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Dropped a rant, refused to elaborate and left LMAO. If someone could close these kinds of threads it'd be great.

LMAO that video is funny, literally a bongo stick. As for the boons you're seeing, they are from the Jade Tech Offensive Protocol and Jade Tech Defensive Protocol. Every class has access to these and I actually recommend grabbing them for open world PvE, takes only 5 minutes or less to get 2 hours of buffs (guide for that is here).

Not everyone cares about April Fools, builds look fine.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Movement_Speed#Maximizing_movement_speed In short to maximize in combat movement speed, you need Swiftness + Relic of Speed + 5 stacks of Rising Momentum.

Huh after more time on Vindi I’m feeling like using sword/sword again, needed the burst damage from it. Also I’m running into energy issue especially when kiting or disengaging, too easy to get stun locked and having no energy to stun break, although that’s mainly a skill issue. Still too unfamiliar with Alliance stance, I don’t manage energy well with it plus can’t keep track of if Luxon or Kurzicks stance is active yet.

Ah okay, I don't use sword/sword, I'm running shortbow right now. I like that shortbow has CC which vindi lacks.

How do you have perma fury? Invoker's Rage in Invocation only gives 5s of Fury, even with Dura/Surging runes (15% boon duration) it's only 5.75s. Edit: For my vindi build there's Riposting Shadow in Shiro and Scavenger Burst in Alliance that give fury. Almost enough to keep up fury, I think my main issue is I linger in Alliance for too long.

Ah okay, I only look at Retribution in PvE. It's way worse in WvW and with Vindicator, makes sense why nobody is running it. Looking forward to the videos, I'm having issues with going defensive. Right now I'm just spamming dodges and heals and Tree Song.

@Buran.3796 have you tried Retribution instead of Salvation? At first look it gives endurance regen, vigor, resolution which helps with condi, and more damage dealt and less strike damage taken while resolution is up. Seems pretty good no?

Few things after a long session: - Feels like when running Salvation/Invocation I do need Death Drop. Damage difference is significant enough. - Shortbow is super helpful, as soon as you run into an opponent who can kite well you're dead. Sword/Sword has sword 3 and 5 but Shortbow is probably more versatile, and the added CC is pretty nice. - Staff is nice as always but it kinda scuffs your damage too much, at least if we run pHerald, Glint still has an a CC and 2 damage skills. With more frequent dodges and added sustain from Salvation, I don't find myself missing staff (as much as I thought I would). - My defense absolutely sucks. Any tips for defense, e.g rotation, how to kite, etc.? Overall I'm enjoying it. The skill ceiling is there the potential is there. A bit difficult switching to a new build after 5 years but it's more fun than I thought, especially the frequent dodges.

Interestingly I see @Buran.3796 uses Forerunner of Death while @Sereath.1428 uses Saint of zu Heltzer, and I've been trying out the other one. Any insights into the different dodges?

@Buran.3796 yeah I run Swift Termination instead of Dance of Death. If I swap Salvation out for Devastation, the damage increase is quite noticeable. But the cleanse and heal and reduced damage taken on dodge seem too good to not take too. I'll probably try both out, but given how condi builds are the bane of my existence, I'm leaning towards Salvation for now. How's the damage of the build you linked? I see you're not running Incensed Response either, is having little to no might a problem? Surging + Rapid Flow solve the movement speed problem though, I've been feeling pretty slow on my Vindicator. As you can see it took me 4-5 years to get over the fact that pHerald isn't as viable anymore, legend swaps don't stun break and we no longer have perma 25 might. I'm sure I'll struggle a lot this weekend too, but at least I'm enjoying Vindicator gameplay. Couldn't say the same about Renegade...

@Sereath.1428 yeah that's a good point about Herald. What Invocation traits do you go with? I'm not sure if I should take Spirit Boon + Song of the Mists or Incensed Response + Rolling Mists. For runes I'm thinking something like firework, surging or scholar, but not sure how important boon duration is. And what about relics?

Hey all, just returned from a 2-year break, and I've been looking for a good power rev build for WvW roaming (since I just prefer power over condi/cele overall). I used to play power herald but recently I'm just helpless when it comes to condi builds. I used to be able to deal with condi back before the big update in 2020 but since then I don't have the damage to finish them off anymore. I see that Salvation is quite popular now, more cleanse more sustain, but I'm unsure about the missing Devastation and losing damage. So what are some ways I could make a power build work? - Would Salvation/Invocation/Herald and GS/Sword+shield work? Helps with cleanse, but I'm unsure about the damage loss since we don't have Devastation. - The alternative is going for Vindicator instead of Herald, but we lose out on fury. Also if we take Alliance can we swap Salvation for Devastation or is Salvation still mandatory? This is what I have in mind, although I'm still unsure about fury uptime and the second weapon set. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmxAEx7lZSMsTyjlSdMUijpSksSign1UWMF-DWRYBhMyUMqp8yOjMlCdqC043AOqmBA-w. Also any tips regarding Vindicator gameplay is welcome. I've only played Power Herald since 2018 so I'm totally blind when it comes to Vindicator - for example how to cleanse efficiently, chain evade, heal (I see both Alliance heals are 1.5s channels), how to burst, etc. Thanks in advance.

