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  1. 9 hours ago, Obtena.7952 said:

    To be fair, that's the point of having variety in a class-based system. Some classes are hard to play, some are easy and lots are in between ... and that's a GOOD thing for players and the game. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that the simplicity of the warrior class is by design to appeal to those players that don't want to practice Chopin etudes while playing Engi for example. It's also not unreasonable to think that there is some control lost when playing a simple class at the detriment of competitive play. There isn't much Anet can do to 'up' Warrior to be a more competitive class if they are intending it to be the 'easy' class. There is a very fine line of balance on proc'ed effects and many of the skills already have a significant load of effects on them. 

     

    I suspect the best Anet could do for warrior is kind of what we see on SB ... some variation on burst with Full Counter AND a choice of what Full Counter does for it from the GM trait. I'm hoping that the next elite spec takes that to the next level and have a F key 'toolbar' approach like Engi does to expand options and choice to address this 'simple' issue that's holding it back. 

    I was one of the guys who quit UI soups like this
    9ada107285a5fe014ef65517bf464301.jpg (736×552) (owentertainment.biz)
    to embrace gw2's simplicity. 😄


    After years people dealt that, people appreciated the gw2, a really really newb friendly game. 10/10 with badas seal it took from angryjoe (another game had it was skyrim I think lol). Even pvp was nice for a new mmo. I started as an engi, it was just fine, some road bumps here and there reading tooltips carefully did the trick. Tbh nothing to exaggerate about it. I retired it though, wanted to bash and smash things.

     

    Another example is from lotro's Warden, because that game is supposed to embrace not just rpg fans, but also movie fans and casuals. When this class was released in 2008, people were printing this and sticking it on their desks to just to play the class. Which is basically a skill-building mechanic, you must enter a specific code using building skills in a specific order to execute a bigger skill. simple idea, but it's just an insane amount of combinations and required timings. Totally not casual friendly compared to their warrior-like class.

    Warden Gambit Quick Reference - Lotro-Wiki.com

     

    But of course, today we have a lot of stuff to deal with, 18 more especs that new players don't know their pros and cons to begin with, no core only pvx content, because they have to sell the powercreep. People have to learn so much about the game compared to vanilla. Anyway sooner or later they learn, and once they learn it as warrior that game offers too little to favour their class, they will be frustrated and if they have the time they will reroll, if they don't then they will quit. Nobody can justify it by saying "because the class is basic".

     

    Yes there are some difficulty differences between gw2 classes, but that gap is so tiny, anyone can walk through it. I don't know if someone ever mentioned it somewhere, but gw2's parent NC made a mistake by calling their gladiators "the simple class" to avoid balancing the game, it didn't end up well for the Aion in the western market, way before it turned into a cash grab. So if Anet too falls into that trap to avoid balancing the game, they may start seeing more and more lost streamers to the Fortnite.

     

    One last thing about it, newer generation of players no longer chase their role playing character fantasies, mostly they don't even care much about roles anymore. First thing they ask when they start an mmo is which class is the most powerful or demanded highly in he raid groups. They don't even care about what's easy, what's not. 

     

    I totally agree on SB, that espec... I feel like it is undercooked, has lots of reused animations, rushed design, almost a sign how much crp anet gives about the warriors. With next espec, I hope they give back and improve the options warriors lost when they removed banner bundles. How about a soldier pet that we can control with a F switch to activate their bundle skills? 😂

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  2. There's always one person to say "but it's the basic class" "it's the most simple class"  really mate...


    I trust every single player can learn to play any class in this game and be good at it regardless of their level of iq, school grades, cv and psych eval. Please quit over estimating extra skillbars and abilities and don't call it complex like it's rocket science. It's not.

     

    Back to topic. Warriors does not suffer complexity issues, simply the problem is, as a heavy class, warrior does not offer same amount of damage avoidance in the melee range more than a light armour class that can nuke the crp out of the target at the same time. In that regard, people demand developers to make the class a little simpler to play. Because playing it is not as easy as other classes at the moment. If it requires warriors to gain access to certain buffs, or extra skills or more stuff to read in the build menu, yeah players can handle it, don't worry about it.

