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Updated: List of GW2 Pet Peeves (Crafting, notably)

Eidolonemesis.5640Eidolonemesis.5640 Member ✭✭✭
edited December 10, 2017 in Guild Wars 2 Discussion

1. Crafting: (Two edits have been made to this request. Scroll down to read the other edit)

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EDIT: In addition to all the below stated, why is the maximum number of Additional Crafting Licenses for any character set to 4 instead of 9 total? What is the difference if those licenses are split up to be on one, two, or three different characters? Just have them be able to be mastered on one and all! We should not have to split our access up to our mastered disciplines between 2-3 characters. That is not effective or convenient at all. And for those who want to level their other characters through crafting, scroll down to read more.
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Let’s take a look at the Additional Crafting License item in the Gem Store. It reads: Increase the number of active crafting disciplines all characters on your account can have at once time (by 4, to be exact).

This is what the above translates to: Your number of active disciplines is increased globally across all character, yet progression of each Crafting discipline is not global, meaning in order to have access to all your Crafting disciplines, you must master them on THREE different characters. That's right, 4 Additional Crafting Licenses = requiring two different characters + 1 more Additional Crafting License we are not allowed for Scribe = requiring three different characters. And to have access to all Crafting disciplines on different characters? You must master them all over again!

Why has this not been addressed? Why make players spend more Gold (buying their way to master their Crafting disciplines) or more time farming materials from scratch to have the same Crafting disciplines we already have mastered on the character(s) we mastered them on first?

It is not like there is more money to be made off Additional Crafting Licenses from the Gem Store for reason being you can only buy a certain amount, with or without the solution below.

Here is a solution:

All Crafting Discipline progression (and upon being mastered) should be made global across all characters for convenience purposes. Players simply go on their main character, anyway, who have access to all their mastered disciplines, yet who wants to re-log to their main character, or re-log on other characters with different Crafting disciplines? It limits Crafting discipline access.

For example, when any character who is taught to be a Huntsman contributes to mastering Huntsman, the progression is global, and upon mastering it, the mastered discipline Huntsman is available to all characters, even to characters who choose the option ‘Please teach me to be a Huntsman’ for the first time from the Master Huntsman NPC.

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EDIT: For players who DO NOT want to make their mastered disciplines global across all characters, because they want to use crafting for leveling their other characters, THEN upon mastering a discipline from any one character on a players' account, Anet can implement a dialogue box that asks the player, "Would you like for this mastered discipline to be mastered across all characters? Warning: Mastering a discipline across all characters means you cannot level your other characters from Crafting."

And if the players clicks 'Yes', another dialogue box appears asking, "Are you absolutely sure you want to master this discipline across all characters?" and if the player clicks 'Yes' again, then it is done. However, if the player clicks 'No', then the mastered discipline will only be mastered for that character alone.
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With the above being said in mind, the materials we farm required to master Crafting disciplines are global. They are global for a reason, so each character we play can contribute to farming the materials required to master our Crafting disciplines.

Therefore, why can it not be the same for Crafting discipline mastery progression no matter what character we choose to be taught any Crafting discipline? The current system, again, limits Crafting discipline access and forces players into mastering their Crafting disciplines on one character vs. having all characters contribute as one, just as they do with farmed materials.

2. You implemented Mounts, and Mount Racing, yet you forgot PvP for Mounts: Jousting Events! Mounts + some form of Mount PvP Event = WIN

@Bloodstealer.5978 said:
Where would this mount pvp take place.. are you expecting specific maps, instances, guild hall arena's?.. personally I would prefer ANET to spend resource fixing and improving the current in game systems, process and bug before they put 1 ounce of thought into this "I want, I want."

Absolutely not. There would not be a bunch of maps dedicated to Mount Jousting Events. Let's call them that. Mount Jousting would instead take place on a single battleground, that, unlike Mount Racing, would not require players to go all over the map, any map, to participate in the Mount Jousting Event.

Far as where the Mount Jousting Event would take place, it would only make sense to have it take place somewhere in the Crystal Desert.

3. Storage issue with Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments, and Pieces of Candy Corn:

EDIT: Oh, and let's add Pieces of Candy Corn to the list of most-accumulated consumable items, too, since the release of the Candy Corn Gobbler feeder, that, by the way, can be used as many times you want to gain boons. But why, you ask, would I request the stack size of Pieces of Candy Corn be 20,000 just like what I initially proposed? Simple, to have a big stock, of course, all in one place!

The number of accumulated, easy-to-get Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments, and Pieces of Candy Corn is crippling our Bank Storage!

Here is a solution:

Make the default storage space for Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments, and Pieces of Candy Corn 2,500 (10 stacks worth), and for players wanting more space than that, they can purchase the Storage Expander item from the Gem Store.

However, the Storage Expander text would need to be changed to: Double-click to increase the maximum stack size of all stored materials by 250. Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments, and Pieces of Candy Corn are increased by 2,500.

Furthermore, players whose accounts already have the maximum number of Storage Expanders would be granted the new increased storage space to Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments, and Pieces of Candy Corn (as they should be).

And players whose accounts do not have the maximum number of Storage Expanders would have the default space for Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments, and Pieces of Candy Corn increased to the default stack size of 2,500 instead of a default stack size of 250.

The number 2,500 works perfect because 8 Storage Expanders bought from the Gem Store = a 20,000 stack size for Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments, and Pieces of Candy Corn just like for all other materials = a 2,000 stack size (when buying 8 Storage Expanders).

4. Why are no points given to players for logging in every 7 days?

Every 7 days (1 week) we log in, players should be given 1 points to their account on the 7th day (52 weeks in a year = 52 points).

Why not? Don’t you want players to stay more tuned in than they already are?

5. Why won’t your sound team implement new instruments in the Gem Store? (EDIT made near the end of this suggestions)

There are clearly many players into the in-game instruments, even whole Guilds dedicated to playing music, my Guild included.

Why not add a Violin, an Acoustic Guitar (for a different, clearer tone than the quiet Lute), and a Piano in the Gem Store with 1 Skill Bar that has 16 Skills per Octave, 8 Skills for Majors, and 8 Skills in between for Sharps? And why not a 4th Octave for the Harp and Lute?

The Majors can be mapped with numbers (using either the top-row numbers or the Num Pad), and the Sharps can be mapped with F1 keys like so:

1 [F1] 2 [F2] 3 [F3] 4 [F4] 5 [F5] 6 [F6] 7 [F7] 8 [F8] 9

Each number represents a Major (except 9 to change Octaves), and each [F1] bracket represents a Sharp.

That is 16 Skill Slots total. Why is this so hard to implement? The answer is it is not, that there are more things being prioritized, yet... that is what us musicians have been hearing for almost 3 years now. My argument to that is since Instruments are Gem Store items, and therefore, have the potential to generate money, they should be given a little more attention.

EDIT: So somebody made the short-and-sweet argument, "Yea... a Piano... really portable..." This kind of feedback helps absolutely nothing. Why get technical about what a single character can realistically hold as if this is real life? I guess, then, according to that logic, all the other instruments players are allowed to store in their inventory at once is more portable than a Piano, along with a couple hundred other items in their inventory.

