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Why should i be concerned with their business? You want Anet to take you seriously and tell them how to change their business, but you could care less about how they conduct their business? There you have it I guess. Like I said, you only see things in your microcosm, then there isn't much reason to listen to you. As much as you want to, you can't remove the fact that the game is a front for a business. Changing the game has a business impact, ESPECIALLY with the introduction of mounts in WvW.

There is a difference between general/balance changes and game-changing/breaking(for a specific group of people) changes. For many players i know this is basically the equivalent of removing a gamemode, all of them but 3 quit, and of the 3 only 1 still playes regularly while the other playes once per week now, while before they all played almost every day. And there isn't even a real gain except anet making more money, but when other companies do these kinda things for money people don't symphatize with them either. You can't tell me it's not a cashgrab. I'm talking game design, nothing else, not PR, not profits, just game design. Anet makes all kinds of changes that players think are game-changing but that has never stopped them from making those changes. Players leave, players come ... not reasons to simply sit back and not change the game. What I said still holds. The fact you DON'T consider this is a business is exactly the reason your complaint can't be looked at seriously. You're just another player that only sees the change as something that negatively affects them, in their own little bubble of the game environment ... no ability (or attempt more like it) to see the bigger picture.

Whether it's insensitive or not is irrelevant; if Anet only made changes to the game that people were not sensitive too, they would never make changes.Game changes happen all the time that people don't like. It's not exceptional.

That's not true at all ... the game changes in ways that affect all people's fun, both in a negative and positive way. Don't try and play like you are the first person ever affected by Anet's game changing decisions here. It happens all time. It just so happened to you this time. No one has a problem with complaining, but it isn't clever to complain behind the ruse that there is something wrong with the class because you are bored with it. If you are bored, go play another class. If you can't find a class/build that doesn't make you bored, then it makes no sense to complain about that because Anet isn't going to change the game around you.

The problem isn't that it's hard to dismount or that there aren't many classes that have builds that can do it. The problem that the OP has is that doesn't want to have to dismount people to fight them and the thread is a thinly veiled ruse to complain about the fact that mounts ruin his fun in WvW. Hhence since mounts have been introduced and he's been playing ranger, he's already bored of it. It's not about the class, it's about disliking dismounting. The problem is that you can't catch up with said people to dismount them, and even when close on a melee class you can't dismount because they can easilly bolt off. In the past i could easillly chase anything but a daredevil, now i can't chase anything anymore. Literally no class can dismount someone if their intention is to get away as soon as they entered WvW. I asked again and again, but no one answers: No class can dismount the person in this situation when before mounts this would have ensued a fight. I don't dislike dismounting, if the mounts where swiftness walkspeed and had 2 dodges i'd have zero problems with them, nor the dismounting @Zaraki.5784 CC immunity, free swiftness, 2 extra dodges and a 10k barrier would still be seen as OP if given for free if you would ask anyone pre-mounts, so it wouldn't be useless before people will wave that around again. I don't see how asking for the mounts to not be unbalanced to the point it is free passage in a pvp mode is a bad thing.If there are some situations you can't dismount players, so be it. I don't see what that has to do with being bored of ranger though ... the purpose of the thread? or maybe just a way to launch another complaint about mounts in WvW.

The problem isn't that it's hard to dismount or that there aren't many classes that have builds that can do it. The problem that the OP has is that doesn't want to have to dismount people to fight them and the thread is a thinly veiled ruse to complain about the fact that mounts ruin his fun in WvW. Hhence since mounts have been introduced and he's been playing ranger, he's already bored of it. It's not about the class, it's about disliking dismounting.

No, this is not a good idea ... there needs to be SOME kind of time penalty for deaths. The whole point of defeating your enemy isn't so they pseudo-instantly pop back into the action. Warclaw has lessened the while keeping the time penalty reasonable and also not completely risk free either.

