Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) Tactics banner with doubled standards now provides a nice answer to blind and weakness spam classes that don't respect you enough on warrior to prevent you from gap closing. The superspeed helps you counter any movement skills they may use to put themselves away from your banner, and the quickness lets you push damage on them without having to worry about weakness or blind. they now -must- dodge you if you have banner off cd and drop it. *applause* Good work. This helps core, zerker and spellbreaker. It may take a little while for people to get the muscle memory, but the parts are there. dont touch the boon times/cd. Dont touch them. DONT. Edited August 2, 2022 by Azure The Heartless.3261 8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekent.3652 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Yeah, the tactics banner seems good, but is it good enough? does it fits in viable builds without a hard tradeoff? can warrior finally becomes a different option to guard when it comes to team stab? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmTheStorm.2364 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I think Banner of Tactics is great. Very excited to see how I can make use of it. BoDefense is ok; on drop effct is fantastic but I'm not sold that regen will be that impactful. Banners of Strength and discipline seem very underwhelming, and I struggle to think of where they might be used (except to get the quickness from DS, of course). I think those should probably get some love to bring them up to Banner of Tactics' level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arewn.2368 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 54 minutes ago, CalmTheStorm.2364 said: I think Banner of Tactics is great. Very excited to see how I can make use of it. BoDefense is ok; on drop effct is fantastic but I'm not sold that regen will be that impactful. Banners of Strength and discipline seem very underwhelming, and I struggle to think of where they might be used (except to get the quickness from DS, of course). I think those should probably get some love to bring them up to Banner of Tactics' level. Banner of Strength seems awkward to me right now because of the ramp-up and subsequent ramp-down of the Might it provides. They probably should have reserved the pulsing boons for things that stack duration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zizekent.2398 said: Yeah, the tactics banner seems good, but is it good enough? does it fits in viable builds without a hard tradeoff? can warrior finally becomes a different option to guard when it comes to team stab? Team stab? Maybe not. Able to push things off point that like to emit blind aoes? Maybe. It may not fit in viable builds that currently exist, but it might create a few that were shut down by things like d/p DD and cpc necro. Edited August 3, 2022 by Azure The Heartless.3261 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, CalmTheStorm.2364 said: I think Banner of Tactics is great. Very excited to see how I can make use of it. BoDefense is ok; on drop effct is fantastic but I'm not sold that regen will be that impactful. Banners of Strength and discipline seem very underwhelming, and I struggle to think of where they might be used (except to get the quickness from DS, of course). I think those should probably get some love to bring them up to Banner of Tactics' level. I did some tests on healing Bladesworn and the Banner of Defense outstrips the gains from a third shout. The barrier alone is equal to two casts and then you get Regen on top of it, pretty good. Of course you lose the utility from that shout (usually Vulnerability from On My Mark). Warrior lost banner-applied Regeneration because of Healing Signet, so this opens up some new tanky builds similar to what we used to have on old Warrior before the nerfs. Edited August 3, 2022 by Mariyuuna.6508 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Marshal.4098 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Sounds viable only in sidenodding. In WvW a teammate of mine was fighting a warrior who was bunkering on banners and playing condi and i just told him to put a well of corruption on his banners. The result was comical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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