Daniel Handler.4816
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We've had a lot of discussion on how big the Elder Dragons are. But what about their champions? It seems like the Pale Tree is more than twice the size of Tequatl and larger than any blighting tree we've interacted with. And that was before Modremoth's death.

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The Pale Tree is indeed pretty darn large. She had 250 years longer than the other Blighting Trees to grow. However, that said, I'm fairly sure that she's not

thatmuch bigger than the Blighting Trees in HoT. Especially the three in Dragon's Stand.All these squares make a circle.

All these squares make a circle.

All these squares make a circle.

What are you defining as her body? Because the three Blighting Trees you mention are dwarfed by the Grove.

This is the pale tree when seen from the outside.....

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/3/37/Pale_Tree.jpg

I think the only thing close to it in size is the "Heart of Thorns" tree in dragon stand.

The tree, obviously, since that is her body.

If you compare the

zone, then yes, they're dwarfed. But if you look at the world map, the tree is the center of the zone, and most of the zoneis not the tree. Comparing the space the tree covers, it is roughly the size of those three Blighting Towers in Dragon's Stand.Look at this map, the Pale Tree is largely that bight green circle in The Grove. Which is roughly the same size as the three Blighting Towers.

All these squares make a circle.

All these squares make a circle.

All these squares make a circle.

well, some of her even overlaps into Caledon, so actually, yes, the whole zone is her. Her stem, her roots.

I can go in person to all the blighting towers we can visit. But I was hoping more for a pulled model than using 2d world maps to determine whether she does or does not extend into the zone. Given the Sylvari starting area is Caledon forest and I see massive roots I am leaning towards she does.

edit: She appears smaller than Mordremoth's tree, but much larger than the Blighting Trees. Each of the three in Dragon Stand appear to offer the surface area of just the upper common's + Omphalos and similar height. Her full height is unknown because of petals obscuring vision. But from depths to the visible top of the upper level she is taller. Taking into consideration roots and "the entire jungle" she is vastly dwarfed by Mordremoth, but is also at least twice as large as any other Blighting Tree.

https://imgur.com/a/jyn9zXJ

I can’t support this with documented lore but I’ve always imagined the tree’s roots and branches reach into the dream.

I do not believe any of the Blighting Trees - or even the Pale Tree - is a singular model to be pulled.

Well, the Dream isn't a physical place, so that wouldn't entirely be the case, but also could be the case at the same time.

All these squares make a circle.

All these squares make a circle.

All these squares make a circle.

Isn't the Grove technically part of her body as well?