This is a game! So yea, to Anet I say offer us a Piano in the Gem Stor. We have been waiting for almost 3 years now. I am part of two huge musician Guilds, and yes, I personally want access to more instruments. That is only a natural request (not a 'stupid request') from an avid lover of music who tabs it and plays it irl.

Thank you for looking this over.
Valdrimari (Eidolonemesis)

Comments

  • Ayumi Spender.1082Ayumi Spender.1082 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2017

    I always knew that's what it meant.
    That's why I never bought the thing as I just had each one of my characters have 2 crafts and just load into one when I need to craft something on a certain crafting job.

    EDIT: It's like hero points. They're not masteries where it's account related.
    I originally had one of my characters level Tailor until I decided to level it on another. It was at level 0. Left the other tailor to rot on the beginning one.

  • Eidolonemesis.5640Eidolonemesis.5640 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2017

    @Ayumi Spender.1082 said:
    I always knew that's what it meant.
    That's why I never bought the thing as I just had each one of my characters have 2 crafts and just load into one when I need to craft something on a certain crafting job.

    Of course we all know what it means, but in knowing what it means in conjunction with the fact the current system makes no sense for said reasons, I am having a hard time understanding why players are not pushing for said changes in my OP, given the fact Crafting plays a huge role in GW2.

    It is very annoying when you want to craft something that you have to re-log to a different character (be it your main or some other character) just to craft for that discipline over and over again. The idea is to streamline player gameplay where whatever character they used to master their discipline(s) in the first place, those mastered disciplines can then be accessed by all characters on a player's account. The current system just makes for additional work to go to the character select screen more than need be.

  • Ayumi Spender.1082Ayumi Spender.1082 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Eidolonemesis.5640 said:

    @Ayumi Spender.1082 said:
    I always knew that's what it meant.
    That's why I never bought the thing as I just had each one of my characters have 2 crafts and just load into one when I need to craft something on a certain crafting job.

    Of course we all know what it means, but in knowing what it means in conjunction with the fact the current system makes no sense for said reasons, I am having a hard time understanding why players are not pushing for said changes in my OP.

    It is very annoying when you want to craft something that you have to re-log to a different character (be it your main or some other character) just to craft for that discipline over and over again. The idea is to streamline player gameplay where whatever character they used to master any discipline, that mastered discipline can then be accessed by all characters on a player's account. The current system just makes for additional work to go to the character select screen more than need be.

    Oh, I would be for it, but the thing is I won't push for it because I know it could/would never happen.
    This is from the same guys that put a mount behind a 250 gold sink. Each item gave 10 trade credits. That mean 25 gold for 10 trade credits by 10 is just 100 trade credits to simply unlock a mount.

    Then the gold sink to make 32 slot bags and many other things in the game.

    They want the gold sink factor so they would WANT you to... let's say you have 70 characters. They would want you to level the craft 500 times on every single character for every craft.

    I hate that, but I can't see why they would change it when they want the gold sinks.

  • Eidolonemesis.5640Eidolonemesis.5640 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2017

    @Ayumi Spender.1082 said:
    Oh, I would be for it, but the thing is I won't push for it because I know it could/would never happen.
    This is from the same guys that put a mount behind a 250 gold sink. Each item gave 10 trade credits. That mean 25 gold for 10 trade credits by 10 is just 100 trade credits to simply unlock a mount.

    Then the gold sink to make 32 slot bags and many other things in the game.

    They want the gold sink factor so they would WANT you to... let's say you have 70 characters. They would want you to level the craft 500 times on every single character for every craft.

    I hate that, but I can't see why they would change it when they want the gold sinks.

    While what you say is true, to that I say Anet is making more than enough money off charging players 400 Gems per additional Inventory Slot alone, which by the way, are not even globally shared themselves across all characters (and more money from a swathe of other Gem Store items), SO give players a break when it comes to Crafting so that our Crafting disciplines are more accessible.

    Only a fool would sink more Gold into their Crafting than need be just to have access to all their Crafting disciplines across all characters when you can master all your Crafting disciplines on one character! Sure, that sounds like the answer itself and call it a day, yet it is simply not!

    My gripe is being on one particular character that is NOT my main, and not being able to readily Craft something just because my MAIN character had the discipline(s) mastered first. That is complete nonsense, and it does not even make good business sense on Anet's part, because as said, only a fool would invest that much money and time to have access to all disciplines on all characters after they're mastered the first time.

    The only way anything changes is if players petition instead of going off 'Anet will never do this or do that'. Keep fighting it, then, until they do.

    Mastered disciplines need to be globally shared after being mastered the first time. Period.

  • "All Crafting Discipline progression (and upon being mastered) should be made global across all characters for convenience purposes."

    There are people who use crafting disciplines to level up their alts, though (I'm not sure what this number is of course so its probably a minority of players). Personally I used Chef 400 on 3+ characters for the extra ~8-10 levels. Its also not imo a huge deal to go to character select and log in to the correct alt, given that we already do need to halt whatever activity we were engaged in to access crafting stations.

    "The number of accumulated, easy-to-get Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, and Empyreal Fragments is crippling our Bank Storage!"

    While I would welcome an increase in storage slots for these to maybe 2 or 3 stacks, 10 stacks seems too much considering there's already multiple sinks in place for them. Obsidian refinement uses up 100, several easy-to-obtain Eaters are also present.

  • Edds.7681Edds.7681 Member ✭✭

    3 is a problem untill you start using feeders which you can find with achievements and the easy star crystal feeder is coming this winter festival

  • Eidolonemesis.5640Eidolonemesis.5640 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2017

    @mizu.7382 said:
    "All Crafting Discipline progression (and upon being mastered) should be made global across all characters for convenience purposes."

    There are people who use crafting disciplines to level up their alts, though (I'm not sure what this number is of course so its probably a minority of players). Personally I used Chef 400 on 3+ characters for the extra ~8-10 levels. Its also not imo a huge deal to go to character select and log in to the correct alt, given that we already do need to halt whatever activity we were engaged in to access crafting stations.

    "The number of accumulated, easy-to-get Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, and Empyreal Fragments is crippling our Bank Storage!"

    While I would welcome an increase in storage slots for these to maybe 2 or 3 stacks, 10 stacks seems too much considering there's already multiple sinks in place for them. Obsidian refinement uses up 100, several easy-to-obtain Eaters are also present.

    That is a very weak argument. The only players who benefit from leveling off Crafting itself are players who have already played the game well enough to gain the materials and/or gold outright required to Craft in the first place, and even then it is questionable whether or not they are really 'gaining' by leveling any character that way. In fact, it is as far I am concerned, a very dated way to level any character when alternatives prove much better that do not require spending oodles of materials and/or oodles of Gold that can be better spent on other things later on.

    Far as a default stack size of 2,500 goes for Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, and Empyreal Fragments, that is not too much at all! They are extremely easy to get now to the point they do eat up a lot of space, and even using items like Mawdrey, Princess, etc. they can only consume so much. I am at a point now where I accumulate so much Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, and Empyreal Fragments that no amount of 'sinks' are fast enough to use them up quick enough. And 10 stacks is nothing; I have at least 120 stacks of each!