How is this contributing to the conversation when literally the first sentence the OP wrote was "power Willbender feels so incredibly stale, uninspired, and completely behind the condition variant"?

As for the TubbyTwoTon (TubbyEatWorld) mention, if you watch him, pay attention to how he times his burst (usually legend swap to proc hydro sigil and Shiro F2/Sword 2) - for example after the opponent's dodges, defensive skills, or in the middle of some vulnerable skills. He also has a habit of going defensive right after doing a burst by swapping to staff or dodging out and kiting, watching for the opponent's reaction. I fought him before and his burst timing and defensive timing are impeccable, especially the former as he was somewhat able to make sword/shield works, while I can never let go of sword offhand.

A few things about the build: - Staff is a strong defensive and utility weapon, I usually swap to it if I feel like I will get pressured (Reaper going into Shroud, Warrior going into Rampage, Holo going into Photon Forge, etc.), or if I run out of cooldowns on my other weapon set and want to kite. Shortbow + Mace/Axe feels a bit too offensive imo. - As for energy management, GuildJen's build uses Charged Mists - which resets energy to 75 when swapping legend if your current energy is below 10, so made sure to exhaust your energy before swapping legend. And if you manage to do that, 75 energy is a lot, it allows you to use some weapon skills and to do a stunbreak (Shiro or Jalis), and you can turn on the upkeep skills if needed. And of course energy management isn't easy, it will come with practice. - Shiro is quite strong in WvW. Phase Traversal is probably one of the strongest skills in the game - it teleports you to the target, through terrain and line of sight, as long as there is a valid path, it's 1200 range, and gives you unblockable and quickness. Riposting Shadow is very costly but also quite good - stun break, evade, some condi cleanse, and endurance gain. You should give it a try - imo it's better than Mallyx for WvW.

I mean you can be a sylvari rev and use Ventari, seems pretty fitting to me.

No... please read the whole patch notes. So from rank 1-149 you get 1 extra pips, 150-669 you get 2 extra pips, and so on.

I don't see any resemblance to Engineer - engineer has tool kits while revenant has actual legends from the world of Tyria, very different theme. Swapping legends is also very mechanically different from using tool kits: Using tool kits only puts them on a 1 second cooldown, where you use the relevant skills and probably swap back to your weapon skills, while with revenant swapping legends is a huge deal depending on your trait setup: It can reset energy to 50 or 75, give you Fury, trigger sigil effects, give you other boons and/or do AoE damage and condis, and remove 1 condition. Legend swapping therefore is also the main way you gain energy back, which is different from thief's Initiatives system. On revenant you also have to manage cooldowns, which thief's weapon skills don't have. I do agree there are similarities, but the overall themes and mechanics of the two classes are still different, and the two classes are still very much unique in their own rights. Because of the above, I would say Legend swapping together with the energy system makes the class unique enough for me. As for the roles, it's true that I can't guarantee Condi Renegade will still be meta forever, or Alac Ren will always be able to bring 10-man alacrity. What I have come to appreciate the class for though, is its mechanics as I've described above, and the versatility the legends bring. I do have concerns about the mobility creep EoD might bring to the game, but that won't stop me from playing Power Herald in WvW - the synergy between Glint/Shiro and sword/sword + staff is something I still won't be able to find on other classes. I have enjoyed it since 2018, and new elite specs don't mean that I will stop enjoying it.

For what it's worth, yes there probably have been instances of builds being nerfed to the point where they lost their identities. I can think of Staff Weaver in PvE, which should have been a squishy but high DPS build, considering there are a lot of damage skills on staff and Ele is inherently squishy. These cases however are not common and definitely not a widespread problem, but a problem with Staff Weaver in particular and has been raised many times over.

An energy system and the legend mechanic.

Yes - and they are thematically and mechanically different, again what is your point? You are arguing about a class having to be the absolute best at some certain thing, and that's not what the Lead Designer said at all.

To be clear, the classes you list mostly each have their own niches. Warriors bring banner, Condi Firebrand can bring quickness, Power Dragonhunter is bursty but falls off in longer fights, Ele excels on large hitboxes, Revs can absolutely delete breakbars, etc. Not to mention the classes' themes are inherently different. I main a Rev, and that's because I like the Energy and Legend Swapping mechanic, and my favorite build is Power Herald, because of the flow between Glint and Shiro. It's been that way since 2018, through updates and patches - I enjoy it for the theme and mechanic. If ANet nerfed the build to the point of being unplayable, that would be a balancing issue - but it being not the meta build doesn't mean too much to me as long as it's still a viable option. Why are you so persistent in chasing what a class does what best? Why is that important, unless you care about min maxing (which I doubt since you pull builds off of MetaBattle and give the impression you've hardly done those contents)? Why are you so worked up about the idea that tomorrow this class won't be the best at this thing anymore? Again, It might be a problem if suddenly the build is no longer viable, but simply not being the best at a specific task isn't the end of the world.

To answer the original question directly, Revenant can provide permanent 10-man Alacrity. Revenant also has arguably the best solo open world PvE build in Condi Renegade with very high DPS and best in game sustain (Battle Scars + Runes of Tormenting). It also has the meta ranged DPS build in WvW Zerging with Power Herald.