode is gone. All the good players just in the last couple years (what was left) are largely gone. whats left is what your feeling moose. Its sad really.

[The people designing ele should be reassigned]

5 hours ago, Eddie.9143 said:

Should be like wow, a slow caster that does big damage that moves slow but can blink around while rotating defensives. Fresh air is such a weird version of ele.

I have always, always wanted this. I want it to hurl fire balls mixed with lighting lol. Actually cast stuff thats not on the floor. Something always rubbed me wrong about the way ele has everything tied to the floor. Felt cheap and cheasy. 

[The people designing ele should be reassigned]

This is a good post. And its true. @Sahne.6950 Posted this a hand full of times in different deliveries. I feel for Ele mains. What a yoyo of an experience. The profession is bi-polar because its confused. Either amazing/OP or uninspiring and watered down. IMO the fundamental flaw with ele has always been that its a caster that fights like a melee class. This basic cross over makes the class often during certain patches feel squishy and very, very easily killed - frustrating for ele mains because in order to give big value they are forced into the mix for a lot of their aura sharing, or people feel its OP and unkillable in an effort to give ele mains a chance to not appear, then immediately die on point. I've never seen ele be in a A Tier non over powered state that is accessible and useable for any prolonged period of time. The class is a seesaw. 

[It's time to implement 24/7 Arena because Conquest is trash]

16 hours ago, Deadmoose.6594 said:

Please upvote this if you're in favor of it. I'm really tired of Conquest being the only pvp option. There's literally 0 reason for it. The least the devs could do is give us ranked Arena 24/7, literally the LEAST they could do.

Your posts are starting to sound like that of an actual vet. Welcome brother. We are all over here in the graveyard that was once SPvP only guilds, 5 man ques, hot join servers, unranked rewards that used to reward pvp skins that actually mattered, and the old HOTM that looked like Valhalla. 

[Points Lost Should Scale Based On How Badly You Lost]

Hey @Deadmoose.6594 Guess what Man? I agree with you whole heartedly here. Loosing 500-490ish just to take a -29 hit to rating is such a trash things. Totally disheartening and why so many afk. Them not doing this is why people give up once they recognize its not a W. If the rating lost is the same either way best option is to get out as fast as possible GG go next and get into a new match. Great post man 10/10. 

[Situational Awareness]

Confused reacts incoming. But good post. 

[Warrior is still stupidly op and needs to be nerfed to the ground asap]

On 10/24/2023 at 11:46 AM, Psycoprophet.8107 said:

and is a $hitty thing to wish upon players that enjoy the spec,

This is basicly my entire concern around the forums. People want to enjoy what they can where they can in whats left of our game mode. Lets stop seeign eachother as the enemies and understand were all enjoyers of a game mode here and want to play our specs. We have more spec versatility than we have had in awhile so its nice to enjoy atm. Nerfing naything into the ground is never good for the mode because it hurts players. 

[The sobering truth that we will prob have to wait for GW3 before PvP gets anything new.]

There's no GW3 bro lol. 

[How badly do we hate sPvP: Arenanet:]

On 10/21/2023 at 3:57 AM, zonias.1083 said:

What about solo players? I do not mind people have the ability to duo, but i do not wanna face duos in my games. So are you saying that solo player satisfaction should not matter? 

If it is one or two that is okey, but i faced 20 yesterday, 20 matches that where unwinnable. 

They need to leave twos and 3s year round team only q and let the solo quers have 5 mans. Merge the rewards. It wont save 5mans from win trading but at least in 2s and 3s we wont get throwers. 

[How badly do we hate sPvP: Arenanet:]

@zonias.1083 @chaoslordlol.3165 3v3 and 2v2 are for teams. Its working as intended. PvP is not a solo que activity. 

[Ranger 5 second stun needs to go]

Just now, Deadmoose.6594 said:

been schooled by several rangers lately because the class has 0 downsides.

Wrong. On melee ranger they are extremely vulnerable at range. Melee ranger has 3 quick gap closers once they are gone they are on CD and getting burrsted. LB ranger close on them and catch them with bow out instead of GS for example right after a weapon swap, they cant do anything but die lol.

2 minutes ago, Deadmoose.6594 said:

literally this, you should fact check before you question.

Why would I fact check a statement you made? You made a declaration. Its on you to provide context and proof lmaooo. I asked for clarification. 

3 minutes ago, Deadmoose.6594 said:

Massive burst damage from invis from classes that can invis. Shouldn't have to mention context. This has also been complained about recently and not just by me.

You main a mez. So you dont get to say this. Also - invis is a mechanic that cause noob rage. Its predictable at this point. Which is why even on your mez (with the access to invis that your complaining about) you still are very obviously getting farmed. My context for this is your constant QQ Posts. 

5 minutes ago, Deadmoose.6594 said:

Enjoy your nerfs. I know I will.