    @Edds.7681 said:
    3 is a problem untill you start using feeders which you can find with achievements and the easy star crystal feeder is coming this winter festival

    As I said in the above stated, all the currently-available 'feeders' in the game are not going to consume 120+ some stacks of Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, and Empyreal Fragments quick enough, because they cannot be repeatedly used in a single day. I receive in a single day far more than what the 'feeders' will consume. That to me is a problem when such items begin to consume your storage space.

  • Cronos.6532Cronos.6532 Member ✭✭✭

    These aren't pet peeves; these are poor feature requests.

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  • Eidolonemesis.5640Eidolonemesis.5640 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2017

    @Cronos.6532 said:
    These aren't pet peeves; these are poor feature requests.

    Pet peeve = something that a particular person finds especially annoying.

    So yes, the fact things like this are not addressed/have not been addressed is a form of 'annoyance'. Waiting for certain things to change for years on end is a form of annoyance. Annoyances come in different forms. Do they not?

    Other than what I said about Crafting in my OP, how is Jousting with Mounts (or the idea of Mount PvP itself), giving players 1 Point every 7 days of logging, more in-game instruments (with more functionality) to entertain other players in-game during downtime, and... upping the default storage space for easy-to-get materials like Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, and Empyreal Fragments POOR?

    Please explain beyond, "Oh, it's not a priority." You are quick to criticize, yet you give no feedback beyond, "This is poor" with no strong counterpoint(s). None of the ideas I have proposed have any bad outcome for the player, and until someone points out otherwise, I cannot take your criticism seriously.

  • ReaverKane.7598ReaverKane.7598 Member ✭✭✭✭

    1) Crafted items aren't soulbound, so what does it matter if you do it one character or another?

    The item is useless, and if you bought it, that was your prerogative. It doesn't mean the system is flawed.
    Also, and because Crafting IS a source of experience for leveling your characters, your suggestion would effectively cripple the ability to progress more characters through crafting after having done so on your first.

    2) Yeah, no...

    3) Oh boy... Do you even Guild Wars?
    Make bricks, starts, etc. Each brick uses up 100. Come back to me when you have filled your material storage with bloodstone bricks and the like.
    Also MAWDREY and friends... If you're unintentionally stacking too much bloodstone dust and the like, you're doing something wrong.

    4) There's already daily login rewards, there's already Daily AP rewards for doing dailies. I don't understand what are you talking about.

    5) Yeah, a piano... That's really portable...

    I have a new pet peeve... All your suggestions.

  • Halan.8951Halan.8951 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 19, 2017

    ..........

  • Yeah these... These are very stupid requests

  • Cerioth.7062Cerioth.7062 Member ✭✭✭

    1) No thank you. I prefer to keep the crafting individual so I can level chef and jeweler on alts and get easy xp.

    2) Eh...no. Fix other issues with PVP first before implementing new stuff.

    3) W...what? Just use the feeders - theres TONS of them and you will get rid of even big stacks of items, trust me. I used to have my bank slots filled with that stuff before feeders, and my storage capacity is 1,250. Plus you can make other things with them.

    1. ... No.

    2. Nice idea but not sure what they'd add honestly.

  • Eidolonemesis.5640Eidolonemesis.5640 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2017

    @ReaverKane.7598 said:
    1) Crafted items aren't soulbound, so what does it matter if you do it one character or another?

    I never said 'Crafted items' themselves were 'soulbound.' Come on. I said that the progression/leveling of disciplines should be made global, that we should not have to split up our mastered discipline access between several different characters, only to have access to 4 at a time instead of 8 (in fact, 9 total as my updated OP near the beginning states).

    @ReaverKane.7598 said:
    The item is useless, and if you bought it, that was your prerogative. It doesn't mean the system is flawed.

    The Additional Crafting License item from the Gem Store is NOT useless, otherwise, you'd have to use/log 4+ different characters to get access to all your mastered disciplines. And the Additional Crafting License item IS flawed. It's called the maximum number of disciplines allowed on any character is 4. Therefore, in order to have access to all your Crafting disciplines, you must master them on THREE different characters. That's right, 4 Additional Crafting Licenses = requiring two different characters + 1 more Additional Crafting License you are not allowed for Scribe = requiring three different characters. And to have access to all Crafting disciplines on different characters? You must master them all over again!

    @ReaverKane.7598 said:
    Also, and because Crafting IS a source of experience for leveling your characters, your suggestion would effectively cripple the ability to progress more characters through crafting after having done so on your first.

    So you know what Anet can do? Upon mastering a discipline from any one character on a players' account, add a dialogue box that asks the player, "Would you like for this mastered discipline to be mastered across all characters? Warning: Mastering a discipline across all characters means you cannot level your other characters from Crafting." and if the players clicks 'Yes', another dialogue box appears asking, "Are you absolutely sure you want to master this discipline across all characters?" and if the player clicks 'Yes' again, then it is done.

    That is a simple, doable fix! Such dialogues and warnings exist in the game already.

    2) Yeah, no...

    Yea, no, why? Because it's not your style, so just no? Maybe the combat can be made down two narrow rows for each player (to keep them within bounds), and when it is time to GO, players run and Joust each other using different skills that point at different locations on the players' body. It can work.

    3) Oh boy... Do you even Guild Wars?
    Make bricks, starts, etc. Each brick uses up 100. Come back to me when you have filled your material storage with bloodstone bricks and the like.
    Also MAWDREY and friends... If you're unintentionally stacking too much bloodstone dust and the like, you're doing something wrong.

    Yea, in fact, I do play the game. I've got 12 different characters 80, half of them 100% map exploration, and on from GW1 I have the GWAMM title. This is not my first rodeo. I have ALL those feeders and I receive more in a single day than all the feeders can eat up, for the simple fact they can only eat up so much of the materials.

    4) There's already daily login rewards, there's already Daily AP rewards for doing dailies. I don't understand what are you talking about.

    What is there not to understand? The point is to reward players just a little more for logging in every 7th day, because some players I've heard from feel the rewards are not rewarding enough.

    5) Yeah, a piano... That's really portable...

    Are you really going to get that technical about what a single character can realistically hold as if this is real life? I guess, then, according to your logic, all the other instruments players are allowed to store in their inventory at once is more portable than a Piano, along with a couple hundred other items. You cannot be serious... This is a game! So yea, to Anet I say give us a Piano. I am part of two huge musician Guilds, and yes, I personally want access to more instruments. That is only a natural request from an avid lover of music who tabs it and plays it irl.

    I have a new pet peeve... All your suggestions.

    And I have a new pet peeve... Fellow players who do not comprehend said suggestions very well and the reason they were proposed in the first place.

  • Eidolonemesis.5640Eidolonemesis.5640 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2017

    @Cerioth.7062 said:
    1) No thank you. I prefer to keep the crafting individual so I can level chef and jeweler on alts and get easy xp.

    Then upon mastering a discipline from any one character on a players' account, add a dialogue box that asks the player, "Would you like for this mastered discipline to be mastered across all characters? Warning: Mastering a discipline across all characters means you cannot level your other characters from Crafting." and if the players clicks 'Yes', another dialogue box appears asking, "Are you absolutely sure you want to master this discipline across all characters?" and if the player clicks 'Yes' again, then it is done.