Really? So you don't think Anet's game changes make toxicity or that they are killing off the player base now? Finally, a convert!!! SUCCESS!!! What?You really need to read and focus man and actually understand the words being used. If you're trolling then 0/10. It's not trolling ... you continually tell me you agree with me and I continually tell you I don't think Anet's game changes make toxicity or that they are killing off the player base. What's the problem here? That you're diverting from what I agreed with. Absolutely no comprehensive skills too. Ill say it a third time: I agree this is Anets game and can take it any new direction they feel wether people like it or not.I'm diverting from it because I'm not here to high five you on agreeing with me on a point that is a obvious fact. Great, you agree that Anet controls the game ... and so what? No one cares. Otherwise, you are wrong; it's not game changes that make toxicity (or me because I don't agree with you) and they aren't killing off the player base because they want to make those changes. And since you don'y think you need anything more than playing the game to make your claims, I don't think I need anything more than that to make mine either.

Really? So you don't think Anet's game changes make toxicity or that they are killing off the player base now? Finally, a convert!!! SUCCESS!!! What?You really need to read and focus man and actually understand the words being used. If you're trolling then 0/10. It's not trolling ... you continually tell me you agree with me and I continually tell you I don't think Anet's game changes make toxicity or that they are killing off the player base. What's the problem here?

Really? So you don't think Anet's game changes make toxicity or that they are killing off the player base now? Finally, a convert!!! SUCCESS!!! I mean, that's what we are talking about here. If you agree that it's Anet's game and they can do what they want (unlike the OP), that's good because it's an obvious fact. There isn't anything to disagree with there.

No, it actually does, because there isn't a right or wrong here ... the relevant view is the one Anet has because they decide how the game works. Same with EA .. they run their business the way they want, what anyone thinks of that is irrelevant, including the average player. For once you said something I can agree with..ANET can take the game what ever direction they want even if its killing off thier player base and producing extreme toxicity.Some will defend it, the rest who have been loyal for years will try and speak up about it before leaving the mode and probably the game. Hey, if you had data to show this is what has happened instead of guessing the overall impact Anet's changes have on the game because you don't like them, your post might have been worth the time you took to make it. You dont need data for that, you just had to play the mode premount. Not all of us started WvW when the mount came out like you did. That makes no sense. You don't know how many people do or don't play just because you play the game; you DO need data if you are going to make those claims, otherwise, your just making up things to suit your arguments. If there is extreme toxicity, it's not from the people that joined WvW because of the mount or after its introduction... it's from the people complaining about it ... like you. How ironic you complain about extreme toxicity when people like you are the source. /shrug. Doesn't really change what I said ... Anet is going to change the game in the direction they want; it's expected there will be shifts in populations when that happens, so it's not an argument to not make changes anyways. Its actually players like you who are toxic. So I'm the one bring toxicity to the WvW by complaining about mounts? That doesn't make sense. I don't have a problem with mounts, I'm not making up false truths about how many people have left because of them. I made no 'sky is falling' threads about it. I'm not toxic just because I don't agree with you. And mounts fix some of the problems that people have been complaining about. Maybe not the problems you want fixed, but that doesn't mean they don't address some of them. I never said that.I said your toxic for the exact reasons you just did now. No you didn't ... you said the game change is making extreme toxicity ... and it's not coming from players like me because I'm not making the QQ threads about mounts. I didn't make that game change; I didn't make all the mount QQ posts ... it was the people complaining about the change the created the toxicity. There isn't anything toxic about acknowledging Anet controls the game changes and players have to adapt to them ... that's just ridiculous. Don't deflect here. And no, you aren't agreeing with me because I don't agree that Anet's direction is causing toxicity (it's the players complaining doing that) or that the direction is killing off the player base. As long as we aren't using data, then I will say the change is building the player base, based on the same way you determine it's killing it ... by just playing. You admit to heaps of people making threads and you still continue with "everything is fine"..Do you not understand the contradictions there or just choose to ignore it?You're also in every one of those threads telling people where to go even for just asking for a little bit of balance.That's untrue ... I'm not against Anet making balance changes to Warclaw at all and I don't think everything is fine; I don't think everything catastrophic either, like the Op would like everyone to believe. What I said still stands here ... I don't agree that Anet's change make toxicity or that they are killing off the player base. Don't get all uppity with me because you quote me to support things you think that I don't agree with. I'm simply clarifying so people don't misunderstand what I said because you used it in a way that was not inline with what I meant.

