WHY AREN'T ALPINE STALKERS A CAPTUREABLE PET???

[Traceur Whisper.2159]

Dear Devs and fellow Rangers,It has come to my attention that Alpine stalkers are not a pet. I'm curious as to why?? Every other stalker type is tamable in game, why not this one? Can we make this so?? we already have a Tiger, jaguar, leopard, lion, cheetah, jungle stalker and I;m probably leaving one out, but why not the WHITE TIGER stalker.. I need it.. for reasons.
Anyway. Lets make this happen! If you want a tamable alpine stalker, leave a comment and lets let the devs know! thanks!

[InsaneQR.7412]

You forgot that the dune stalker. That's one missing too.

But honestly I want improve pet quality across the board before we get more quantity.

[anduriell.6280]

@InsaneQR.7412 said:You forgot that the dune stalker. That's one missing too.

But honestly I want improve pet quality across the board before we get more quantity.

I agree and i think this is a very important point to make when we talk about more pets or a new specialisation.

[Traceur Whisper.2159]

@anduriell.6280 said:

@InsaneQR.7412 said:You forgot that the dune stalker. That's one missing too.

But honestly I want improve pet quality across the board before we get more quantity.

I agree and i think this is a very important point to make when we talk about more pets or a new specialisation.

This IS a good point! Pet quality is definitely an issue that needs to be cleared before our selection is expanded, but it doesn't mean we can't hope right?

[Drgnfly.5812]

I will be really excited if they stop with all the feline pets. I would rather see the Green Moa, Dolphin, or Marmox made into pets. ?

[Teratus.2859]

Aside from f2 skills there isn't that much difference between all the felines, all the canines, all the drakes, all the bears etcThey have almost identical stats in their shared group except Hyena's I think which have lower attack than other canines due to How of the Pack.So essentially many of the Ranger pets in games are more or less clones, with their F2 being the only real thing that differs them from each other.

I think it would be better to do away with this entirely and for example instead of having 7 different Feline pets in the list, there is a single Feline catagory instead which you can then select one of the current 7 different Felines from.This would allow for a lot more feline skins to be made available to collect and the problem of clone pets with clone abilities wouldn't be as much a problem anymore since the amount of overall pets wouldn't be viewable on a single giant tab and nobody would care about clones wasting spots anymore as they would be able to have many more skin options.As it is now, every single clone pet in the game is needlessly wasting a pet slot in that menu purely for cosmetic reasons.

These pets are all identical clones.Blue and Rainbow JellyfishBlack and White RavensEagle and HawkBlack Widow and Jungle SpiderPink and Black MoaLiterally every single one of the 4 pig pets!

If Anet changed this to catagory instead we could reduce the currently 98 terresital pet list down to 14-15 catagories and expand them with different skins, potentially adding tons of new pets to the game without hurting gameplay or having to invest in making tons of new pet skills.They could also add entirely new pets to the game and reuse other pet skills to save time which I know a lot of players would be extremely happy about purely on the cosmetic element alone.

An example of this would be to merge the Smokescale and Bristleback into a Saurian catagory, Smogscales could then be added as a skin change for Smokescales.The new addition to the catagory could be Raptors which can reuse some of the Moa bird screech abilities and the Feline lunge attacks, their addition could then allow forBlack, Crested, Vulture, Eagle and Jungle Raptors to be tamed in the game and their skins unlocked to use.

Another catagory, Skales can also be added eventually forfilling a long requested Skale pet demand that's existed since Gw1.

If pets worked this way Ranger could have access to so many more pets without straight up breaking the game with balance issues.Soulbeast's pet Archtypes would need to be ajusted to fit with some of the new catagories, pet times and to include new skins but I think it would be worth doing overall if it gives Rangers a significant amount of cosmetic potential with their pets.

[InsaneQR.7412]

@Drgnfly.5812 said:I will be really excited if they stop with all the feline pets. I would rather see the Green Moa, Dolphin, or Marmox made into pets. ?