    This is why this is called the discussion area, for others to give criticism (like you) and for people like me who compose these threads to tweak the idea(s) instead of just saying it's all a bad idea...

    @Cerioth.7062 said:
    2) Eh...no. Fix other issues with PVP first before implementing new stuff.

    Better an "Eh, no, fix other PvP issues first" than a definite "Eh, no" that just assumes Jousting with Mounts would not be fun at all, so thank you.

    @Cerioth.7062 said:
    3) W...what? Just use the feeders - theres TONS of them and you will get rid of even big stacks of items, trust me. I used to have my bank slots filled with that stuff before feeders, and my storage capacity is 1,250. Plus you can make other things with them.

    The feeders, as I have mentioned, do me no good for said reasons to other commentors throughout this thread, and I am not even purposely trying to accumulate those items the feeders eat. I am just naturally throughout my gameplay or through certain bagged items I open, accumulating those items.

    @Cerioth.7062 said:
    4. ... No.

    More than all the other ideas people have opposed thus far in my OP, it is this one I do not understand. What's the difference? We are already encouraged to pick up our 7th-day item for Laurels, etc. so what is the difference between that and adding 1 Point to be received on each 7th-day item? You guys should be wanting this for easy points here and there, not opposing it.

    @Cerioth.7062 said:
    5. Nice idea but not sure what they'd add honestly.

    Because it has to do with music, that's why, and people around the world, generally speaking, love music, and if Anet gave musicians who tab music (and play it irl like I do) Sharps on our instruments, at the very least, along with a 4th Octave, it would open up many doors to music that could otherwise not be tabbed or played in-game.

  • Zaklex.6308Zaklex.6308 Member ✭✭✭✭

    It's not that difficult to switch between characters for crafting, I don't know why you have to re-log, I just use the Character Select screen, which doesn't log me out or make me re-log in, and 3 of my characters are parked in Crafting locations so I don't need to uselessly run around with them.

    I don't PvP so not even going to comment on that one. I have no need for one extra point a week on the 7th day, what I do see a need for is not getting Tomes of Knowledge anymore, those can be changed to something else...like once a month give us a random Ascended material(besides the one you can pick at the end of the month, as part of the regular rotation, remove the Tomes of Knowledge).

    Apparently there are two feeders for each of the different kinds of materials...you're trying to tell me that you can't go through 300 - 1000 units of those items per day and not whittle down your inventory? Heck, if you've maxed your current storage and don't want them anymore just trash them then, it's not like they cost you gold or anything to obtain.

    ArenaNet would be taking time away from developing new content in order for them to make new instruments, it's not as simple as you make it sound and their time is better spent on other things that more players would find useful.

    Yes...no...maybe...what do you want, can't you see I'm busy saving the world...AGAIN!

  • Bloodstealer.5978Bloodstealer.5978 Member ✭✭✭✭

    1- Crafting is a form of levelling.. therefore by a big no from me. I like crafting, I like levelling, there just isn't an issue with the current system other than "I want, I want". If this was such a game killer for players then the subject would of been a hot potato for a long time already.. but it isn't, which tells me it isn't an issue for 99.9% of the player base.
    Add to that your idea of another pop up box for me to click.. nah I don't like box clicking.. see what I did there
    Just craft, relog new toon, craft and place in shared bank, guild bank or even shared inventory..

    So, NON ISSUE.. no need to fix what isn't broken.

    2- PVP Mount Jousting... I am sure it appeals to you, but to me it sounds like a small niche limited interest game mode which would only serve to dilute the pvp population a little bit more.
    Where would this mount pvp take place.. are you expecting specific maps, instances, guild hall arena's?.. personally I would prefer ANET to spend resource fixing and improving the current in game systems, process and bug before they put 1 ounce of thought into this "I want, I want"

    3- Storage - Like others have already said use your Feeders, crafting, and if you still have too much.. chuck it away...
    If your saying your ending up with surplus each day after doing all the things that can be done then expanding the storage isn't going to fix the issue for you, it merely gives you a few more days of storage before you whine for more.
    What you perhaps have more mileage in putting forward is suggestions as to how we can utilise more of the resource not store it.
    TBH I can't fathom how your having so much of an issue with these resources tho.. do you play 24hrs a day cos I play a lot and do a lot but never hit this issue except maybe when I am wanting to farm and save for that rainy day shiny... that's why I have a mule or two standing by to lighten my bank load.
    Look I am all for having a few more storage tabs, heck I have voiced my concerns on this topic before, but not because of things like bloodstone.. because of all the items we have had to store like keys, gifts etc etc, but slowly ANET are introducing ideas that reduce the impact of these, like the key rings.. heck that saved me a lot of space.. but we can already store 2500 in materials store + 250 per stack in bank or inv .. how much more do you really need to carry. If your not using it any time soon then its simply surplus to requirement and can be discarded safe in the knowledge it wont take you long to get more should you need it.

    4 - Daily logins - why on earth do you think we need more.
    Just out of interest, how many AP's does your main have cos I am beginning to think this post is all about wanting to try and catch up with the elite having started late. I mean like 4 AP's are really going to make you happy and satisfied, heck wait. next you will be wanting a special monthly Legendary reward... no we have a nice range of daily login rewards and a wide variety of daily in game rewards, we don't need more, what we need is time spent fixing stuff that is genuinely in need of fixing.

    5- Music items are ok.. not my thing but I don't mind them.. that said not everyone does and from time to time I would imagine there will be new items added into the store, just not every day, week, month or year.. its like all the gemstore stuff, they put out a selection of things to attract us to purchase and perhaps music items just don't sell all that much and fail to turn a profit for them.. so adding new ones will only happen now and then.

    I am not saying any of what you have put out is right or wrong, just it seems to me there are more pressing issues the game needs to put some resource into

    Life is what YOU make it... NOT what others tell you!

  • Eidolonemesis.5640Eidolonemesis.5640 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2017

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    1- Crafting is a form of levelling.. therefore by a big no from me. I like crafting, I like levelling, there just isn't an issue with the current system other than "I want, I want".

    Apparently you and the other person who commented as of today read zero edits I made to my updated OP within the very first topic line 1. Crafting. It straightforwardly addresses you guys' gripe with my take on how Crafting should be in a way where you have the 'Option' to choose whether or not you want to have a discipline mastered only for the one character you mastered it on (for those who want to level by Crafting) OR master the discipline across all characters on your account.

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    If this was such a game killer for players then the subject would of been a hot potato for a long time already.. but it isn't, which tells me it isn't an issue for 99.9% of the player base.

    Just because people are not making hot potatoes out of certain topics doesn't mean certain aspects of the game that can use improvement are not important, or does not mean they are less important than other aspects of the game.

    People said the same thing about bag items and consumables prior to having the much-needed 'use-all' and 'consume all' options by saying it was not a big deal when it was, just like you are doing right now with the ideas I proposed. It was not until me and nearly my whole Guild got together, and their friends, and so on, that those Options were implemented. We purposely blew up the thread so the thread gained traction.

