That moment when top 3 is 3 mesmers.

That moment.

3 chrono or 3 mirage or 3 mesmers?

@Rico.68733 Mirage

If it was 3 warriors it would be fine though?

@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:If it was 3 warriors it would be fine though?

It would indeed be publicly accepted.

Warriors are a humble and loved species. They excel with limited resources. Well deserved.

Outrageous claims indeed. Nothing humble about warriors, they're nothing but big nasty brutes

@JayAction.9056 said:That moment.

Where do you see this?

@Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:If it was 3 warriors it would be fine though?

No one complained when it was all Herald, Holos, and Spellbreaker. Or even 6/10 boonbeasts.

Anyway, I called it that CI Condi would be running roughshot over ranked, hence why I made that thread when the patch notes left the build completely untouched. Hoping that CI and the Daze mantra get some needs fairly soon and that fast quick changes like halving the immob and upping the Daze mantra cooldown would be appreciated to make them less oppressive. Or give CI a 5 second cooldown.

It look Anet literally TWO DAYS to nerf Abrasive Grit after the Rune of the Sanctuary rework created a broken synergy with the traitline combined with Vampirism. Like we should be getting at least some similarly minor shaves to CI Mirage to make it a bit less oppressive in that same time span.

@mortrialus.3062

lol People will always complain about Mesmer. It's one of those classes that even if it was UP, it still annoys them, therefore it is OP to me.

Kind of like when DE got neutered and they chopped one of its legs off, even though it had 0 representation in ATs, and only 2 players on it at a Plat 2+ level.

@Lincolnbeard.1735 said:Don't be mad because Mes OUTSKILLED YOU.

LOL. Bravo on bringing back this guy's completely bizarre posts in a funny way.

@ZeroTheCat.2684 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:That moment.

NA leader board

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:If it was 3 warriors it would be fine though?

That literally never happened.

Funny thing is Herald at its strongest since POF release was maybe a 7/10 and it got nerfed recently to about a 5.5/10.

We have Mesmer here with its domination so encompassing that there are 3 mirages holding the top 3 spots NA...

Mesmer has never left being META across all its soecializations. It’s just the people who are actually good at it play the game in waves as they completely faceroll everything else and we are seeing it with some names returning to the leaderboard.

Yet Revenent POF spec is an unplayable meme and you guys complained on the Revenant HOT spec when it FINALLY got out of being an automatic loss in all equally skilled 1v1s (How many times does an underperforming spec have to be nerfed for y’all to see your getting outplayed by losing to it)

Mesmer; The only class gold 1 quality players make it top 100 consistently.

Mesmer: The only class that can have both the highest damage and highest sustain at the same time.

@JayAction.9056 said:

@ZeroTheCat.2684 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:That moment.

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:If it was 3 warriors it would be fine though?

Not that Weaver got a little boost and seeing more play in pvp the community is gonna be calling on ele nerfs soon I bet.

Mesmer is top 3 after almost 2 years of nerfs. Just think about that for a second. They were so OP and had so many viable builds 2 years ago after the "rework" that they STILL have builds that dominate at top level (and run off new players too). Someone in Anet has a real hard on for Mesmers. They (along with engies) actually got the most attention with "reworks" and new stuff too since POF.

@Psycoprophet.8107 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:

@ZeroTheCat.2684 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:That moment.

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:If it was 3 warriors it would be fine though?

No need to nerf.Weaver only access to stab is bugged for 15 days now ?

@JayAction.9056 said:Mesmer: The only class that can have both the highest damage and highest sustain at the same time.

They have neither of these but ok.

@JayAction.9056 said:

@ZeroTheCat.2684 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:That moment.

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:If it was 3 warriors it would be fine though?

Season 14 ended with 6-7/10 Boonbeast. Season 16 was 2x spellbreaker, 2x holosmith, 3x revenant, 1x soulbeast, 1x thief, and 1x Mirage for the top ten.

Funny thing is Herald at its strongest since POF release was maybe a 7/10 and it got nerfed recently to about a 5.5/10.

Double Herald is probably the first time 2x or more of a single build on an MAT since maybe the Phantasm rework left Chronomancer completely broken with super charged Phantasms+Chronophantasma+Signet of the Ether before that combo got slapped. And the nerfs at best simply nibbled away at the edges of it. It's fundamentally an extremely strong build.

Mesmer has never left being META across all its soecializations. It’s just the people who are actually good at it play the game in waves as they completely faceroll everything else and we are seeing it with some names returning to the leaderboard.

I never thought Mirage was bad. Simply that until the Chaotic Interruption+Mantra of Distraction's synergy with condi builds was discovered I thought Power was the stronger, better build.

Yet Revenent POF spec is an unplayable meme and you guys complained on the Revenant HOT spec when it FINALLY got out of being an automatic loss in all equally skilled 1v1s (How many times does an underperforming spec have to be nerfed for y’all to see your getting outplayed by losing to it)

Good players make Renegod work.