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  3. On 7/15/2021 at 7:35 PM, Obtena.7952 said:

    Well, let me be clear ... in this discussion, it's reasonable to define reward to mean something you get for completing a goal. Whether that reward is 'rewarding' to people or not, isn't what is being discussed as far as I'm concerned or from what I can tell, primarily because it's a subjective assessment. If the reward isn't 'rewarding' to some people, they already have the option to NOT spend the gold to get it, so that's not a problem. 

     

     

    REWARD | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

    Look at these people with blind faith defending selling a reward is ok,

    I simply love customers like you. 

     

     

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  4. 27 minutes ago, Hirosama Nadasaki.6792 said:

     

    In my opinion the biggest issue with their execution of "no holy trinity" design is that they designed the classes to be able to fill every role rather than any role.

    Being able to customize your class so you can make it a healer, a tank, a damage dealer, a support, or whatever else you want on a whim is amazing, however in GW2 you can be all or at least multiple of those things at the same time, which effectively kills teamwork; if each party member can fill every need they might have, then they start playing only around themselves, and don't need to interact with the rest of the group they're playing with.

    It makes the game feel like a solo game even when you're in the middle of a crowd doing an open world meta event or some such.

     

    yep. reviving someone is the only real interaction in this game. That's not restricted to combat btw. you can't trade, can't share a mount, can't spar, can't share a emote other than paid synced k-pop dance thing. 

  5. Just my opinion. Especs, especially druid and spellbreaker are giving a hint for Anet to sooner or later will have to abandon no holy trinity game design and start balancing classes inclined to rock paper scissors type of balance. Simply because now you can see a light armour class dealing great damage, but at the same time can survive in the melee range better than heavy melee. This is exclusive to gw2, confusing for any new player who played rpg games before, and it can't go on like this forever. 

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  6. 50 minutes ago, Dadnir.5038 said:

     

    These leaks just feel... wrong.

    - I'll admit that the story thing and mastery felt possible.

    - The raid thing feel all over the place. The Zu Helzer ruin are deep within ecchovald forest and he talk about aquatic creature and Kanaxai which is a GW1 boss that was found deep within the jade sea. At this point I told myself: "Ok maybe they got a sample of many raid wings."

    - Then the specializations... lol.

    1. Warrior 3 weaponsets  on 2s CD with a focus on healing (this isn't realist since with 3 weaponsets healing is probably the last thing a warrior will do),
    2. Guardian with the equivalent of shattered aegis but OP (seriously?),
    3. Nobody played the revenant with OP amount of stealth (lol again),
    4. Ranger with 3 pets at once but work very well (Yeah sure...),
    5. Thief healing by hiting it's allies "making healing power/precision/ferocity" a thing (totally irrealist, ANet would probably have to remake the game from the ground to be able to implement such thing),
    6. Necro spreading even more conditions and being OP (felt so much like pur salt being thrown that it was hillarious),
    7. lastly mesmer's spec but totally different from what the image ANet leaked intentionally represent...

     

    as much as I didn't like the suggested way for thieves to heal, I don't think it would require to remake the entire game. if they finally bring ally targeted mechanics, this may make the game very interesting.

    (and also means they admit having no rock paper scissors design's failed)

     

    btw I still dream to have a warrior espec that has proper pet soldiers to carry banners etc. or something actually worked on with interesting ideas and nice visuals. or finally having a machine gun to my ranger. I'm afraid this leak is too boring to be fake. pls tell me it's fake lol

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  7. On 7/13/2021 at 2:26 PM, Obtena.7952 said:

    That's how all content works though, so what is the outrage about? Anet sells you content that has rewards, you complete the content and you get the reward. That's not unique to this game either. Anet isn't selling a reward here, so when you say they are, you are wrong ... CONTINUALLY. 

     

    No one is being forced to buy anything ... so again, you are wrong. You don't like the price clearly ... so don't buy it. You weren't forced into doing anything you didn't want to.

     

    The whole game is sold in bits and pieces ... so again, what is the 'trap' we all fall into here? You DON'T want Anet to sell you content? If the only outrage you have is the price, then there isn't any dishonourable business practice going on here ... you're just acting out. 

