All-Thief Raids

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ECK thief community is running all-thief raids. We'll be updating the boss strategies here, as well as when the events will occur. 

 

Completed

Vale Guardian

Gorseval

 

Latest video

 

Planned Event

Sabetha (Scheduled for Early Jun 23)

Wing 3 Escort (Scheduled for Jul 23)


The next event will be Gorseval and Sabetha. Any ideas on how to clear the raid are welcome. 

If you want more information on how to take part, join the ECK community discord or PM me for more information.

 

Players on the ECK community discord will be prioritised. Videos will be posted for future references as well. 

Edited May 19, 2023 by xellink.7568

[Blood Red Arachnid.2493]

With Gorseval, the only real obstacle I can think of are going to be the walking spirits while phasing.  In wing 3 I had a custom Deadeye build that I used for back-Warg that could do the trick.  It's.... basically just rifle deadeye, but with Devourer Venom instead of the signet.  By using Spotter's Shot or Bola Shot and the venom, it is possible for 1 deadeye to lock down one of the spirits indefinitely. You'll need at least two, assigned to two different spirits, to lock them down while everyone else prioritizes killing the other two spirits.  Then again, if it is possible to shoot through Gorsey you might be able to just pierce through him, locking down all spirits simultaneously.  

[ZeroTheRuler.7415]

2 hours ago, Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:

With Gorseval, the only real obstacle I can think of are going to be the walking spirits while phasing.  In wing 3 I had a custom Deadeye build that I used for back-Warg that could do the trick.  It's.... basically just rifle deadeye, but with Devourer Venom instead of the signet.  By using Spotter's Shot or Bola Shot and the venom, it is possible for 1 deadeye to lock down one of the spirits indefinitely. You'll need at least two, assigned to two different spirits, to lock them down while everyone else prioritizes killing the other two spirits.  Then again, if it is possible to shoot through Gorsey you might be able to just pierce through him, locking down all spirits simultaneously.  

We are planning on doing the sub 1, sub 2 split method.

Also seal area can also be used too for spirits, but if at least 2 condi builds take "Devourer Venom" it might help as well.

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Create an area that blocks projectiles and prevents enemies from entering or leaving for 8s.

It probably will be a blast! You are welcome to join :D. We need a few more if you are able.

Edited May 10, 2023 by ZeroTheRuler.7415

[xellink.7568]

5 hours ago, Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:

With Gorseval, the only real obstacle I can think of are going to be the walking spirits while phasing.  In wing 3 I had a custom Deadeye build that I used for back-Warg that could do the trick.  It's.... basically just rifle deadeye, but with Devourer Venom instead of the signet.  By using Spotter's Shot or Bola Shot and the venom, it is possible for 1 deadeye to lock down one of the spirits indefinitely. You'll need at least two, assigned to two different spirits, to lock them down while everyone else prioritizes killing the other two spirits.  Then again, if it is possible to shoot through Gorsey you might be able to just pierce through him, locking down all spirits simultaneously.  

 

The eggs as well, so being able to keep the last spirit down indefinitely is good while we snipe off the eggs. Having a clean arena also eases access to the updrafts, which I hope will not be required. 

[Blood Red Arachnid.2493]

9 hours ago, ZeroTheRuler.7415 said:

We are planning on doing the sub 1, sub 2 split method.

Also seal area can also be used too for spirits, but if at least 2 condi builds take "Devourer Venom" it might help as well.

It probably will be a blast! You are welcome to join :D. We need a few more if you are able.

Are you sure?  Last I checked Seal Area counts as a hard CC, which the spirits are immune to.  A series of well timed Thousand Needles can also lock them down for 3 seconds each, but that requires more coordination and tighter timing.

[ZeroTheRuler.7415]

33 minutes ago, Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:

Are you sure?  Last I checked Seal Area counts as a hard CC, which the spirits are immune to.  A series of well timed Thousand Needles can also lock them down for 3 seconds each, but that requires more coordination and tighter timing.