    The point is, sometimes people don't know what they really want until it is actually implemented into the game.

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    Add to that your idea of another pop up box for me to click.. nah I don't like box clicking.. see what I did there
    Just craft, relog new toon, craft and place in shared bank, guild bank or even shared inventory..

    You seem to have gotten your tongue twisted in the above stated. What does a dialogue box (as mentioned in my updated OP, granted you really read it through) have to do with crafting and placing crafting materials? (do I have that right?) into the Shared Bank, Guild Bank or the shared inventory? The dialogue box is simply one-time a two-click process only AFTER mastering a discipline, any discipline, on any character first.

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    2- PVP Mount Jousting... I am sure it appeals to you, but to me it sounds like a small niche limited interest game mode which would only serve to dilute the pvp population a little bit more.

    Okay, let me ask you this, since you seem to think you speak for everyone, that the idea of Jousting with Mounts would not be fun. What, then, is the difference between Mount Racing against other players' Mounts and Jousting against other players' Mounts? Going by your logic, since racing IS a form of PvP (going against other players), it is therefore taking away from the PvP community. If that is the case, then Mount Racing should be removed, am I right?

    To use your own logic and turn it against you once more, heck, let's just do away with all things PvE, or anything not PvP-related, just because it 'distracts' players from one gameplay type (OR vice versa). Yea, that makes a whole lot of sense, doesn't it?

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    Where would this mount pvp take place.. are you expecting specific maps, instances, guild hall arena's?.. personally I would prefer ANET to spend resource fixing and improving the current in game systems, process and bug before they put 1 ounce of thought into this "I want, I want."

    Absolutely not. There would not be a bunch of maps dedicated to Mount Jousting Events. Let's call them that. Mount Jousting would instead take place on a single battleground, that, unlike Mount Racing, would not require players to go all over the map, any map, to participate in the Mount Jousting Event.

    Far as where the Mount Jousting Event would take place, it would only make sense to have it take place somewhere in the Crystal Desert.

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    3- Storage - Like others have already said use your Feeders, crafting, and if you still have too much.. chuck it away...
    If your saying your ending up with surplus each day after doing all the things that can be done then expanding the storage isn't going to fix the issue for you, it merely gives you a few more days of storage before you whine for more.

    Wrong. The idea in my OP is to give players a maximum stack size of 20,000 total for Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, and Empyreal Fragments TO free up space and to make it so they stay within that stack range, as a marker, to encourage players to discard/trash anything beyond 20,000. Therefore, if I had that kind of storage for Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, and Empyreal Fragments, it would encourage me to keep only up to that stack limit when reached, and anything over, get rid of if need be. There would at that point be no whining, as you sarcastically put it.

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    What you perhaps have more mileage in putting forward is suggestions as to how we can utilise more of the resource not store it.

    Except I have had a simple idea like that, and the idea was to allow feeders like Mawdrey, Princess, etc. to consume a whole STACK (or two!) of Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, and Empyreal Fragments instead of a measly 50 per use that falls short of consuming a whole stack, yet that did not gain any traction, and for what reason, I don't know. So you are wrong again by saying I would gain more traction by proposing such an idea I had years ago. Sometimes I think people disagree just to disagree no matter what idea it is anybody proposes.

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    TBH I can't fathom how your having so much of an issue with these resources tho.. do you play 24hrs a day cos I play a lot and do a lot but never hit this issue except maybe when I am wanting to farm and save for that rainy day shiny... that's why I have a mule or two standing by to lighten my bank load.

    Perhaps if you read the GW2 Wiki on Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, and Empyreal Fragments under the Contained In topic line, you would better understand where they can so easily be accumulated, especially, for example, players during Halloween who open Trick-or-Treat bags for raising their Magic Find like I have done several times. And that is just with ToT bags alone.

    Off the top of my head, there are currently 120 items you can obtain Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, and Empyreal Fragments from, so you do the math. I tend to run into those items at some time or other during my gameplay experience, yet everyone's gameplay experience is different. I PvE a lot. I buy a lot of certain bags, etc. that just so happen to have things like Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, and Empyreal Fragments in them. Maybe you don't, but that does not mean others players don't.

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    Look I am all for having a few more storage tabs, heck I have voiced my concerns on this topic before, but not because of things like bloodstone.. because of all the items we have had to store like keys, gifts etc etc, but slowly ANET are introducing ideas that reduce the impact of these, like the key rings.. heck that saved me a lot of space.. but we can already store 2500 in materials store + 250 per stack in bank or inv .. how much more do you really need to carry. If your not using it any time soon then its simply surplus to requirement and can be discarded safe in the knowledge it wont take you long to get more should you need it.

    All I am requesting is that the default storage space of Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, and Empyreal Fragments be increased by 2,500 and 2,500 more with each Storage Expander bought at the Gem Store, NOT for all the other materials. They are fine the way they are when capped at 2,500.

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    4 - Daily logins - why on earth do you think we need more.
    Just out of interest, how many AP's does your main have cos I am beginning to think this post is all about wanting to try and catch up with the elite having started late. I mean like 4 AP's are really going to make you happy and satisfied, heck wait. next you will be wanting a special monthly Legendary reward... no we have a nice range of daily login rewards and a wide variety of daily in game rewards, we don't need more, what we need is time spent fixing stuff that is genuinely in need of fixing.

    Whether I had 1,000 APs or 20,000 APs, that is beside the point, and not the reason at all why I proposed the idea. +4 APs (4 weeks worth) is NOT going to make a player catch up with the Elite players for reason being it is common sense those Elite players would also be benefiting from the SAME APs everyone else does on the 7th day like every other player (as proposed in my OP).

    Your argument and/or assumption in the above stated from you does not even make sense that that would be the reason for me to suggest the idea. The idea is just to make players feel a little more rewarded. Nothing more or nothing less, yet you go and blow it all out of proportion.

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    5- Music items are ok.. not my thing but I don't mind them.. that said not everyone does and from time to time I would imagine there will be new items added into the store, just not every day, week, month or year.. its like all the gemstore stuff, they put out a selection of things to attract us to purchase and perhaps music items just don't sell all that much and fail to turn a profit for them.. so adding new ones will only happen now and then.

    So just because you don't get into music much, or to be more precise, music coming from the in-game instruments, you just 'assume' not many people are 'into' it. Well, you're very wrong. Any time me and my renowned musician Guilds go to the big towns during touring, we draw many crowds. And mind you, we don't macro scripts; we actually play manually and perform duets.

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    I am not saying any of what you have put out is right or wrong, just it seems to me there are more pressing issues the game needs to put some resource into

    You are clearly saying the ideas are garbo. You support nothing. Sugarcoat it all you want. Your counterpoints thus far as to why you do not support anything that's been proposed in the OP are either weak or are filled with overly assumptuous thinking behind each one.

  • Eidolonemesis.5640Eidolonemesis.5640 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2017

    @Zaklex.6308 said:
    It's not that difficult to switch between characters for crafting, I don't know why you have to re-log, I just use the Character Select screen, which doesn't log me out or make me re-log in, and 3 of my characters are parked in Crafting locations so I don't need to uselessly run around with them.

    When I said 're-log' I did mean constantly going back to the Character Screen (my bad for bad wording).