     

     

     

    That's the problem you still think I outrage, this isn't true. Your favourite clothing company increases it's prices then puts a discount tag on it. And you feel happy about it. Similar stuff. Paradigm shift and profit. I like to see people happy that's why you should stop digging it. But if you're into it let's find some guy with bigger marketing background, deffinitely not a from forum and comment section nobody, and encourage him/her to make a video about it. so maybe you can understand how brainwashed people come to a point that they defend buying a reward is fine.

     

     

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    15 hours ago, saerni.2584 said:

    @Obtena.7952

     

    His disconnect is that the WvW Warclaw Reward Track skin is a "PvP achievement." As in, you pay gold to unlock the skin at the end of the track, meaning you can't earn tbla bla bla bla
     

    I get the impression that he would prefer to just have the skin sold in the gem store, although it isn't clear from his disingenuous claim earbla bla bla 
     

    I'd suggest to him blablablabla

     

    Paragraphs of nonsense, irrelevant tldr and between line insults, thanks for nothing. I made my points clear, I have no disconnect. WvW is a pvp mode, and you have no place to call anything I say disingenuous or sincere. It's not a reward when it's sold. This is a fact, and there's nothing you can do about it.

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  9. 7 hours ago, Obtena.7952 said:

    If 200g bought a reward, then you would get the reward when you spent the 200g ... but you don't, so you aren't. 

     

    Except you are getting it. If they were sellng it directly, as a skin, someone calculated it which is like 30g solo I think, that'd be ok. And if it would require you to reach a certain rank to unlock the purchase, it would be perfect.

     

    Forcing people to buy overpriced gemstore trash just to obtain a wvw reward through a sold reward mechanic in a game you can buy currency with real money, is selling the game in bits and pieces there's only one reason people can support it, because they fall to that trap and don't want to look fooled. 

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  10. 3 hours ago, Obtena.7952 said:

    Sure ... and it's not a problem because you have choice to buy it or not ... but no one was questioning your opinion of Anet's business practices anyways, so let's not deflect onto some other random topic to make it appear like you had a point to begin with.

     

    Doesn't make any sense to me. You sound extremely confused. First you question my opinions, then saying no one's questioning it, which is it?  Seriously, cut to the chase. Had enough platitudinarians making me read nonsense between the lines in the forums of games.

     

    3 hours ago, Obtena.7952 said:

     

    The issue here is with the posts you have been making and wrongly saying Anet is selling rewards. They aren't. They are selling access to content. Yes, content has rewards ... that's typical and even expected. 

     


    There is no issue with the posts I've been making, What I said about rewards wasn't wrong. Yes, they are selling a reward. 

     

    3 hours ago, Obtena.7952 said:

    So what is the outrageous element here that's enraging you to claim Anet has 'dishonourabe' business practice going on? 

    I explained it, you didn't read it.

     

    3 hours ago, Obtena.7952 said:

     I mean, why WOULDN'T you want Anet sell you access to content ... unless you felt so entitled to content that you should get it for free? 

     

    I told this before, again you didn't read. I don't care if they sell it in the gemstore, If you're going to sell it, remove anything that mentions a reward, I can't stand watching people treated like 'diots. Even if they like it to be that way.

     

     

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  11. 2 minutes ago, Obtena.7952 said:

    It's not relevant how you think here because there isn't any subjective about what you are getting for 200g.  It's VERY clear what you get for 200g ... and it's not reward. It's access to a reward track, which is the same as any other content Anet would sell you. 

     

    right,  not a reward. it's the only thing that is objective about it 

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  12. 5 minutes ago, Manasa Devi.7958 said:

    I never felt anything of the 1983 crash, though I have read about it. I was too young to be bothered with economic trends anyway. I think it was mostly to do with 1st generation consoles, primarily the Atari 2600, losing consumer appeal. I used to have one and switched to "home computers" early on. First, a VIC-20, and soon after a Commodore 64. I got my C64 in the very same 1983, coincidentally, or perhaps not. Many people I knew were buying it at the time so maybe we were part of the cause for the crash.