I dont know if u noticed but the "nefs" haven't been what they used to and I am very much enjoying it. You just posted ranger is still OP didnt you? (Its not) but after "nerfs" its still viable. Thats called balance. 

Ill enjoy ur posts of you being constantly farmed lmao. 

[Ranger 5 second stun needs to go]

17 hours ago, Deadmoose.6594 said:

Its op, ranger itself is still op.

Not even close - l2p

17 hours ago, Deadmoose.6594 said:

healing through shroud damage in a downstate with a pet is super op too.

What even does this mean? Are you trying to say while shrouded as a reaper and doing damage to a downed state ranger - they are out healing you? '

17 hours ago, Deadmoose.6594 said:

Invis mechanics

Context? 

17 hours ago, Deadmoose.6594 said:

Rangers

Warriors

Bruh - ama just say it. You gotta really chill on these posts. Fall back. 

[You need 2 mains to be good]

2 minutes ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said:

The same people confused about multiclassing are the same people confused about why their wild balancing suggestions dont get implemented. 

"I didn't walk in this classes shoes but surely I know what I'm tlaking about when I say delete it and all its specs"

👏😂

 

[You need 2 mains to be good]

10 hours ago, GuriGashi.5617 said:

Sindrener (thief-only), Zan (engi-only), Pain (thief-only), Grimjack (mostly ele-only), Floody (engi-only) and many more would disagree

Sind and Grim multiclass. never heard of floody or pain. 

[You need 2 mains to be good]

14 hours ago, Arheundel.6451 said:

People emojying you, are those who barely know how to play a single spec on a single class and when they lose...they'll come straight here ..

Huge Facts. 

[yes.... AGAIN....]

7 hours ago, Sahne.6950 said:

Even when running 11k fullglass, they dont compare to the damageoutput of other professions.

Want to offer you some support here - TBH Ele is a weird class and I agree with you. It has always felt (3 times total imo) either temporarily overpowered to a ridiculous degree, or useless outside of support as tempest. Tempest Support is really the only historically consistent way to play ele in a meaningful way in ranked. Its power builds rise and fall like winter wheat. Its not in line with the damage of other classes. This is just objectively true. Also - this is a hot take but ele having most aoe attacks instead of ranged attacks has always felt weird to me. It should "throw" more damage then it does instead of needing to be in their enemies face as often as it is. It behaves like a melee class in a lot of ways when its actually a light armor caster. I think thats why things like stone heart get out of hand as often as they do. Ele - has always felt like a class with an identify crisis. I've always wanted it feel more like mage then it does. 

Interested to hear your thoughts. 

[When is balance patch?]

On 10/12/2023 at 3:21 AM, Burnfall.9573 said:

Consequence; remove Warrior Profession access to Longbow

 

[Stealth is not OP, you are just bad]

On 10/7/2023 at 2:37 AM, vesica tempestas.1563 said:

its not stealth , its the amount of stealth.  I was fighting a player for 10 minutes in wvw before i finaly managed to kill him.  This is how the fight went.,

On 10/7/2023 at 2:37 AM, vesica tempestas.1563 said:

I was fighting a player for 10 minutes in wvw

On 10/7/2023 at 2:37 AM, vesica tempestas.1563 said:

in wvw

On 10/7/2023 at 2:37 AM, vesica tempestas.1563 said:

i finaly managed to kill him

@Flowki.7194 I mean lol... Not only is it WvW. He didnt even loose the fight. So whats the basis of anything here? You both countered yourselves lmfao. Oh man. 

[Stealth is not OP, you are just bad]

45 minutes ago, Flowki.7194 said:

Oh it most certainly countered you, and any other thief trying to defend the amount of mobility+stealth access thief has. Thieves are the biggest gaslighters going 😜 which is obviously very fitting from a lore perspective.

 

At-least the average zerker admits the spec is rediculous, for its own reasons.

 

So you think the post talking about a WvW experience in the spvp forums countered me? Just want to make sure I have this right lol...? It countered absolutely nothing my guy. Its a post that is completely irrelevant to the game mode that we are talking about. His 10 minute duel with a thief in wvw is as irrelevant to this forum as how the raid boss encounter with Peter Pve went last Tuesday. 

Also - That fact that your clinging to this post in the spvp forums, that has nothing to do with spvp says a lot lol. Do you not understand how different stealth works in a closed envoirment like arena vs that of the open plains of wvw? Also... long duels are very common and sought after in wvw lol. Something to be celebrated. 10 minute anything doesnt happen in spvp. GGs tho. 

[Stealth is not OP, you are just bad]

On 10/7/2023 at 2:37 AM, vesica tempestas.1563 said:

its not stealth , its the amount of stealth.  I was fighting a player for 10 minutes in wvw before i finaly managed to kill him.  This is how the fight went.,

he tried to gank me, he stealthed and ran away.

he tried to gank me, i popped some condy on him and got a hit in, he stealthed and ran away.

he tried to gank me, i popped some condy on him and got a hit in, he stealthed and ran away.

he tried to gank me, i popped some condy on him and got a hit in, he stealthed and ran away, he healed

for 10 minutes..