And Chronomancer is looking to be a pretty unplayable meme for a while.

@everyman.4375 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:Mesmer: The only class that can have both the highest damage and highest sustain at the same time.

Even when equipped with a sages or even mender's amulet amulet a holosmith on a demolisher's amulet has far more self healing. If you mean active defenses, sure mirage has a lot but most side noding duelist classes are competitive with that and even outside of side noders literally nothing competes with thief in terms of sheer active defenses and mobility.

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:

@ZeroTheCat.2684 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:That moment.

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:If it was 3 warriors it would be fine though?

Funny thing is Herald at its strongest since POF release was maybe a 7/10 and it got nerfed recently to about a 5.5/10.

Mesmer has never left being META across all its soecializations. It’s just the people who are actually good at it play the game in waves as they completely faceroll everything else and we are seeing it with some names returning to the leaderboard.

Yet Revenent POF spec is an unplayable meme and you guys complained on the Revenant HOT spec when it FINALLY got out of being an automatic loss in all equally skilled 1v1s (How many times does an underperforming spec have to be nerfed for y’all to see your getting outplayed by losing to it)

@everyman.4375 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:Mesmer: The only class that can have both the highest damage and highest sustain at the same time.

"Season 14 ended with 6-7/10 Boonbeast. "

Have evidence or somewhere we can see that?

Who really cares in the end lmao the pvp in this games a joke. Its absolute garbage. The aoe's flying around with powercrept dps (fire weaver just added to it) the constant knockdown,dazed and stuns with cheesy insta delete bursts to follow lmao the developers are clueless as how to developers a pvp game and it shows hard. Just play it for what it is and dont take any of it seriously and its alot more enjoyable. Theres a reason It didnt nor could ever have been a esl game. Us players that are here are the only ones stupid enough to play, I've tried getting friends into it but because the above mentioned happening constantly they play for half hr and say F this lmao than ask me how I can stand playing it. But then they try pve and it's to easy so u can never win lol. People need to start worrying about anet making classes fun to play and not worry about balance. U cant have a balanced game with classes like mesmer and thief design wise or classes like warrior that hit like a truck,full of hard cc's(holo to) that can wreck u while ur on the ground or daze u or stun u and before u can stun brake burst u to zero or best yet rangers who just rapid fire and auto u to death while ur engaged with another opponent or when ur low on health. List goes on, everyone just needs to focus on what's fun and worry about whether anets adding fun content to the game cuz they definitely are not gonna be adding balanced shit lmao.

@ZhouX.8742 said:

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:

@ZeroTheCat.2684 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:That moment.

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:If it was 3 warriors it would be fine though?

Funny thing is Herald at its strongest since POF release was maybe a 7/10 and it got nerfed recently to about a 5.5/10.

Mesmer has never left being META across all its soecializations. It’s just the people who are actually good at it play the game in waves as they completely faceroll everything else and we are seeing it with some names returning to the leaderboard.

Yet Revenent POF spec is an unplayable meme and you guys complained on the Revenant HOT spec when it FINALLY got out of being an automatic loss in all equally skilled 1v1s (How many times does an underperforming spec have to be nerfed for y’all to see your getting outplayed by losing to it)

@everyman.4375 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:Mesmer: The only class that can have both the highest damage and highest sustain at the same time.

Personal experience playing with and against each of those accounts. Some of the would occasionally play Herald on the side.

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@ZhouX.8742 said:

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:

@ZeroTheCat.2684 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:That moment.

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:If it was 3 warriors it would be fine though?

Funny thing is Herald at its strongest since POF release was maybe a 7/10 and it got nerfed recently to about a 5.5/10.

Mesmer has never left being META across all its soecializations. It’s just the people who are actually good at it play the game in waves as they completely faceroll everything else and we are seeing it with some names returning to the leaderboard.

Yet Revenent POF spec is an unplayable meme and you guys complained on the Revenant HOT spec when it FINALLY got out of being an automatic loss in all equally skilled 1v1s (How many times does an underperforming spec have to be nerfed for y’all to see your getting outplayed by losing to it)

@everyman.4375 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:Mesmer: The only class that can have both the highest damage and highest sustain at the same time.

Ok, so you don't have evidence at all

Cool thanks

@JayAction.9056 said:

@ZeroTheCat.2684 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:That moment.

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:If it was 3 warriors it would be fine though?

You have a link to this leaderboard?

@ZeroTheCat.2684 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:

@ZeroTheCat.2684 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:That moment.

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:If it was 3 warriors it would be fine though?

Do I have a link to the leaderboard?

Facedesk yourself bro. I can’t

@Psycoprophet.8107 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:

@ZeroTheCat.2684 said:

@JayAction.9056 said:That moment.

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:If it was 3 warriors it would be fine though?

That is an absolute fact. You're gonna see people suggesting 50 percent nerf across all water traits and up cooldowns to the 45 second skills and utilities LOL.

I didn't know that it is now relevant on what classes ppl wintrade for Top 3