No, it actually does, because there isn't a right or wrong here ... the relevant view is the one Anet has because they decide how the game works. Same with EA .. they run their business the way they want, what anyone thinks of that is irrelevant, including the average player. For once you said something I can agree with..ANET can take the game what ever direction they want even if its killing off thier player base and producing extreme toxicity.Some will defend it, the rest who have been loyal for years will try and speak up about it before leaving the mode and probably the game. Hey, if you had data to show this is what has happened instead of guessing the overall impact Anet's changes have on the game because you don't like them, your post might have been worth the time you took to make it. You dont need data for that, you just had to play the mode premount. Not all of us started WvW when the mount came out like you did. That makes no sense. You don't know how many people do or don't play just because you play the game; you DO need data if you are going to make those claims, otherwise, your just making up things to suit your arguments. If there is extreme toxicity, it's not from the people that joined WvW because of the mount or after its introduction... it's from the people complaining about it ... like you. How ironic you complain about extreme toxicity when people like you are the source. /shrug. Doesn't really change what I said ... Anet is going to change the game in the direction they want; it's expected there will be shifts in populations when that happens, so it's not an argument to not make changes anyways. Its actually players like you who are toxic. So I'm the one bring toxicity to the WvW by complaining about mounts? That doesn't make sense. I don't have a problem with mounts, I'm not making up false truths about how many people have left because of them. I made no 'sky is falling' threads about it. I'm not toxic just because I don't agree with you. And mounts fix some of the problems that people have been complaining about. Maybe not the problems you want fixed, but that doesn't mean they don't address some of them. I never said that.I said your toxic for the exact reasons you just did now. No you didn't ... you said the game change is making extreme toxicity ... and it's not coming from players like me because I'm not making the QQ threads about mounts. I didn't make that game change; I didn't make all the mount QQ posts ... it was the people complaining about the change the created the toxicity. There isn't anything toxic about acknowledging Anet controls the game changes and players have to adapt to them ... that's just ridiculous. Don't deflect here. And no, you aren't agreeing with me because I don't agree that Anet's direction is causing toxicity (it's the players complaining doing that) or that the direction is killing off the player base. As long as we aren't using data, then I will say the change is building the player base, based on the same way you determine it's killing it ... by just playing.

No, it actually does, because there isn't a right or wrong here ... the relevant view is the one Anet has because they decide how the game works. Same with EA .. they run their business the way they want, what anyone thinks of that is irrelevant, including the average player. For once you said something I can agree with..ANET can take the game what ever direction they want even if its killing off thier player base and producing extreme toxicity.Some will defend it, the rest who have been loyal for years will try and speak up about it before leaving the mode and probably the game. Hey, if you had data to show this is what has happened instead of guessing the overall impact Anet's changes have on the game because you don't like them, your post might have been worth the time you took to make it. You dont need data for that, you just had to play the mode premount. Not all of us started WvW when the mount came out like you did. That makes no sense. You don't know how many people do or don't play just because you play the game; you DO need data if you are going to make those claims, otherwise, your just making up things to suit your arguments. If there is extreme toxicity, it's not from the people that joined WvW because of the mount or after its introduction... it's from the people complaining about it ... like you. How ironic you complain about extreme toxicity when people like you are the source. /shrug. Doesn't really change what I said ... Anet is going to change the game in the direction they want; it's expected there will be shifts in populations when that happens, so it's not an argument to not make changes anyways. Its actually players like you who are toxic.So I'm the one bring toxicity to the WvW by complaining about mounts? That doesn't make sense. I don't have a problem with mounts, I'm not making up false truths about how many people have left because of them. I made no 'sky is falling' threads about it. I'm not toxic just because I don't agree with you. And mounts fix some of the problems that people have been complaining about. Maybe not the problems you want fixed, but that doesn't mean they don't address some of them.