This is the problem, its poor gameplay,

@Flowki.7194 Is this the post you think countered me lmao?

[Stealth is not OP, you are just bad]

On 10/8/2023 at 6:17 AM, Flowki.7194 said:

Your post is rediculous, and has already been countered quite simply by the quated post below

Nah - also whats quated mean? Is that a fruit?

On 10/8/2023 at 6:17 AM, Flowki.7194 said:

If a thief does not want to be caught, he will not be caught

Sic Em says hello - Swap to ranger to deal with thief, or mez, or class match to thief, or WB, or scrapper, there's more then  enough theif counters in game lol. Run to mid for peels. Thief's can and will be caught. Play one to learn how to counter it. TBH - its easy lol. 

[Stealth is not OP, you are just bad]

On 10/1/2023 at 2:12 AM, Gotejjeken.1267 said:

Nade engi is a FAR more egregious misuse of stealth than anything thief can do, but anet still doesn't touch it.

Probably because topics like these are ultra focused on thief which stopped being a threat years ago.

Facts

On 10/1/2023 at 12:11 AM, ccccc.4963 said:

lot of players in this thread with low fov and it shows 

eh Yah

On 10/1/2023 at 4:00 AM, Flowki.7194 said:

No, youre bias and defending bs mechanics. A universal counter to stealth is needed, which will up the risk/reward of thief. If that comes with some additional direct sustain for the thief then so be it.. but right now the thiefs low risk high reward game play is toxic af and not impressive at all. It cannot be considered genuine skill if you have the mechanics that allow you to escape almost any situation.. you need to think about that. Thief isnt the only one with high escape mobility, their are a few other specs that need to be slapped in line due to the same issue, low risk engagements due to the ability to get out at will.

Nah bro - In here trippin on age old mechanics. Listen - for you @Flowki.7194 and @TrollingDemigod.3041 and @Burnfall.9573 Give this up - Stealth has been part of the game since launch. Literally launch. This is not a new mechanic, a patch, or something introduced via expac. Its part of the core of the game. Theres really nothing else to say - Learn to deal with stealth as a mechanic - (slide in a reveal in a utility, use stealth to counter, make a swap pre match to adjust with the area you struggle with) or do anything other than be upset here. If yall are REALLY that upset about a mechanic thats been in the game for as long as the game has existed, then its not the game fault lmao. Learn to address and play the game instead of trying to change the game to your needs/play style. 3 Ways to deal with stealth are as follows: Throw some Condi on that (Burn/Posion are especially helpful) or if they disnege with stealth - Just rotate out of the fight. Re-engage when they reappear. If they have to stealth to leave you won the match up and they are not getting node credit while stealthed.  This is where kiting nad movement are huge in game.  @magickthief.6492 Came in here to support you since you getting rat packed by E-Rage lmao.  These posts translate to: I play 1 class and that 1 class is countered by thief, I dont want to play anything else, and therefore the profession that counters me must be nerfed into the ground until it is no longer a counter to accommodate me not wanting to do anything different. GGs. 

[Festival Dates]

14 hours ago, Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:

If 'Mad King' started on the first of October, it would not even cover Halloween.  Same with Wintersday and the first of December

Lol. I am asking for it to be the 1st to 31st of October (covering Halloween and the month of Halloween) and the 1st of December to the fist of January for Christmas and New Years. Your statement is based assuming I want it to be a 3 week run time for an event - I am not suggesting that lmao. That timeline of 3 weeks for an event is also weird. Typically, events, themes, etc take place for the "month of" its a standard timeline. It also allows for less of a crunch and for people to play. As referenced earlier by another player. 

 

[Festival Dates]

On 9/10/2023 at 1:16 AM, Sirius Goldman.8507 said:

I am not someone that wants to see Christmas decorations in stores in July, but I feel like a general consensus would be to start Mad King as soon after October 1st as you can and Wintersday as soon after December 1st as you can. People are in the spirit and across multiple guilds over multiple years I have seen exasperated sighs that it has taken so long to start. I thought things were finally looking right in 2021, but then you had it go on until the 9th of November which is too long. Looking forward to seeing my old friend Steve again.

So - Typically I only pvp. I have had this cool experience where like 8-9 people from my guild from vanilla launch have returned to GW2 and so we have like an OG party of like 15 people in our disc (which is awesome nostalgia) and we all wanted to do the Mad King event as group together to get back into playing together again.

We were all really dismayed to discover that the event starts on the 17th? We all intuitively thought it would be the first and were gonna link up this to get it going. By mid October the hype is almost already over. Its a weird choice.

the 1st of October and the first of December should 100 percent be the start dates. I find it really weird. This is what actually brought me to this part of the forums - I was looking to make sure googles info on the 17th - 5th of November for some reason? Is actually accurate. Appears it is. Pretty goofy.