Could we have a new elite skill, please?

[tyrellian.3706]

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/121353-october-4-balance-update-preview/page/26/#comment-1766075

 

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* Sneak Gyro: Reduced stealth duration from 1.5 seconds to 1 second in WvW only. Reduced number of pulses from 6 to 3 in WvW only. This skill is no longer a smoke field in WvW only. This skill now plays a visual indicator to enemies on activation.

 

Most of us understand why WvW heal-scrapper is getting nerfed, and that sneak gyro needed adjusting.

But this is burying it six feet under.

 

3 seconds, no smoke, a visual tell and a 60s CD?  That's worse than every other stealth skill in the game.  Even toss elixir S beats that.

This is not an elite skill anymore.

 

If you're going to make it that bad then, honestly, just remove it and replace it with something worth taking.  Something that could actually be called elite.

[Noah Salazar.5430]

3s is ok

I wuld reduce cd to 45s cuz no smoke field, or add adional 1s if 3s will be not inaf for less skilled players

 

Still better then 1s of stealth after leaving stationary gyro witchout blasting

 

Also, as roaming scrapper, pls don't remove it or repace, i'm still will using it to engage and disengage fights

 

If you want replace Elit skill, replace Elixir X with any elit that do dmg 

Edited September 27, 2022 by Noah Salazar.5430

[Lynx.9058]

2 hours ago, tyrellian.3706 said:

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/121353-october-4-balance-update-preview/page/26/#comment-1766075

 

 

Most of us understand why WvW heal-scrapper is getting nerfed, and that sneak gyro needed adjusting.

But this is burying it six feet under.

 

3 seconds, no smoke, a visual tell and a 60s CD?  That's worse than every other stealth skill in the game.  Even toss elixir S beats that.

This is not an elite skill anymore.

 

If you're going to make it that bad then, honestly, just remove it and replace it with something worth taking.  Something that could actually be called elite.

ten bucks says a dev had a bad experience fighting in WvW and blamed it on the scrapper stealth gyro, and now we're here with this BS change.

Charzooka is better than sneak gyro now -_-

[Noah Salazar.5430]

2 minutes ago, Lynx.9058 said:

ten bucks says a dev had a bad experience fighting in WvW and blamed it on the scrapper stealth gyro, and now we're here with this BS change.

Charzooka is better than sneak gyro now -_-

it was propably me, sorry i killed 15 ppl group solo once with a help of keep guard

Edited September 27, 2022 by Noah Salazar.5430

[Alcatraznc.3869]

I agree stealth gyro is now underwhelming if not garbage for an elite skill.

 

But the less stealth WvW has the better. Stealth as a mechanis is unfun and broken

[cat.8975]

15 hours ago, Lynx.9058 said:

ten bucks says a dev had a bad experience fighting in WvW and blamed it on the scrapper stealth gyro, and now we're here with this BS change.

This change is targeted at its performance within larger groups, actually. There's a reason this is a WvW nerf and not a PvP/PvE one. Support Scrapper having the ability to setup stealth bombs on top of everything else it does was too much.

[SleepyBat.9034]

What if Stealth Gyro gave 3 seconds of stealth to allies but 6 seconds to the Scrapper?

[Jerus.4350]

3 hours ago, cat.8975 said:

This change is targeted at its performance within larger groups, actually. There's a reason this is a WvW nerf and not a PvP/PvE one. Support Scrapper having the ability to setup stealth bombs on top of everything else it does was too much.

Fully agree, but, 3s of stealth on an Elite skill is sad.  Would love if down the road it got a little something else tacked on for just WvW, but make it something more in line with what they want Scrapper to be.  If the scope of what Scrapper could/can do is the problem, that's cool, but maybe we could get some initial superspeed on Sneak Gyro?  So then it becomes a solid engage/disengage tool, but no more of that running around with stealth for 20s.  Or something else, but again 3s of stealth as the grand total of what you get from your Elite skill just feels bad.