     

    The quality of games for the Atari had become quite terrible over the years and I had stopped buying them well before 1983. I was fortunate to have a video rental store near me that also rented out Atari games so I never fell victim to buying a dud, but I played plenty of rented ones for just a week, and made do with the ones I collected over the early years. The C64 pretty much conquered the world and the games on offer were so much better than late Atari stuff, it was frankly no contest.

     

    So, I don't think there is much similarity between then and now. One of the problems in '83 I remember seeing covered in a documentary was an enormous amount of unsold stock. That's a problem that will probably rarely exist again in the age of software downloads.

     

    You guys had the best of times really. Could only caught late 80's myself. Thanks for the insight!

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  13. 10 minutes ago, Obtena.7952 said:

    I don't know any ... INCLUDING Anet because Anet isn't selling PVP achievement related rewards by selling you access to content, like reward tracks.

     

    I don't think I'm the only one thinks that way, I spent most of my time in mmos in wvw type of pvp modes. What I observed is, these people take enormous pride in their work., they want their ranks or kills or efforts to get rewarded.

     

    Look at the design of it. wvw mount skin that has guild symbol on it. It doesn't glow or spread particles, it's surely designed for teams. Then, you see a vendor that sells its track. Everyone should see the pattern here. It's obvously a rushed last minute change to monetize wvw. And it's low.

     

    again, I understand what your point clearly,

    What I say will remain the same, however. It's the first of its kind, and a total shame.

     

    /out

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  14. 2 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said:

    You keep repeating the same thing since the moment you started posting here, you have nothing valid to respond, so you retort to repeating "it's CALLED REWARD! And you PAY for the track, so you BUY THE REWARD" (no, you don't) interchangable with "omg mobile gaming generation!". Pretending you're not responding because you got insulted by calling your posts "crying" just doesn't really work how 😕

     

    Look who's complaining now.

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  15. 1 minute ago, Sobx.1758 said:

    You say you "Read a block of bla blas really", because you clearly have nothing relevant to say and your tears are unreasonable. Sure, some people complain when something is not just, but this is clearly not one of those cases.

    I already said what I had to say, you insulted it by saying it's crying. To me it's unnecesary to discuss with you.

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  16. 1 minute ago, Obtena.7952 said:

    No, selling a pvp reward track is not selling rewards.  Anet is not the first game dev to sell access to content. 

     

    ok. the other game that sells pvp achievement related rewards please?

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  17. 5 minutes ago, Obtena.7952 said:

    No, it's not. The content is not the reward. The content is the track. The Rewards are only things you get when you complete the content. 

     

    I get you are trying hard to paint this like it's exceptional, but everything in the game is like this. You pay for access to content and you do the content and you get the items that are associated as rewards for doing that content. This track is no different. 

     

    I'm not painting it. It's the fact. this action, selling a pvp reward track, which is a forced black market items package deal, is first of its kind. If there's another mmo, especially a western mmo sells their pvp related items for this much money, I'd like to know it.

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  18. 1 minute ago, Sobx.1758 said:

    Yes, the system used in wvw is called WvW. It doesn't mean you're "buying a reward" (attempt #101, because multiple people already wrote that), it means you're getting access to the "reward track", which isn't an equivalent of "buying a reward". It's just a name of a system implemented in the game mode.

    When I see someone pointlessly cry and I point that out, it doesn't somehow make me "mad", so no worries, all is fine on this side of the screen. 

     

     

    I just read a block of bla blas really. People complain when something is not just, deal with it. 

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  19. 1 minute ago, Obtena.7952 said:

    Except it's not a matter of opinion ... you aren't buying a reward. You are paying to unlock access to content. 

     

    and that content is a pvp mode reward.

    a low that even zenimax online haven't reached yet.

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  20. 2 minutes ago, Obtena.7952 said:

    Sure, but you aren't buying a reward. You are buying access to content that has rewards in it. 

     

    No government will see this as an issue, because paying for access to content is a VERY old and established form of economy. 

    I heard this exact same thing about lootboxes 10 years ago. Cutting content to increase profits is a not an old and deffinitely not a future proof form of economy.

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