Lina.1327 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Do the elder dragons and other villains all have some type of preacher? Balthazar has the Zaishen, but would Zhaitan or any other villain have something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenom.9457 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Mostly no, Balthazar did because he was a god and humans used things like priests and avatars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Ansari.1604 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 In a sense, you can count the dragon's minions as preachers. It's rare, but there were a few cases where risen were extolling the virtues of eternal life under Zhaitan's yoke, and the mordrem had that whole 'he is the world' thing. And Joko, of course, has worshipers and preachers everywhere. Raze Praise Joko! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lina.1327 Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 @Aaron Ansari.1604 said:In a sense, you can count the dragon's minions as preachers. It's rare, but there were a few cases where risen were extolling the virtues of eternal life under Zhaitan's yoke, and the mordrem had that whole 'he is the world' thing. And Joko, of course, has worshipers and preachers everywhere. Raze Praise Joko! yes... praise joko... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yereton.8647 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Well, I guess you could consider the Son's of Svanir as a religious cult (or the norn equivalent), with the shamans being the preachers of Jormag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcemus.1348 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 @Yereton.8647 said:Well, I guess you could consider the Son's of Svanir as a religious cult (or the norn equivalent), with the shamans being the preachers of Jormag.There are definitely a few times we see Sons trying to convert other Norn in the early story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffball.8307 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 The dragon's don't need preachers, they just corrupt whatever they want.Balthazar probably didn't care one way or the other about who was following him, he just occasionally needed meat to throw at things.Joko and the svanir need people advocating for them for obvious reasons.Edit: The Nightmare Court and the Inquest could both also be considered cults I suppose, and have people out recruiting all the time in the early areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercury ranique.2170 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Recently I talked about the difference between demons and minions. God’s needs followers. People who choose to follow them. With bad gods we tend to call them demons. They Obey their masters with an intelligence (though might be forced in doing so) Dragons have minions that are created by their masters and have no choice at all. There is no resisting. Two types are interested. The forged are minions to a god. They are created by them (special awakened). This is due to Balthasar using Joko’s techniques to raise his army. The second are silvari who are minions, but can choose to ignore the call. This is due to influence of the mother tree and the tablet of ventari.Side note: the pale tree was using her way to influence some silvari to not answer mordremoths call. Glint was purified from being a (very powerful minion) by the forgotten. So minions can be freed from their masters grasp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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