    Let me break it down for you on why this is an annoyance... Say I have (random number) 3 characters on my account, each one being in different locations, towns, w/e, and the character I am currently playing is in a town, yet has no access to any of the disciplines I have already mastered on another character, or two. Well, now I have to go back to the 'Character Screen' and pick the character who does, that OR sometimes I have to remember which characters of mine have which mastered disciplines. This in conjunction to the fact the character who does have certain mastered disciplines, yet that is not already in a town. Now I have to travel to a town and walk to a crafting station to Craft.

    So yea, it is a huge annoyance. It is a problem. Maybe not to you, yet you are not everybody, and the fellow players who have commented thus far are only a very small sample in this large GW2 community.

    As for the rest of what you argued, I have explained myself well enough throughout the comments here and in my OP. I have reached broken record status.

  • Glacial.9516Glacial.9516 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2017

    I don't actually consider any of these pet peeves. I think many of these changes go well beyond 'pet peeve' (like when someone asks for class balance as a QoL update). For me a crafting pet peeve is that the craft menus are all opened by default. It would be nice if they remembered your previous open/closed settings, or had an option to default all closed.

    Anyway. What does #4 mean?

    1. Why are no points given to players for logging in every 7 days?
      Every 7 days (1 week) we log in, players should be given 1 points to their account on the 7th day (52 weeks in a year = 52 points).
      Why not? Don’t you want players to stay more tuned in than they already are?

    Edit: Looked at other responses. 1 AP every 7 days? I don't see the need with dailies giving AP, plus dailies are capped so presumably this would be lumped in with dailies and help to reach the cap 1.5% sooner (71 per week instead of 70).

    I'd be in favor of an update to the Musical instruments. They feel a tad clunky to me, esp. when changing octaves, but I'm also not a very good musician so I'm confident that I'm the cause of 99% of the instrument troubles I run into. I'd love to be able to bind all 3 (or more) octaves to hotkeys separately from normal keybinds.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    How about the walk toggle to work with mounts?

    Too many times my fat fingers have pressed C by accident just as I mount and Im forced to dismount to untoggle walk.

    Not to brag, but I put together a puzzle in 4 days and the box said 2-4 years.
    Please allow team queue with rewards again at our own discretion.
    Apologies if I come off as dry or blunt.

  • @sephiroth.4217 said:
    How about the walk toggle to work with mounts?

    Too many times my fat fingers have pressed C by accident just as I mount and Im forced to dismount to untoggle walk.

    I have no clue what you mean.
    Did you set your walk toggle to C? If so, you know you can set it to something else.

    My version didn't have it toggle to anything and in the end set it to J.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ayumi Spender.1082 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    How about the walk toggle to work with mounts?

    Too many times my fat fingers have pressed C by accident just as I mount and Im forced to dismount to untoggle walk.

    I have no clue what you mean.
    Did you set your walk toggle to C? If so, you know you can set it to something else.

    My version didn't have it toggle to anything and in the end set it to J.

    My walk is toggled to C but the hotkey is not related to the issue of being able to toggle walk on and off while being mounted.

    Not to brag, but I put together a puzzle in 4 days and the box said 2-4 years.
    Please allow team queue with rewards again at our own discretion.
    Apologies if I come off as dry or blunt.

  • @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @Ayumi Spender.1082 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    How about the walk toggle to work with mounts?

    Too many times my fat fingers have pressed C by accident just as I mount and Im forced to dismount to untoggle walk.

    I have no clue what you mean.
    Did you set your walk toggle to C? If so, you know you can set it to something else.

    My version didn't have it toggle to anything and in the end set it to J.

    My walk is toggled to C but the hotkey is not related to the issue of being able to toggle walk on and off while being mounted.

    I can walk while on my Raptor though. I just on my raptor and toggle walk and my Raptor becomes a

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ayumi Spender.1082 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @Ayumi Spender.1082 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    How about the walk toggle to work with mounts?

    Too many times my fat fingers have pressed C by accident just as I mount and Im forced to dismount to untoggle walk.

    I have no clue what you mean.
    Did you set your walk toggle to C? If so, you know you can set it to something else.

    My version didn't have it toggle to anything and in the end set it to J.

    My walk is toggled to C but the hotkey is not related to the issue of being able to toggle walk on and off while being mounted.

    I can walk while on my Raptor though. I just on my raptor and toggle walk and my Raptor becomes a

    So it works for Raptor but not Griffon? weird....

    Not to brag, but I put together a puzzle in 4 days and the box said 2-4 years.
    Please allow team queue with rewards again at our own discretion.
    Apologies if I come off as dry or blunt.

  • Bloodstealer.5978Bloodstealer.5978 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Eidolonemesis.5640 said:

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    1- Crafting is a form of levelling.. therefore by a big no from me. I like crafting, I like levelling, there just isn't an issue with the current system other than "I want, I want".

    -- S N I P -- -- B L A H B L A H -- --S N I P --

    You are clearly saying the ideas are garbo. You support nothing. Sugarcoat it all you want. Your counterpoints thus far as to why you do not support anything that's been proposed in the OP are either weak or are filled with overly assumptuous thinking behind each one.


    Once again I will state all your OP and even your new counters seem to reflect what you want and is best for you rather than.. does it work for the game as a whole. It's almost as if you feel you are entitled to have what anyone else has regardless of how long you have or have not been in game.

    1 - Your edits aside.. your whole idea around what you feel needs to be the way forward is based solely on the fact you don't want to log another toon.. admirable sure but hardly the cause for a major game system with a whole lot of side systems linked into it to be changed, overhauled, reworked just so you can do it all on one character.
    TBH I would be more inclined to be grateful that we do have additional licences made available in the first place .. I mean we only have 8 disciplines.. 4 license means 2 toons to rotate at worst when crafting items that require multi-disciplines.

    Sorry I 100% feel this is a non-issue - sure it could be done but is it worth the time and effort this far into the games life.

    BTW the "consume all" option is a completely different QoL argument... nothing to do with bank storage of items or resources it was to save players having to keep click click click.. and guess what more and more dialogue boxes in game tend to bring out the same cries from the community.
    If you want to take credit for its implementation then I wholeheartedly pat you on the back...

    2 - Mount PvP... Hmmm so enlighten me, where exactly did I speak for everyone, or maybe the part where I said (and you even highlighted it again in your counter) "to me it sounds like".. not "to everyone it sounds like".
    If your only way to hold converse is to immediately jump in to defence mode and try to put words in the others mouths then maybe you might want to go back and learn how to take criticism better.
    I am not a huge fan of the races around maps, idont really see the point but its something I maybe do once to get the achievement then tend to get back on playing the relevant game mode that takes my fancy at the time.
    Mini games like racing are merely a distraction, fun for a little while but grow old very fast imo, in the mean time other game modes might struggle to get numbers to run metas or they block others getting into maps for metas, pvp losses numbers whilst you go play "sir lance-a-lot"

    BTW you actually agreed with my point, they would need to create a whole new instance to appease the activity, or make a dedicated area for this.. racing doesn't do that its across the map your on.
    Again though its a nice idea but for me personally I just don't see how it adds anything of value to the game right now.

