Downstate.4697 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Here me out. Could this make valk a viable amulet for dps guardian? Also glacial blow. Could hammer be a viable weapon if we consider running all physical utilities for cc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar.4257 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Valk amulet yes. Hammer no. Hammer has problem that 100% of the damage comes from 1 skill, which has a longer cooldown than it takes to regenerate endurance. If the enemy isn't a potato, they'll just watch for that 1 skill and dodge it every single time. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeoLegend.5132 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Valk amulet screamed into my ears when i read the change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhittyKhat.2601 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Valkyrie Amulet was useable even before this buff but now it's for sure the best one to use when traited. Hammer still is much inferior to GS because GS has a CC (GS5) that's much easier to land than H4/H5. GS3 also has extra mobility+healing with it doing pretty decent damage when critical hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Valk is the way to go. Hammer is a no go. Unless they give glacial cascade 3 sec CD or less hammer can never be a useable weapon in pvp. Everything else is useless, especially in pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyriel.4370 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Hammer is fun but I get the feeling that the core medi is back with GS. Hammer is good to catch people with skill 2 but the cast time for everything else is hella slow. Also consider that GS 4 gives you a field that buffs up resolution so something like GS4 + GS5 + Smite +GS2 is a heavy dps hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwaihir.1745 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 This change should have come to wvw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Zebra.8597 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Valk is still a subpar pick, see the effective power calculations below: Resolution ONLY (non-burning target, no fury): Zerk div: 4945.05105 Mara div: 4203.542 Mara scholar: 4428.3229 Valk eagle: 2907.5516 Resolution+burning target ONLY (no fury): Zerk div: 5400.296 (capped) Mara div: 4363.6894 (capped) Mara scholar: 4781.1735 (capped) Valk eagle: 3452.7516 Resolution+fury ONLY (non-burning target): Zerk div: 5400.296 (capped) Mara div: 4363.6894 (capped) Mara scholar: 4781.1735 (capped) Valk eagle: 3997.9516 Resolution+Fury+burning target: Zerk div: 5400.296 (capped) Mara div: 4363.6894 (capped) Mara scholar: 4781.1735 (capped) Valk eagle: 4543.1516 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan.1704 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 12 hours ago, Hogwarts Zebra.8597 said: Valk is still a subpar pick, see the effective power calculations below: Resolution ONLY (non-burning target, no fury): Zerk div: 4945.05105 Mara div: 4203.542 Mara scholar: 4428.3229 Valk eagle: 2907.5516 Resolution+burning target ONLY (no fury): Zerk div: 5400.296 (capped) Mara div: 4363.6894 (capped) Mara scholar: 4781.1735 (capped) Valk eagle: 3452.7516 Resolution+fury ONLY (non-burning target): Zerk div: 5400.296 (capped) Mara div: 4363.6894 (capped) Mara scholar: 4781.1735 (capped) Valk eagle: 3997.9516 Resolution+Fury+burning target: Zerk div: 5400.296 (capped) Mara div: 4363.6894 (capped) Mara scholar: 4781.1735 (capped) Valk eagle: 4543.1516 My guy did the math on this one. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyriel.4370 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 14 hours ago, Hogwarts Zebra.8597 said: Valk is still a subpar pick, see the effective power calculations below: Resolution ONLY (non-burning target, no fury): Zerk div: 4945.05105 Mara div: 4203.542 Mara scholar: 4428.3229 Valk eagle: 2907.5516 Resolution+burning target ONLY (no fury): Zerk div: 5400.296 (capped) Mara div: 4363.6894 (capped) Mara scholar: 4781.1735 (capped) Valk eagle: 3452.7516 Resolution+fury ONLY (non-burning target): Zerk div: 5400.296 (capped) Mara div: 4363.6894 (capped) Mara scholar: 4781.1735 (capped) Valk eagle: 3997.9516 Resolution+Fury+burning target: Zerk div: 5400.296 (capped) Mara div: 4363.6894 (capped) Mara scholar: 4781.1735 (capped) Valk eagle: 4543.1516 What you put there isn’t ringing wholly true. Those runes aren’t used that much as a guard in spvp. More lynx for movement. Also missing the key part of valk. Sustain. The current meta is aoe spam, you need to be able to take a hit cus a theoretical high end zerker crit is 0 when dead. I’ve noticed some success with valk, very little with zerker/maurader because the extra jump for health allows me to skirmish points, survive bursts etc. I’ve been regularly getting top kill / offence / damage on my team stats. Even able to take out bunkers 1v1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Bourgogne.9642 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Pyriel.4370 said: What you put there isn’t ringing wholly true. Those runes aren’t used that much as a guard in spvp. More lynx for movement. Also missing the key part of valk. Sustain. The current meta is aoe spam, you need to be able to take a hit cus a theoretical high end zerker crit is 0 when dead. I’ve noticed some success with valk, very little with zerker/maurader because the extra jump for health allows me to skirmish points, survive bursts etc. I’ve been regularly getting top kill / offence / damage on my team stats. Even able to take out bunkers 1v1. You run divinity on willbender because you got a lot of mobility from dashes, ports and your virtues give you swiftness. You don't run Lynx. Mara + divinity is 19k HP while Valk + Eagle is around 20k. Your gaining 1k hp or a bit more for running valk over mara divinity but lose a lot of damage unless you got perfect conditions with burning fury and resolution which you don't most of the time. And that 1k extra HP is kinda low value. Willbender is best compared with power herald and that build runs around with 17k-20k hp, you don't need that extra 1k hp just run mara divinity and do consistent damage. Divinity is a broken rune that gives so much stats so you already profit just from running that over eagle/lynx. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyriel.4370 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, McPero.3287 said: You run divinity on willbender because you got a lot of mobility from dashes, ports and your virtues give you swiftness. You don't run Lynx. Mara + divinity is 19k HP while Valk + Eagle is around 20k. Your gaining 1k hp or a bit more for running valk over mara divinity but lose a lot of damage unless you got perfect conditions with burning fury and resolution which you don't most of the time. And that 1k extra HP is kinda low value. Willbender is best compared with power herald and that build runs around with 17k-20k hp, you don't need that extra 1k hp just run mara divinity and do consistent damage. Divinity is a broken rune that gives so much stats so you already profit just from running that over eagle/lynx. I run core medi guard with hammer. Valk with Lynx. Works fine. Willbender dies too quickly and the core virtues are easy ways to quickly access safe stomps and resolution on demand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Bourgogne.9642 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Pyriel.4370 said: I run core medi guard with hammer. Valk with Lynx. Works fine. Willbender dies too quickly and the core virtues are easy ways to quickly access safe stomps and resolution on demand. I thought this was a willbender exclusive thread sorry my bad. Edited March 31, 2022 by McPero.3287 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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