Bassilisk B)

[Gabrya.6297]

@"Teratus.2859" said:

As it is now, every single clone pet in the game is needlessly wasting a pet slot in that menu purely for cosmetic reasons.

These pets are all identical clones.Blue and Rainbow JellyfishBlack and White RavensEagle and HawkBlack Widow and Jungle SpiderPink and Black MoaLiterally every single one of the 4 pig pets!

That statement is false for the pig family , each pig give a selection of 3 random item on a specific theme :

Pig - healing and sustain (egg/seed pod/elixir of heroes)

Boar - stun and invalidate condition (Bone Crack / Throw Rock / Skull Fear)

Siamoth - Buffs and furtivity ( Plasma / Throw feathers / Blinding tuft)

Warthog - damaging conditions ( Throw gunk / Throw scale / Exploding Venom sack )

Therefore the other "double same pet" you've listed are the one from the pantheon of heroes, award from GW1 success track , that is why they are "clone" because other player can't have them and it would give an unfair advantage to those who are playing GW2 but don't have GW1. And it still give (a small) advantage to the others to slot "double same pet" ( falcon / eagle for fast F2 etc...)

And finally yes we definitely need a Pets revamp for the purpose of them working as good as the Smokescale.I think we can agree that the smokescale is clearly the best pet in a lot of situation even his F2 is too usefull to not be used...

Actually the only usable pet are :

• Ranged one because they hit fairly often ( Bristleback , Spider , Devourer)
• These with a gap closer ( Smokescale, Gazelle - even if she generally go far and say goodbye + stuck over an invisible wall when using Charge -...)
• The pet who Auto attack with a small leap inside their AA ( Feline , Birds , Dogs...)

They already made a patch for the pet in the past to give some of them the little jump forward when they AA and it was a great idea but some pet still lack these QoL changes. Especially the Moas...they are utterly trash they can't even touch their enemies in movement with their Frenzied Attack who does multiple hit...but the Gazelle does with Kick !

Even the bears are more usefull and hit more often than these little ostrich birds....

[Traceur Whisper.2159]

@Gabrya.6297 said:

@"Teratus.2859" said:

As it is now, every single clone pet in the game is needlessly wasting a pet slot in that menu purely for cosmetic reasons.

These pets are all identical clones.Blue and Rainbow JellyfishBlack and White RavensEagle and HawkBlack Widow and Jungle SpiderPink and Black MoaLiterally every single one of the 4 pig pets!

That statement is false for the pig family , each pig give a selection of 3 random item on a specific theme :

Pig - healing and sustain (egg/seed pod/elixir of heroes)

Boar - stun and invalidate condition (Bone Crack / Throw Rock / Skull Fear)

Siamoth - Buffs and furtivity ( Plasma / Throw feathers / Blinding tuft)

Warthog - damaging conditions ( Throw gunk / Throw scale / Exploding Venom sack )

Therefore the other "double same pet" you've listed are the one from the pantheon of heroes, award from GW1 success track , that is why they are "clone" because other player can't have them and it would give an unfair advantage to those who are playing GW2 but don't have GW1. And it still give (a small) advantage to the others to slot "double same pet" ( falcon / eagle for fast F2 etc...)

And finally yes we definitely need a Pets revamp for the purpose of them working as good as the Smokescale.I think we can agree that the smokescale is clearly the best pet in a lot of situation even his F2 is too usefull to not be used...

Actually the only usable pet are :

• Ranged one because they hit fairly often ( Bristleback , Spider , Devourer)
• These with a gap closer ( Smokescale, Gazelle - even if she generally go far and say goodbye + stuck over an invisible wall when using Charge -...)
• The pet who Auto attack with a small leap inside their AA ( Feline , Birds , Dogs...)

They already made a patch for the pet in the past to give some of them the little jump forward when they AA and it was a great idea but some pet still lack these QoL changes. Especially the Moas...they are utterly trash they can't even touch their enemies in movement with their Frenzied Attack who does multiple hit...but the Gazelle does with Kick !

