It was enough to keep you afloat. Not on par with SW or istan, but okayish considering the upfront weekly rewards. More would have been better to begin with, because then more players would have been attracted to repeating raids, which is important to get good and stop being the one that gets carried constantly.Now its a handful of BLUE unident gear. Worth not even 10s. What were the specific amounts before and after? Let’s say they did a full wing clear. How much gold did they get before and how much gold do they get now? That’s what I was asking. If I'm not mistaken the difference is between these two:old: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bag_of_Gearnew: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Piece_of_Common_Unidentified_Gear Bag of gear used to drop 3 items based on your level, so you could open them with a lower level character to get more expensive materials, or more useful ones if you craft Ascended items, they require materials from all tiers.Meanwhile, Unidentified Gear drops a single item that is level 80 meaning you mostly get tier 5 materials (which are very cheap) What I was trying to get them to show was the actual gold about between the two. Despite the difference between unident gear and bag of gear, I don’t think players got enough of either to make that change being a significant drop in gold. Especially if assisting others with their raids. Before: 1-2 champ bags + 2-4 masterwork bags = ~12s + mats from champ bagNow: 4-6 unidentified blue gear = ~5s Was it worth it? Barely. Theres enough threads about this issue however.But now its even less so, and it feels like a kick in the nuts. Its the straw that broke this camels back. Until anet fixes this issue, Im going to fullclear once a week - maybe - and then log off. Since thats how its supposed to be done anyway.No more helping out. I dont need the practice, and its no fun to do raids with noobs anyway, due to the downtime between pulls mostly.I aggree. It's a joke that you cant get anything at least semi ok for clearing multiple times. CMs once per account, now normal raids once per week. Some ppl, including me, have fun when they see +gold. But now going more raiding than once per week is a waste of time. Helping noobs is a waste of time. Not that rewards werent garbage before.