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Have you chosen traits? Skills for your hotbar? You see, the choices you have made to create your character are the same choices you are saying you can use to not take advantage of mounts ... yet you've made those choices in gear to get advantages ... so choosing traits/skills/armor prefix for their advantages ... that's OK, choosing to use a mount for theirs ... that's not? Seems to me that you have a little contradiction going. So no, you are wrong ... mounts DO give advantages. It's the reason people use them ... just like gear/skills and stats. If mounts were just cosmetic, they wouldn't have purpose, there wouldn't BE a reason to choose them, but they aren't ... just like gear/skills and stats. People that use mounts choose them for the specific advantage they need ... just like people using gear choose them for the specific advantages they give. If you can't see how mounts are just another piece of equippable gear that you can choose to give you advantages ... then you should probably rethink your understanding of the game. Now, I don't think mounts should be outside of paid content. One reason IS that they give some advantages to paid players; I don't see a problem with that. But it IS important to be honest and see what those advantages are and how they affect the old content. This isn't something that can be simply dismissed with lols and insults.

Why aren't they still hard? Because the hard parts are skipped by jumping in the bunny. did you not read all what i said? Saving time isn't advantageous if ya'll having competition or a race or something sure but other then that i think your view point is struggling to justify the means of an advantage lol. In other words you are just making up craziness to create a new type of advantage because lets be honest someone saving time isn't an advantage at all they not hurting your play time if you think you are wasting time doing vistas then don't do them. No one forcing you to play the game or the side stuff within. Sorry, I have a question for you ... What kind of armor do you wear? Exotic? Rare? Depends I used rare for long time about 2 years accross all my chars guess what i got "been there done that" title while wearing rare armor lmao so idk what argument you trying to pull out of the void, but it wont take off with me. Armor has nothing to do with mounts has nothing to do with vistas either lets stay on topic.I'm not asking you what armor you had, I'm asking you what armor you HAVE now. .. and yes, this has lots to do with your argument that mounts don't offer an advantage if you don't use them and Anet didn't tell us to use mounts. Think about it. People using a mounts to avoid undesirable content (because it saves you time or aggravation) is the same as choosing armor. Choosing the right armor in this game is done to save you time and aggravation because it allows you to die less and enjoy the game the way you want. Make no mistake though, both are an advantage for these reasons. you are right ... Anet doesn't tell me to use mounts to avoid content ... but I do ... the same way Anet doesn't tell me what armor to use ... but I choose that too for the same reasons. And I bet you do to. The only difference here is that you're cherrypicking the advantages you think are OK and not. I'm pretty certain you don't run around in blue nomads armor. Even more generally, ANY choice you make in gear for that matter ... and there in lies the problem with the contradiction you're exhibiting. You don't think mounts are an advantage because you don't have to use them and Anet didn't tell you to use them? OK ... but obviously I can say that about ANYTHING I equip, and I'm betting you aren't just running around with 'whatever'. Truly, whether or not mounts are an advantage isn't the question here, but it is a fundamental fact that can't be denied by any reasonable person who can see what can be done with them in the game ... just like choosing the right gear and traits.This is an important thing to acknowledge if you want anyone to think you are more than just trolling.

Why aren't they still hard? Because the hard parts are skipped by jumping in the bunny. did you not read all what i said? Saving time isn't advantageous if ya'll having competition or a race or something sure but other then that i think your view point is struggling to justify the means of an advantage lol. In other words you are just making up craziness to create a new type of advantage because lets be honest someone saving time isn't an advantage at all they not hurting your play time if you think you are wasting time doing vistas then don't do them. No one forcing you to play the game or the side stuff within.Sorry, I have a question for you ... What kind of armor do you wear? Exotic? Rare?

Why aren't they still hard? Because the hard parts are skipped by jumping in the bunny.

What advantage do people have with mounts over those without mounts? Come on, tell me an example... Not just an imaginary one, a real one.People didn't buy PoF to have an advantage over f2p players, they bought it because most of them already did the content you're complaining about now (and are enjoying for free while the majority of the players had to pay for what you're playing free now). So since most players already did 100% map completion in core tyria and probably also HoT, they bought it for some new game content which happen to be mounts among other things. They certainly didn't buy it just to "win" at core tyria maps. There is actually an advantage .. it's much easier to get around and do map completion. Remember all those hard to jump to vistas? Not anymore ... just break our the Rabbit. Remember the days when Guardian had to take Traveler's runes? not anymore, any mount get's you whereever you want fast. It's also super easy to avoid areas in OW packed with mobs with mounts. Running through some places was just not an option, now mounts ignore immobilize, etc.... you can go whereever you want with impunity. Don't get me wrong though ... even though there are advantages, i don't think the OP is correct in thinking they shouldn't be available outside a paid expansion. That is not an advantage, that's a "quality of life" improvement if anything. There are no unreachable areas on core Tyria that require mounts. Some are even designed to not be reachable easily to make it fun to look for paths to them. That's what we did when we had no mounts and everyone did map completion regardless of mounts. I did mine a week or two before i actually bought the expansions. It's not hard to youtube a vista or something you don't know how to get to and look at the path instead of jumping to it with a rabbit. You can also go wherever you want in core Tyria too. Running is an option, aggro radius is not that huge like in PoF. And if some earea is giving someone trouble then perhaps they're not leveled enough or geared enough to be there yet. So instead of using mounts, those players could go level some more. That's the game's way of telling people "yo, level or gear up or you'll have your kitten handed to you in later content". If they bypass that with mounts, they'll never learn. :wink: An advantage would be if players with mounts have get bigger XP, karma and loot rewards for using mounts in events and map completion over those that don't. Since the rewards are the same for everyone, there's no advantage to speak of there. Mounts in core tyria are just a QoL improvement for people that already did that content. If i'm being honest, i'd personally lock mounts and the whole PoF if you didn't finish your personal story and are lvl 80. That way core Tyria still has relevance (if people think it's not relevant anymore) and no one can QQ that someone has cool toys and they don't.No, it is an advantage. Some of these things trivalize the game as it was intended. As just one example ... before there were hard vistas ... and they were designed that way. Now with mounts there are none. Another example ... you could be controlled by mobs as you ran past them, now you are immune to these effects. These are definitely advantages, as they save you time ... saving time in any MMO is an advantage. No, those are not QoL improvements. Mounts making content irrelevant is not QoL.

What advantage do people have with mounts over those without mounts? Come on, tell me an example... Not just an imaginary one, a real one.People didn't buy PoF to have an advantage over f2p players, they bought it because most of them already did the content you're complaining about now (and are enjoying for free while the majority of the players had to pay for what you're playing free now). So since most players already did 100% map completion in core tyria and probably also HoT, they bought it for some new game content which happen to be mounts among other things. They certainly didn't buy it just to "win" at core tyria maps. There is actually an advantage .. it's much easier to get around and do map completion. Remember all those hard to jump to vistas? Not anymore ... just break our the Rabbit. Remember the days when Guardian had to take Traveler's runes? not anymore, any mount get's you whereever you want fast. It's also super easy to avoid areas in OW packed with mobs with mounts. Running through some places was just not an option, now mounts ignore immobilize, etc.... you can go whereever you want with impunity. Don't get me wrong though ... even though there are advantages, i don't think the OP is correct in thinking they shouldn't be available outside a paid expansion.

As someone that always tried to make condi Guardian work ... the choice is obvious for me. It's a bitter sweet feeling though. Now Anet just hands is a complete condition build, no challenge to make it work anymore.

No I didn't know that ... THANKS!

I find it too small a bar to easily select. Thanks.