I haven't tried it myself, but this part of the skill would make me think it should "prevents enemies from entering or leaving." If it doesn't work this way then it sounds like a bug to me.

Edit: also thanks, good reminder on thousand needles.

Edited May 10, 2023 by ZeroTheRuler.7415

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Thousand needles work, 5s if you have sufficient expertise, i do this regularly. don't really need coordination, it hits a super large area, put it near the boss. 

 

also since we are using sword 2 spam healers, that already solves the issue, there's even enough time to clear the whole arena of eggs. 

[Vidit.7108]

On 5/9/2023 at 9:52 PM, Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:

With Gorseval, the only real obstacle I can think of are going to be the walking spirits while phasing.

It shouldn't be, a condi specter can chill (sc/d 3) and cripple (d4) and then immobilize at 50%. Frankly if 10 thieves can't stop them they have bigger problems than stopping the spirits.

[Blood Red Arachnid.2493]

7 hours ago, Vidit.7108 said:

It shouldn't be, a condi specter can chill (sc/d 3) and cripple (d4) and then immobilize at 50%. Frankly if 10 thieves can't stop them they have bigger problems than stopping the spirits.

The problem is that those are single target, have a short bouncing range, and aren't nearly as strong as immobilize is.  The main issue with an all thief raid is a lack of quickness on most fights, cutting group DPS by anywhere from 30% to 50%.  Even under cripple the walking spirits can pose a serious threat due to this.  It is why I recommended using a rifle deadeye to lock down one or two of the spirits permanently with Spotter's Shot.  

[Lithril Ashwalker.6230]

On 5/10/2023 at 12:52 AM, Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:

With Gorseval, the only real obstacle I can think of are going to be the walking spirits while phasing.  In wing 3 I had a custom Deadeye build that I used for back-Warg that could do the trick.  It's.... basically just rifle deadeye, but with Devourer Venom instead of the signet.  By using Spotter's Shot or Bola Shot and the venom, it is possible for 1 deadeye to lock down one of the spirits indefinitely. You'll need at least two, assigned to two different spirits, to lock them down while everyone else prioritizes killing the other two spirits.  Then again, if it is possible to shoot through Gorsey you might be able to just pierce through him, locking down all spirits simultaneously.  

dont for get surprise shot from shortbow on deadeye 1 stealth attack, itll splinter and immobilize the higher malice, STACKS with devourer venom too, buy some time.

[xellink.7568]

i think the sword 2 spam healers are sufficient, throwing out 2s immob per shadowstep, plus thousand needles only if really really needed. Lets not overthink the easiest component of the fight. I hope to keep them alive to allow eggs to be wiped off the map. So we can just pure DPS gorse last phase no updrafts.

 

we can go with 8 DPS and 2 alac heals.

 

this is going to be easy. with or without quickness.

[Lithril Ashwalker.6230]

1 hour ago, xellink.7568 said:

i think the sword 2 spam healers are sufficient, throwing out 2s immob per shadowstep, plus thousand needles only if really really needed. Lets not overthink the easiest component of the fight. I hope to keep them alive to allow eggs to be wiped off the map. So we can just pure DPS gorse last phase no updrafts.

 

we can go with 8 DPS and 2 alac heals.

 

this is going to be easy. with or without quickness.

just make sure you do the slow CC for optimum DPS and blow CC last minute to get in more dps

[ZeroTheRuler.7415]

We had a kill tonight after a few tries and tweaks. A video will be incoming from several POVs.

[Lithril Ashwalker.6230]

 

 

Edited May 13, 2023 by Lithril Ashwalker.6230

[xellink.7568]

Thanks and well done. I will do a commentary video as well.

[xellink.7568]

Discussions are now open for Sabetha and Wing 3 Escort which are the next planned All-thief Raid events.

[ZeroTheRuler.7415]

23 hours ago, xellink.7568 said:

Discussions are now open for Sabetha and Wing 3 Escort which are the next planned All-thief Raid events.

I would like to see us try the first 3 bosses in W4 too.