Jack Redline.5379

i am talking pvp arena at the lobby. Where ppl can come and fight. And why would i pay for my own personal arena when there is free arena where duels and fighting each other should be posible w/o ppl like this ruining it for everyone? Also EDIThow do you practice your class if you simply have to pick another one or a new build to adjust to every bully you meet?

upset about targeting. If you know what it means.

How can you report player for targeting you? Especially in PVP arena. It is impossible to play or train there if someone with holo retaliation guard condi mirage or hide and seek deadeye targets you and wont let you even enter the arena w/o instantly killing you?

Off handed torch/axe/sword

okay if you want it to be pistol basedlet him take 2 pistols and spam 3 with ricochet that would be equally stupid

And this is the point i step in. We cant get Ricochet cuz of this.Let us imagine a DE equiping Ricochet. De takes rifle full Valkyrie gear approaches zerk from afar stealths kneels and starts autoattacking with rifle in a while he has full malice and he drops DJ with Ricochet trait onNow let us take a moment to imagine that saltenjoys the Vial of SaltYea it was niceIf you'd put Ricochet back it either wouldnt interact with DE spec or it would have to be very specific on which skills can be ''ricochetting'' or you are going to make the game even more unbalancedAlso dont forget about PVPAtm Ricochet could cause some serious dmgAnd we ran out of Flex tape last week

Again? Srsly? Okay whatever. I want comdi based off hand sword or torch elite with tons of AoE and field effect dmg dealingOrMain hand mace for tons of Cc and interuptsThxI was a good boy this year i want Santa to bring me nice gift

Biotuful even here. Devs answering and nothing in Theif forum. Wondeful.

I just had to for reasons 8^)

Thank you very much. I simply couldnt deal with him anymore. I am not best at self-control when i see someone like this constantly sending bs like this and i didnt want to get banned so i quit it. Thank you for dealing with this further. I would send a man of culture but it just copies the link :)

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bro i know you from forum and i know you agree but I will put a small reminder. Ele got sword cuz every ele was supposedly calling out to get it ALSO Deadeye got rifle because everyone supposedly wanted it. If everyone supposedly will this time want Suport thief even tho i believe we wont get it i have some serious goosebumps on my back when i recall these two supposedly forum based elites. And that is the last expansion. I am trying to talk sense to ppl here because i know Anet might just do it and i pray to all gods that they dont. Ergo my arguing with everyone who comes up with that crazy support crap. you argue with them as well i dont believe you do it just cuz you have a lot of free time

Okay. I see what you mean. But the thing is the more new especs is there going to be the less viable is the core going to be. Already now. Core thief is hardly making it through not to mention condi thieves like myself. It is harder and harder with the core. And if the next elite will not boost the core but it will change thief in something else like it did with Deadeye already.Core will simply lost its meaning. Yes you will be able to play the game. PVP and WVW but you will make no progress. You will get stuck in Silver or Gold at best because your build will not let you further. And that is why i am arguing that ppl should not try to change thief in next espec. Cuz if Anet will change it and we will become a support class as many ppl want us to theif will simply die out. Even now ppl are simply transfering to other classes or Deadeye. I dont count that one as a thief cuz it is basically a sniper with shadow magic.And i dont want to be forced out of my class. It is not the game that would force me out, it would be the ppl. They would force me out of it. Condi thief to raids? No. Even these days ppl will right away ask me if i cant go Souldbeast or Holo. If it is a tolerant group they will let you play if not tough luck. Fractals? Okay maybe. Sometimes. But why would they take outdated thief if they can get new support thief. WvW and PvP okay. Maybe until Silver 3 or Gold 2. Because it wont be just a thief that will get new espec. It is going to be every class.They will be simply better and stronger and faster and your old thief will not be enough. That is why we need a strong new Thief like espec. Or we will parish.

And i don't understant what do you mean by that. I am talking about all this nonsense going around and ppl trying to change thief class into anything else.

I dont understand what the kitten happened to thieves community. WHO THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE? Thieves never wanted to be supports. Thieves always wanted to be cold blooded in shadow hiding killers. With big dps and majority of the time nobody cared if you do it with power or condi specs. We loved to be hated. The more salt the better. You know who feels like that now? MESMERS DO! What the hell happened to this community that y'all now want to be mages and supports and what ever else just not Thieves? Why? Is it because we are weaker than others now? Well kitten your weak behind. Stand up to what you have now and fight with it. And dont try to become other classes. We are theives. We have our kitten pride for what we are and how we do what we do. From what you are saying you just want to become Mesmers or Rangers or Wariors. Well then leave thief class. Make urself a nice mesmer or whatever and enjoy your great benefits. Dont put a sticker of Thief on other classes. We want to be thieves not anything else. If you cant take what a thief is get out. There is 8 other classes which are currently stronger than thief. Pick one and stick to it. Dont try to make thief anything else than a thief. You maybe dont realize it but you are stealing a whole class from people who love it for what it is. If Anet is listening like they did when they made Deadeye. God save us from what monstrosity they would create if they would listen to you.If you are a thief be a thief or get out.

i am having a great urge to tell something nasty to you but i wont. I will just say this. No. Thank you.

Whatever you are smoking bro. I want 50 kg of that.

I am glad someone is finally on my side at this thread. Yes thieves are not mages. And if you want to play mage go play mesmer or any of those other schollar classes.

man please dont argue with him anymore i agree with you and majority of thief players do. please just dont bother with this anymore it is becoming really hillarious. Let him have his bubble please. His oppinion after all doesnt matter. just as yours and mine. Anet is going to get to decide what happens next. We dont know what is it going to be. We have like 80-90% probability of what it is going to be but we don know. Dont bother with this it is pointless = O :D

I would like the fists for Thief but not in the next Expansion. Maybe later. I mean it would be really nice to smack the hell out of your enemies xD Also DD could be that. I dont know why we had to have Staff. It could be done with kicks and punches like a NINJA like espec would do it. But okay i am fine with this

Dont bother with him. It is pointless => OHe will forever twist what you say and try to convince you he is right. Dont respond to him it is easier that way. Some ppl simply dont understand thief or they misunderstood it and now they play it for wront purpose and hope it will change in their way but it wont since thief is thief nothing else.

I quit i will not aruge with you further more. It is pointless => OYou will constantly say that thieves have magic and i will constatnly prove to you they dontAnd as i said multiple times Deception is not magic. If you decieve someone you dont use magic you use skill and tricks.I am done with this BS. No more responses to you.

You know what. I am stopping this after i explain this to you. Because you will simply list all the stealth traits thief and when i rationally explain it to you you will simply disagree cuz you want to have magician thief. Shado magic is not a game mechanic. Shadow magic is a theme. Game mechanics are ways how the game allows you to acomplish your goal. = You can walk so you are able to get from point A to point B.Game mechanics are sort of a line you can or have to walk so you've achieved your goal. A theme on the other hand. Is the in game explanation of the game mechanics which is either set with the backstory or lore of the world.It has nothing to do with mechanics. It is only a sticker which tells you = the character moves forward, Yea he walks. The character is invisible. Yea he is in stealth. In lore of GW2 thieves were never mages. Only espec for thief that mentions shadow magic (a theme) is Deadeye. And as i said before. You already got your magical thief themed espec = Deadeye. The Thief or Daredevil on the other hand NEVER had nothing to do with magic. They were acrobattic, sneaky, deceptive, tricksters.I am not going to explain every single trait Thief has to you go to Wiki and read it word by word so you can figure it out. A theme of a Thief is not a mage. A theme of a Thief is THE THIEF. Thank you for your attention lecture is over.