Even the bears are more usefull and hit more often than these little ostrich birds....

I see your point! These updates would definitely be useful. A graphics update on some of the pets would be nice too, seeing as the vanilla game pets are a really low res compared to the new pets.

[Dezember.1295]

I really wanna see some new aquatic pets... Like a tank/support sea turtle...

But yeah, an overhaul for pets in general would be nice... Both look-wise, ability-wise and AI-wise.

[Teratus.2859]

@Gabrya.6297 said:

@"Teratus.2859" said:

As it is now, every single clone pet in the game is needlessly wasting a pet slot in that menu purely for cosmetic reasons.

These pets are all identical clones.Blue and Rainbow JellyfishBlack and White RavensEagle and HawkBlack Widow and Jungle SpiderPink and Black MoaLiterally every single one of the 4 pig pets!

That statement is false for the pig family , each pig give a selection of 3 random item on a specific theme :

Pig - healing and sustain (egg/seed pod/elixir of heroes)

Boar - stun and invalidate condition (Bone Crack / Throw Rock / Skull Fear)

Siamoth - Buffs and furtivity ( Plasma / Throw feathers / Blinding tuft)

Warthog - damaging conditions ( Throw gunk / Throw scale / Exploding Venom sack )

Thanks for correcting me on that, I was not aware the same F2 skill granted different items depending on the pig.My mistake.

Therefore the other "double same pet" you've listed are the one from the pantheon of heroes, award from GW1 success track , that is why they are "clone" because other player can't have them and it would give an unfair advantage to those who are playing GW2 but don't have GW1. And it still give (a small) advantage to the others to slot "double same pet" ( falcon / eagle for fast F2 etc...)

Yeah I am aware those pets are Gw1 rewards, I have them myself.It is a fair point even though they are still clone pets which whether you have them or not does mean they are wasting slots in the list for purely cosmetic reasons.I guess that leaves the Eagle and Hawk then which are both core Gw2 Pets with identical stats and ability so that is the only clone pet technically available to everyone.

And finally yes we definitely need a Pets revamp for the purpose of them working as good as the Smokescale.I think we can agree that the smokescale is clearly the best pet in a lot of situation even his F2 is too usefull to not be used...

Smoke is definitely up there yes, hits hard, tanks a lot of damage, Good CC and can evade.He's definitely overkill in a lot of cases though there are a lot of enemies immune to blind so the F2 isn't always that effective, can be used for AoE stealth though so that is a plus.

Actually the only usable pet are :

• Ranged one because they hit fairly often ( Bristleback , Spider , Devourer)
• These with a gap closer ( Smokescale, Gazelle - even if she generally go far and say goodbye + stuck over an invisible wall when using Charge -...)
• The pet who Auto attack with a small leap inside their AA ( Feline , Birds , Dogs...)

They already made a patch for the pet in the past to give some of them the little jump forward when they AA and it was a great idea but some pet still lack these QoL changes. Especially the Moas...they are utterly trash they can't even touch their enemies in movement with their Frenzied Attack who does multiple hit...but the Gazelle does with Kick !

Even the bears are more usefull and hit more often than these little ostrich birds....

I can't remember the last time I used a Moa or a Bear or a Wyvern for that matter lolUsually I stick with Jungle Stalker, Smokescale, Bristle Back or Birds Spiders and Devourers.Depends on the build.

[Dezember.1295]

@"Gabrya.6297" said:Especially the Moas...they are utterly trash they can't even touch their enemies in movement with their Frenzied Attack who does multiple hit...but the Gazelle does with Kick !Even the bears are more usefull and hit more often than these little ostrich birds....

:( The red moa is my favorite pet, along with the brown bear and the fern hound. Based solely on looks, obviously. Whenever I run open world I usually use one of these - but I obviously swap to more useful pets whenever I am doing PvP or any "harder" PvE content like fracts.

