[WvW] State of Banners?

[Zsoak.5409]

Anyone found any success yet using the new banners in WvW?

Maybe some support build with Tactics and Defense banners for superspeed / stab / barrier / aegis?

Or even Strength banner for the ranged Daze, or Discipline banner for ranged immob with leg specialist?

Edited August 10, 2022 by Zsoak.5409

[Grand Marshal.4098]

Well, from my tests that I had...Banners are as forgettable as they used to bem, but more practical I suppose. 

Drop range is too low, on-cast boons restricted to the banner field are dumb (except for chinese meta stacking gaming) and the banners themselves are eh...

With no banner in the heal slot, there is too much competition for 3 util slots between banners and at least one shout. 

Battle standard is still the staple for DPS builds, especially Zerker. There is nothing else to use it for otherwise. Rez/Stomp can be fight-deciding, for better or worse.

Banner of discipline definitely the worst, bad boons, mediocre effect, might use it on some core condi builds. Still much to be desired. It can't even work as a trap, which is what makes aoe condi fields strong in ranger for example.

Banner of Strength has it's use. But not in SpB builds. Those are already maxed out on strips and support.

A core phalanx warrior with might share capability can use banner of strength for a ranged heal (it does heal you from range when it pulses on allies even if you are not on the field yourself) and has an ok daze to rupt some enemies. You can easily pick anything else tho, between Frenzy and FGJ etc.

As for a support warrior, those can only work in skirmish scenarios where any support is better than no support (aka SM/Keep fights) or when you already have a capable squad with roles and you can focus on keeping your party alive that may lack a dedicated support at the cost of strips (if core, but even SpB cannot rly focus on strips when it's supporting as a main support, not a bystanding cleanser/healer).

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PKAFk0FbYZBsPmHDjRinu06yG-e

Think something like that, where you can swap out Defense for Spellbreaker (with Guard Counter, Loss Aversion and Revenge Counter), with full minstrel and some rune of the water or monk. That's about it.

[eXruina.4956]

not for solo roaming.

[Lighter.5631]

not used everywhere, bad and deleted.

the latest change was just for "show"

[DanAlcedo.3281]

Tested it and went straight back to playing mesmer. 

600 range is soooooo bad. 

Also, cool. 2 new utility skills. That doesn't make the rest of Warrior better. 

Warrior simly doesn't offer anything special. 

Same old same old. Why play X when you can play Y. 

[Zekent.3652]

As secondary stab it works. Outside of that, firebrande is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better, has a lot of ways and resources to give team stab.

[King Sora XIII.3680]

when traiting double standards the quickness duration is 'supposed to increase' it doesnt it pulses only 3seconds instead of the 'traited 8s' we're supposed to get big sad though i have a great build on BS and SB for that 

[Dahkeus.8243]

Yea, banners are good.  At least Tactics and Battle Standard are.  I don't think you'll be wanting to run a utility bar full of them, but Banner of Tactics at the least is a very solid choice. 

 

Tactics is basically a ranged "Stand Your Ground" with Superspeed and a pulsing Resistance.  It's not instant and it's not a stunbreak, but that's not really a big deal since it's something to be used proactively rather than reactively anyways. 

 

Battle Standard is still a solid choice, but not really in any different way than it was before.

 

I don't think the banner changes have made a huge impact to WvW, but the Tactics banner at least is worth a spot on the utility bar of just about any warrior build in an organized group setting, so that's still a buff overall imo.

Edited August 11, 2022 by Dahkeus.8243