    3 - Sorry but you still failed to answer the point in question.. why do you need to store so much of it.
    Whether you increase the storage capacity from 2.5k to 10k or 100k, it does not solve your issue.. you will still get to a point fairly soon where you want it expanded again.
    If your not using the resource enough then the issue is the game needs more ways to utilise the resource not store it.
    I have been playing since pre-release, I am faitlrry sure I know how to accumulate pretty much any resource in quantities and Bloodstone dust, emptyreal frags are for sure a thousand times easier and faster to amass, I don't think anyone needs wiki to understand that.

    Look, the game after point of sale is essentially free and convenience items are where the game targets a revenue source, and rightly so.
    Most MMO's I have played over the years and those that I play currently don't offer anywhere like the standard levels of convenience GW2 offers to players, for free, so I think we should be pretty grateful we get what we get and not have to spend even more RL currency for it.
    Guess what, having some resources that oversupply tend to help generate some of those much needed coins. Once you get those bits maxed then you need to think outside the box.. use mules, ooh wait that might require purchasing an additional toon slot.. ding, lightbulb moment I know by the guy in the bean counter seat, but you have a choice if you really want to stash all this stuff in such out of whack amounts, buy another slot and lead your mule to pasture.

    So.. Please enlighten me, other players and ANET.. what is your plan when your store reaches your idea of a happy max cos it sounds like no matter what value you attach to it, your simply not using it anyways and is merely gathering dust (excuse the pun) until you want more.
    Of course none of us have any idea what ANET has in mind for future utilisation of resources like Bloodstone Dust, Emptyreal Frags, Dragonite or even Essences of Luck (which btw I think has a lot more mileage when requesting a re-think by ANET). So all your prayers may be answered anyway some day.

    4 - So you think the players are feeling unrewarded for just merely logging in and logging out and ANET needs to give us more.

    I think your the one maybe trying to speak for the rest of us here cos seriously.. for me logging into the game and having fun for a few hours with some friends is reward enough, but hey ANET like to throw out some nice additional stuff as a way of saying thanks.. guess some are never satisfied.

    So explain to me why you feel so unrewarded after purchasing a game and logging in to it.
    What is it that is making you feel unrewarded.. the game, the content, the systems, the fact you might have to buy some convenience from time to time... I am genuinely interested why you think throwing a few more AP's to players is going to make such a difference to your game.
    Yes I know, AP's was your idea, but there are other things they could reward you with over and above what you already get.. how about some additional Bloodstone dust or maybe even 20 more shared inventory slots... heck just tick a box and they will send you a new kitchen sink.
    Why .. why is all I am asking, why do you feel you and the rest of the playerbase need more of a reward just for logging into the game???

    5 - Where did I say I don't like music or music coming to the game.. I said its not my thing meaning I don't go out of my way to buy bells, harps, air guitars or a ukulele in order to enjoy logging in and spend time having fun with friends.
    I think GW2 btw has some of the best in game music out there in MMO space.
    All I sais was not everyone likes the instrument ensemble in "name your location" - which I think is reasonable to say.. I didn't say everyone hates or everyone likes it... please stop trying to put words into mouths, and read what is being said before charging in regardless.
    I also went as far to say ANET tend to add a range of items from time to time... items that they feel have a chance of turning a small profit (and as MO has already stated, many of the store items only make small profits so they need volume to make it a worthwhile idea... all I sais was maybe music items don't sell in the volumes they require, which is why the introduction of new ones is slower than other things.

    So to finish.. I don't believe I have overly assumed anything, its more about I don't personally see a need for some things you "want"... they are nice perhaps but I would rather ANET focus on more meaningful uses of their time and resource. If you feel that's unreasonable then sorry but that's life I guess.
    What I would say is that you seem pretty bad at taking any form of criticism and if anyone disagrees with your ideas on any level you get all red misted try to smear the person, attempt to put words in their mouths and conveniently overlook the flaws that others have come back at you with in your postings... doesn't bode well for you being taken seriously imo.

    Life is what YOU make it... NOT what others tell you!

  • Eidolonemesis.5640Eidolonemesis.5640 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 11, 2017

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    So.. Please enlighten me, other players and ANET.. what is your plan when your store reaches your idea of a happy max cos it sounds like no matter what value you attach to it, your simply not using it anyways and is merely gathering dust (excuse the pun) until you want more. (See how you 'assume' things? That's all you do)

    Pardon my late reply.

    Let me just skip to something you said near the end of your reply (in the above stated by you) by saying you do NOT want to be enlightened or proven wrong in any sense of the word. You would rather skip someone's answers they have already given you, just like you are likely about to do, again.

    But to answer your question, I DO use the Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments, and Pieces of Candy Corn (yea, I added that to the list while we are at it for said reasons in my updated OP). I simply do not use them up fast enough. Big difference! But leave it to you in the above stated from you I put in bold for you to, again, 'ASSUME' I don't use them, that they are collecting dust.

    Oh, and here you go again, assuming again,

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    Once again I will state all your OP and even your new counters SEEM to reflect...

    That is all you do is 'assume'. Not everything that 'seems' is always what it really is, yet you believe it to be so, no matter what I say.

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    I mean we only have 8 disciplines.. 4 license means 2 toons to rotate at worst when crafting items that require multi-disciplines.

    Before I go any further, stop right there. See, because you read only what you want to, there are in fact 9 disciplines (you forgot Scribe, which is considered a form of Crafting, as described in my OP!), and the Gem Store only allows 8 Licenses. So no, THREE characters are required to have access to all your Crafting needs.

    Sure, you can make the argument, "Oh, well not everyone runs a Guild." yet that is beside the point. There are 9 disciplines, period, that require 3 different characters to access all your Crafting disciplines in the event you DO run a Guild like I do.

    My whole point about Crafting is there should be 9 Licenses that can be bought from the Gem Store (NOT just 8), AND for it to be OPTIONAL (as explained in my updated OP you clearly did not read) to have our Crafting disciplines mastered ONLY on the character that mastered it first (if 'Yes' or 'No' you press 'Yes' or 'No') OR to be mastered across all other characters (if 'Yes' or 'No' you press 'Yes' or 'No').

    The dialogue boxes are more in-depth of course than just 'Yes' or 'No', but because you openly refuse to read my updated OP, you wouldn't know that.

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    -- S N I P -- -- B L A H B L A H -- --S N I P --

    The above stated from you just goes to show you did NOT read what I said well enough in response to your previous comment, which is exactly why you are asking the same questions, again (just rephrased a different way) that I have already answered!

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    BTW you actually agreed with my point, they would need to create a whole new instance to appease the activity, or make a dedicated area for this.. racing doesn't do that its across the map your on.

    I did not agree with anything. You pitched questions to me, asking whether or not multiple Maps would be required for Mount Jousting Events, along with a few other questions regarding where the Event would take place. You did NOT make a 'statement' (difference) saying there 'should NOT be' multiple Maps for Mount Jousting Events. Therefore, again, I did not 'agree' with anything. I explained to you (difference) how the idea would work because it is exactly as I envisioned it in my mind. I simply did not elaborate on the idea well enough until you started asking questions.

