magickthief.6492 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 No ammo skills. 1 skill, 1 cooldown. Unless you want to put everyone on a resource, like initiative. 3 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 And why? An explanation would we nice to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferus.3165 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 what really has to be done is remove the initiative system from thief and give it proper cds. E.g. 12 sec cd on Head Shot because it is similiar to dagger 3 from warrior and something like 15 sec cd on Black Powder. The skills could then be buffed if they'd be too weak or maybe given some ammo. Give everyone initiative would be the worst possible scenario for this game. Everyone would just spam the same skills over and over again. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Ferus.3165 said: what really has to be done is remove the initiative system from thief and give it proper cds. E.g. 12 sec cd on Head Shot because it is similiar to dagger 3 from warrior and something like 15 sec cd on Black Powder. The skills could then be buffed if they'd be too weak or maybe given some ammo. Give everyone initiative would be the worst possible scenario for this game. Everyone would just spam the same skills over and over again. it's fine, it's how thief is made and functions. Don't make it like everything else 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, arazoth.7290 said: it's fine, it's how thief is made and functions. Don't make it like everything else If the same skill is use 3 or more times it should go into cool down for fairness. Being hits with 3 heartseekers in a row is kinda bullshiii 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Eddbopkins.2630 said: If the same skill is use 3 or more times it should go into cool down for fairness. Being hits with 3 heartseekers in a row is kinda bullshiii getting hit by 1, oke. Getting hit by 2 others and you're basicly not reacting and standing afk. You have many defensives, counterpressure, blinds, dodges. If you let them spam 3 it's your fault. And if you have no defensives, counterpressure, blinds, dodges left or whatever then you are outplayed and hit when vulnerable and could have been killed by anything 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, arazoth.7290 said: getting hit by 1, oke. Getting hit by 2 others and you're basicly not reacting and standing afk. You have many defensives, counterpressure, blinds, dodges. If you let them spam 3 it's your fault. And if you have no defensives, counterpressure, blinds, dodges left or whatever then you are outplayed and hit when vulnerable and could have been killed by anything Most off the time its from a cc from another class then the thf would sneakin from invis and pop 3 heartseekers in a row. You thinking to literally of a situation. In a 1v1 situation ur right who in the hell hi heaven would. Stand still and eat 3 of them and not even dodge or defensive or invuln one of them? Like did I really have to go so low to explain the basics? Edited October 25, 2023 by Eddbopkins.2630 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Eddbopkins.2630 said: Most off the time its from a cc from another class then the thf would sneakin from invis and pop 3 heartseekers in a row. You thinking to literally of a situation. In a 1v1 situation ur right who in the hell hi heaven would. Stand still and eat 3 of them and not even dodge or defensive or invuln one of them? Like did I really have to go so low to explain the basics? If you were ccd, then everyone could have done that in that amount if time whoever has stealth or can teleport of enough ranged 1 shot. I could go on core revenant teleport on you and 1 shot if you're ccd too 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeRetroHunter.7684 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 7 hours ago, Ferus.3165 said: what really has to be done is remove the initiative system from thief and give it proper cds. E.g. 12 sec cd on Head Shot because it is similiar to dagger 3 from warrior and something like 15 sec cd on Black Powder. The skills could then be buffed if they'd be too weak or maybe given some ammo. Give everyone initiative would be the worst possible scenario for this game. Everyone would just spam the same skills over and over again. Mechanics like initiative are cooldowns…it’s just dressed up and wrapped in a bow tie so you don’t notice. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endorphin.9147 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 If you were ccd long enough for 3 entire heartseeker animation to go though. I dont think it was heartseeker that was the problem... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, Endorphin.9147 said: If you were ccd long enough for 3 entire heartseeker animation to go though. I dont think it was heartseeker that was the problem... that's what I was trying to tell too 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkchopMCgee.6193 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Eddbopkins.2630 said: Most off the time its from a cc from another class then the thf would sneakin from invis and pop 3 heartseekers in a row. You thinking to literally of a situation. In a 1v1 situation ur right who in the hell hi heaven would. Stand still and eat 3 of them and not even dodge or defensive or invuln one of them? Like did I really have to go so low to explain the basics? Wait, are you saying, necros have invuln and can invuln out of stuff of that sorts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, porkchopMCgee.6193 said: Wait, are you saying, necros have invuln and can invuln out of stuff of that sorts. They do have 2 health bars. If you don't keep it charged for moments like that well........ But you right you don't got any other way Edited October 25, 2023 by Eddbopkins.2630 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkchopMCgee.6193 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Eddbopkins.2630 said: They do have 2 health bars. If you don't keep it charged for moments like that well........ But you right you don't got any other way Ah here we go "2health bars"... The most useless argument 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marckan.9526 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 On 10/25/2023 at 8:56 AM, Ferus.3165 said: Everyone would just spam the same skills over and over again. Spanming one skill depending on which scenario is honestly more interesting than spamming all your skills all of the time like PvE in GW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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