Rezzet.3614 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 its been what ? 7 years since turrets got turned unfairly uselessat least explain to us the justification for them being so useless vs everyone else's minionsi will point out why the mega nerf was unfair heres the factors when the nerf was implemented:condition+precision was becoming the new meta some smart rare cases ran carrion but most ran rabid gear thus most the complaints came from this players because turrets were uncritable and imune to condi wich hard countered rabid gear entirely bunker gear was available in pvp and heal scaling was way too high back then so engineers all ran full condi bunker with cc spam and turrets the nerf:Turrets had their armor removedturrets had their 50% damage resistance trait removedturrets became vulnerable to crit and conditionsbunker gear got removedheal scaling got lowered by about 50%turret overcharge got removedthe problem : turrets not only became vulnerable to crits and conditions they lost the flat 50% damage resistance also lost the 20-25% damage reduction from armor turrets were not compensated in anyway to make up for the nerfturrets had their overcharges removed turrets are outdated and useless for the most part , flame turret only applies 2s burn thus it applies no pressure BECAUSE DEVS FORGOT THEY REWORKED THE BURN CONDITION from Duration Stacking into INTENSITY Stacking , the overcharge is nice but useless cuz it only happens once, rifle turret and rocket turrets are about the only balanced turrets thumper turret needs 120 more radius if you ask me(give the last 120 radius 50% less damage and cripple duration)supply drop is useless because of how frail turrets are as well as how laughably weak they are offensively(maybe give it more turrets and wider radius , another rifle turret and a thumper would be nice , that way if enemy ignores them they take decent damage or if they stay in the zone they get crippled to oblivion .)elite specs blow them out of the water anywaysand because of power creep+ bunker nerfs even if turrets were reverted to launch version the engineer would remain squishy as hecc maybe revamp the turret boon trait give them shorter cooldown shorter boon duration and 10 target limit on 600 radius that way it can properly support team mates specially in wvw where engi is lacking most would be nice givin more than 3 allies protection and retaliation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisii.8317 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just bring back turret explosion knock back please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugglemonkey.8741 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Every time I see threads like this I remember why I stopped playing engi. It's barely the same class that it was in vanilla, and it's frustrating since it had so many cool things going for it at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobber.6348 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 They could also combine all Turrets into a Turret kit, and I'm allowed to poop out turrets without having to sacrifice multiple utility slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaith.8256 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 We'll see what happens next month. There's 900 skill changes coming.Just my 2c on it: We need serious functionality reworks on Turrets before they can be un-nerfed.Turret builds when they had their day were the lowest common denominator, a true inbred specialization.Personally wishing Turrets are reworked in how they contribute so they're not permanent auto-attacking fixtures. Instead, powerful overcharge usages that relies on timing and positioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambi.6214 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 @Chaith.8256 said:We'll see what happens next month. There's 900 skill changes coming.Just my 2c on it: We need serious functionality reworks on Turrets before they can be un-nerfed.Turret builds when they had their day were the lowest common denominator, a true inbred specialization.Personally wishing Turrets are reworked in how they contribute so they're not permanent auto-attacking fixtures. Instead, powerful overcharge usages that relies on timing and positioning.Aye. Maybe something along current Spirit Weapons but maybe less powerful and longer-lasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 @Chaith.8256 said:We'll see what happens next month. There's 900 skill changes coming.899 nerfs to engineer because purity of purpose and 1 tooltip update to accurately reflect the amount of stealth on thief skills, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzet.3614 Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 @Dawdler.8521 said:@"Chaith.8256" said:We'll see what happens next month. There's 900 skill changes coming.899 nerfs to engineer because purity of purpose and 1 tooltip update to accurately reflect the amount of stealth on thief skills, no doubt.yeah my favorite part was how Several of the "changes" were Nerfs to CORE Engineer in all game modes to balance out HOLOSMITH in PVP . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepenmonster.3621 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Yeah, I want turrets to be immobile pets. Do it, Anet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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