No, it actually does, because there isn't a right or wrong here ... the relevant view is the one Anet has because they decide how the game works. Same with EA .. they run their business the way they want, what anyone thinks of that is irrelevant, including the average player. For once you said something I can agree with..ANET can take the game what ever direction they want even if its killing off thier player base and producing extreme toxicity.Some will defend it, the rest who have been loyal for years will try and speak up about it before leaving the mode and probably the game. Hey, if you had data to show this is what has happened instead of guessing the overall impact Anet's changes have on the game because you don't like them, your post might have been worth the time you took to make it. You dont need data for that, you just had to play the mode premount. Not all of us started WvW when the mount came out like you did.That makes no sense. You don't know how many people do or don't play just because you play the game; you DO need data if you are going to make those claims, otherwise, your just making up things to suit your arguments. If there is extreme toxicity, it's not from the people that joined WvW because of the mount or after its introduction... it's from the people complaining about it ... like you. How ironic you complain about extreme toxicity when people like you are the source. /shrug. Doesn't really change what I said ... Anet is going to change the game in the direction they want; it's expected there will be shifts in populations when that happens, so it's not an argument to not make changes anyways.

No, it actually does, because there isn't a right or wrong here ... the relevant view is the one Anet has because they decide how the game works. Same with EA .. they run their business the way they want, what anyone thinks of that is irrelevant, including the average player. For once you said something I can agree with..ANET can take the game what ever direction they want even if its killing off thier player base and producing extreme toxicity.Some will defend it, the rest who have been loyal for years will try and speak up about it before leaving the mode and probably the game. Hey, if you had data to show this is what has happened instead of guessing the overall impact Anet's changes have on the game because you don't like them, your post might have been worth the time you took to make it.

That's nice ... so you're imply Anet doesn't care about the game now? I'm pretty sure they do ... See, that's the problem ... Anet has to care about both, otherwise the game you care about wouldn't exist. This isn't a charity ... As I suspected, your business acumen is lacking.

That's nice ... so you're imply Anet doesn't care about the game now? That's ridiculous.

Honestly, fearmongering isn't necessary. Anet will direct the game in a way they want and of course, they will direct it in a way that will maintain it as a business. Implying they can't do that AND listen to players is ridiculous. To be honest, Warclaw IS Anet listening to players because it does fix some problems players expressed with WvW ... AND directing the game in a way that will maintain it as a business as well. I know the OP thinks different because he think it's some clever tactic to continually impose his own ideas on Anet about how the game should work as if there are some rules about how that's done ... and he's enforcing them ... I can only assume there is a lack of business acumen there.

You should because if you speak to what is relevant, then things you say start making sense. It doesn't make sense to think that your perspective on what WvW should be is THE CORRECT way and is what should be done. I mean, clearly your goal is just to be sour and angry ... so yeah I can see how making sense here isn't your goal in the first place.

No, it actually does, because there isn't a right or wrong here ... the relevant view is the one Anet has because they decide how the game works. Same with EA .. they run their business the way they want, what anyone thinks of that is irrelevant, including the average player.

OK so Anet implements changes to move away from open world PVP ... and you claim it's flawed design. That doesn't make sense. I'm pretty sure Anet knows what direction they want the game to take better than you do. Your comments are just a big joke, yes, they are killing the mode to sell skins to casuals that want to ktrain, that does make the mode worse as a world PvP mode which it was made as, stop deluding yourself and just say that they wanted to cash in on casuals as last resort before the mode dies off. All i have seen you say over the past couple weeks is ridiculous loopholes to make their design sound not questionable when it clearly is when viewed from the pov of any open world PvP, or even PvP gamer in general, heck, present this to non-Gw2 players from world PvP games and they will think it is ridiculous.You're view is wrong then ... Anet directs the game, not you.

Actually, the best solution is to learn how to play, unlike some people that continually spread nonsense about how necros can't get teams because they haven't done so.

Some sort of name checker would be nice. THAT is a reasonable ask ... I too would like

AH I know the answer to this one ... fighting an NPC doesn't bring the false sense of awesomeness and PWN that ganking a player does.

OK so Anet implements changes to move away from open world PVP ... and you claim it's flawed design. That doesn't make sense. I'm pretty sure Anet knows what direction they want the game to take better than you do. Anyways, the thread itself is pretty telling ... at least you are trying. You're bored of playing Ranger only ... but you didn't have a problem playing thief only before the Warclaw. HUM ... There are many ways to dismount if you want to build around it. You will figure it out, just keep trying.