    That is not considered 'agreeing' with somebody.

    Here, let me take it a step further for argument sake and quote word for word what you said,

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    PVP Mount Jousting... I am sure it appeals to you, but to me it sounds like a small niche limited interest game mode which would only serve to dilute the pvp population a little bit more. Where would this mount pvp take place.. are you expecting specific maps, instances, guild hall arena's?.. personally I would prefer ANET to spend resource fixing and improving the current in game systems, process and bug before they put 1 ounce of thought into this "I want, I want"

    Please, tell me where, in anything you said in the above stated, I agreed with anything you said? I will wait... Where did I agree with you that Jousting Events (Events by the way pop up at certain times, in case you never played GW2) would effect PvP? Nowhere. Where did I agree with you (to sum up your whole sentiments about the idea of Mount Jousting) that it is pretty much a terrible idea, that it is not worth the time and day? Nowhere!

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    Again though its a nice idea but for me personally I just don't see how it adds anything of value to the game right now.

    How hypocritical of you. You clearly were not FOR the idea to begin with, and now in the above stated from you, you say, "Again though its a nice idea but for me personally I just don't see how it adds anything of value to the game right now."

    Bro, seriously, if you're going to not like an idea, at least stick by your guns like I do. Don't sit there and say the idea is not worth the time and day, and then turn around and merely pretend to think it is a nice idea.

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    Sorry but you still failed to answer the point in question.. why do you need to store so much of it. Whether you increase the storage capacity from 2.5k to 10k or 100k, it does not solve your issue.. you will still get to a point fairly soon where you want it expanded again.

    I did not FAIL to answer anything. The answer is obvious, even if I did not answer the question to have the Stack Size of Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments, and Pieces of Candy Corn capped at 20,000 instead of 2,500. The answer IS to store more! 20,000 would be ideal in 2,500 increments with each Storage Expander, because 8 x 250 = 2,500 just like 8 x 2,500 = 20,000, 8 being the maximum number of Storage Expanders you can buy from the Gem Store.

    Think of the stack size increase to Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments, and Pieces of Candy Corn like stocking works in a grocery store. If a certain item sells a lot, and you receive 'a lot' of a particular item, what has to happen? You make more shelf space somewhere in the store for that item, right?

    Okay, well, the same thing applies when materials like Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments, and Pieces of Candy Corn are so easily obtained, to which it only makes sense that the stack size should be increased when the materials that are coming your way outnumbers the amount you can hold at only 2,500.

    Accumulating things like Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments, and Pieces of Candy Corn is not like accumulating rarer materials that come less often. Heck, I even accumulate common materials faster than I do all the Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments, and Pieces of Candy Corn, and I am not even trying to do it on purpose. I just run into them through certain containers, chests, and bags I open.

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    Once again I will state all your OP and even your new counters seem to reflect what you want and is best for you rather than.. does it work for the game as a whole. It's almost as if you feel you are entitled to have what anyone else has regardless of how long you have or have not been in game.

    I have already explained myself well enough as to how the ideas can help other players. If it was all about ME in my OP, I would have said for Anet to just give ME alone those 4 APs (4 weeks worth) and not anybody else. If it was all about ME in my OP, I would have said for Anet to just give ME the increased stack size on Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments, and Pieces of Candy Corn (for the Candy Corn Gobbler that gives boons, so I keep my Candy stocked high).

    Those are just two examples, yet you go and twist things in such way where you think what I propose serves nobody except me. Well guess what? You're wrong once again, because that is what you want to believe.

    As for the rest of what you said, I have answered your questions. I am not going to repeat myself again and again more than I already have. You simply did not care well enough to read into my answers I gave you. In fact, you are going to do the same thing, again. Otherwise, you would not be repeating questions over and over I already answered, or coming up with different ways to ask the questions as if I answered nothing at all.

  • As far as Ascended Mats go, I'm still confused by why anyone would need 20,000 of each one, or more than 2,500 of the refined materials.
    Regardless, if you feel you gather too much of, say, Bloodstone Dust, open all those Champion containers on a low- or mid-level character, and voila! No more Dust.

    You're welcome. :)

  • Eidolonemesis.5640Eidolonemesis.5640 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 11, 2017

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    As far as Ascended Mats go, I'm still confused by why anyone would need 20,000 of each one...

    The answer to the above stated from you is that Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments (being Ascended Materials) are the easiest Ascended Materials to obtain without even having to try hard at it. Maybe your gameplay experience is different than mine, but the way I play the game and the places I go, it seems I cannot get away from those 3 Ascended Materials.

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    ...or more than 2,500 of the refined materials.

    Where in my OP did I say the stack size for Refined Materials should be higher than 2,500? Nowhere.

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    Regardless, if you feel you gather too much of, say, Bloodstone Dust, open all those Champion containers on a low- or mid-level character, and voila! No more Dust. You're welcome. :)

    Except my other characters, having almost the maximum amount of Inventory Bags allowed, are filled to the brim with other items, materials, etc. Therefore, your answer to the problem is a no answer.

    Furthermore, throwing away items I actually do use is also a no answer, although I am keeping the stock I have of Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments at that sweetspot 20,000. It is just annoying I have to use up a bunch of space to maintain a 20,000 stock of those items when the stack size can simply be increased to 20,000 in 2,500 increments from each Storage Expander bought (as explained in my OP).

    As far all other materials go, I never, ever run into this problem. I either 1. Do not find them that often despite being called 'common materials' or 2. I stop needing certain materials after I have crafted certain things after a while. Therefore, I do not go out of my way to purposely farm those materials.

  • Inculpatus cedo.9234Inculpatus cedo.9234 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 11, 2017

    No, you just ignored the question about refining the Ascended Mats. Again, what do you need 20,000 unrefined mats for? What do you plan to use them for? If these mats are so easy to obtain, why do you need to horde them?
    As for your mules, I'm not sure what they have to do with opening containers on a low- or mid-level character to avoid Ascended Mats.

    If you don't want to take advantage of the solutions readily available, I guess you will have to hope that the Devs change just 3 slots (which probably is not possible.)

    Good luck.

    Edit: After reading your edits, have you 1000 Candy Corn Cobs? 2500 Bricks, Stars, Ingots?

  • Both Chef and Jeweler cost <10g to get to 400 and grant ~16-20 levels. Most other disciplines require ~30g to get to 400 which is 15 days of dailies and easily obtainable even by newer players. Is it a dated way? Maybe, I don't know. Are there still people using it? You can tell there are from the number of people who posted in this very thread that they do so. Do a substantial amount of players use this method to level characters? We can't tell since we don't have statistics on that, so your claim of it being a dated way and a weak argument hold just as much water as the argument itself.

    I am keeping the stock I have of Piles of Bloodstone Dust, Dragonite Ore, Empyreal Fragments at that sweetspot 20,000

    Why is 20k a sweet spot? What determines this sweetspot? If you need them for ascended crafting you can just convert them straight to Bricks, Ingots and Stars. That's 250x100 taken care of, and with 250 of each of them you can make 50 vision crystals and 125 (I forget if they need 2 or 3 each) lesser vision crystals. That's enough for multiple ascended chests.

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