... I do like that little bit of extra range on the red moa F2 compared to the tiger... I honestly feel like the tiger sometimes doesn't give me the ferocity boon even though I am standing right on top of him. :(

... The blue moa is also the only pet that can provide protection (? correct me if I am wrong).

[Gabrya.6297]

@Dezember.1295 said:

@"Gabrya.6297" said:Especially the Moas...they are utterly trash they can't even touch their enemies in movement with their Frenzied Attack who does multiple hit...but the Gazelle does with Kick !Even the bears are more usefull and hit more often than these little ostrich birds....

:( The red moa is my favorite pet, along with the brown bear and the fern hound. Based solely on looks, obviously. Whenever I run open world I usually use one of these - but I obviously swap to more useful pets whenever I am doing PvP or any "harder" PvE content like fracts.

... I do like that little bit of extra range on the red moa F2 compared to the tiger... I honestly feel like the tiger sometimes doesn't give me the ferocity boon even though I am standing right on top of him. :(

... The blue moa is also the only pet that can provide protection (? correct me if I am wrong).

Yes the blue moa is in fact the only pet to give protection but ranger got plenty of source of protection hehe ^^''

Ah sry to make you sad but yeah moa , bear and wyvern need some love....they need to give us a patch just to revamp all the pet in game (even the necro ones ! and guard spirit got a treatment too recently !).

IMO they need to give a Gap closer to every melee pet or a little jump forward in their AA (this jump shall be really fluid).And for the ranged ones they need to give them a bash or a defensive tool because if they are focused they are like....sitting duck in front of the enemy shooting at point blank...

Last thing is that some pet when you swap them really fast and use their F2 directly the F2 goes in CD like if he was stun and thats really annoying....imagine swap from smokescale to bristleback from a fast rapid fire from the F2 and....nop 3sec CD !!Weird thing is thats the newer pet who got this bug ; the feline, birds etc don't have this problem...

[Dezember.1295]

@Gabrya.6297 said:Yes the blue moa is in fact the only pet to give protection but ranger got plenty of source of protection hehe ^^''Well, yes. Fair enough! :D

@Gabrya.6297 said:Ah sry to make you sad but yeah moa , bear and wyvern need some love....they need to give us a patch just to revamp all the pet in game (even the necro ones ! and guard spirit got a treatment too recently !).

IMO they need to give a Gap closer to every melee pet or a little jump forward in their AA (this jump shall be really fluid).And for the ranged ones they need to give them a bash or a defensive tool because if they are focused they are like....sitting duck in front of the enemy shooting at point blank...

Last thing is that some pet when you swap them really fast and use their F2 directly the F2 goes in CD like if he was stun and thats really annoying....imagine swap from smokescale to bristleback from a fast rapid fire from the F2 and....nop 3sec CD !!Weird thing is thats the newer pet who got this bug ; the feline, birds etc don't have this problem...

Hahaha, I don't hold you responsible for the state of my favorite pets, nor do I blame you for stating the fact that they could use some DEV attention... :D After all, most of us rangers just want all pets to be at least viable! More variation for all of us :D

[Drgnfly.5812]

@"Dezember.1295" said:

:( The red moa is my favorite pet, along with the brown bear and the fern hound. Based solely on looks, obviously. Whenever I run open world I usually use one of these - but I obviously swap to more useful pets whenever I am doing PvP or any "harder" PvE content like fracts.

The Moa has always been my favorite pet too! I realize they need an overhaul, but I love roaming with them in PvE. Mostly I feel a deep sense of nostalgia for the big birds. I’ve played Guild Wars since the very beginning. My first class ever was a ranger and the first pet I charmed was an Ascalonian Strider (Moa), right outside the city gates. Plus I also enjoyed Zho’s Black Moa scavenger hunt. ?

So give me a Green Moa with a regeneration screech, a Golden Moa with a resistance screech, or even a Bloodstone Moa with a nova screech! ???