Quadox.7834 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Currently we have this layout:Bountiful Blades.................Shattered Concentration.........Vicious ExpressionEmpowered Illusions..........Egotism...................................Mental AnguishRending Shatter.................Furious Interruption.................Power BlockThis layout forces you to choose between traits that synergize and is sort of "all over the place". Compare to a traitline like Chronomancer, where the top row is for slow and disable, middle row is for shatters and bottom row is for phantasms and support. Would it thus not make more sense to rearrange Domination to something like this:Rending Shatter.................Shattered Concentration.........Mental AnguishEmpowered Illusions..........Egotism...................................Bountiful BladesVicious Expression.............Furious Interruption.................Power BlockAll we have done is switch positions of bountiful blades and vicious expression, then aligning the traits in the row that makes thematic sense. The top row is for shatters, the middle row is for phantasms, and the bottom row is related to CC.EDIT alternative to allow PvErs to still run Vicious Expression and Empowered Illusions together:Rending Shatter.................Shattered Concentration.........Mental AnguishEmpowered Illusions..........Egotism...................................Bountiful BladesPower Block.......................Furious Interruption.................Vicious Expression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Empowered Illusions and Vicious Expression on same tier = PvE Mesmer is even more dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Bountiful Blades is pretty trash for a GM.But your traitlist makes a lot more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 @Lincolnbeard.1735 said:Bountiful Blades is pretty trash for a GM.But your traitlist makes a lot more sense.Yeah but mostly because berserker in general is pretty bad (traiter zerker does less dmg than untraited pistol phantasm), and because mirror blade is bugged so it does no dmg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 @Tayga.3192 said:Empowered Illusions and Vicious Expression on same tier = PvE Mesmer is even more deadGo for mental anguish, not that bad right? Vicious expression has only existed for 1 week after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICENIKESHOE.7128 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 @Quadox.7834 said:@Tayga.3192 said:Empowered Illusions and Vicious Expression on same tier = PvE Mesmer is even more deadGo for mental anguish, not that bad right? Vicious expression has only existed for 1 week after all.PvE rely more on persistent dps modifier in Vicious expression rather than consumable bursts that mental anguish targets. Fortunately despite the nerf we had on GS trait we have this new trait to boost dps and compete with all other 38k+ dps in other classes from 25/2/20 patch (even post nerf).That's not to say you can't satisfy both scenarios though, simply arrange like this and you have a rearranged theme that still have good dps and PvP presence, while fitting its position:Furious Interruption........Power Block.........Vicious ExpressionFurious interruption is clearly just adept tier at this stage in game with the power creeps, as you require interrupt and you only generate enough quickness for the ICD.Power block with its non-crit damage on interrupt now probably more fitting on master trait, though some can still argue its overloaded with the weakness/CD increase.Vicious expression is much more likely to be a GM trait than power block since it removes boon on any CC, not just interrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 @NICENIKESHOE.7128 said:@Quadox.7834 said:@Tayga.3192 said:Empowered Illusions and Vicious Expression on same tier = PvE Mesmer is even more deadGo for mental anguish, not that bad right? Vicious expression has only existed for 1 week after all.PvE rely more on persistent dps modifier in Vicious expression rather than consumable bursts that mental anguish targets. Fortunately despite the nerf we had on GS trait we have this new trait to boost dps and compete with all other 38k+ dps in other classes from 25/2/20 patch (even post nerf).That's not to say you can't satisfy both scenarios though, simply arrange like this and you have a rearranged theme that still have good dps and PvP presence, while fitting its position:Furious Interruption........Power Block.........Vicious ExpressionFurious interruption is clearly just adept tier at this stage in game with the power creeps, as you require interrupt and you only generate enough quickness for the ICD.Power block with its non-crit damage on interrupt now probably more fitting on master trait, though some can still argue its overloaded with the weakness/CD increase.Vicious expression is much more likely to be a GM trait than power block since it removes boon on any CC, not just interrupt.Fair enough. Though I personally hope they wouldn't do that because then power block and shattered concentration will compete which sucks for pvp.Maybe Power Block.........Furious Interruption........Vicious Expression otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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