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Be patient, it'll come with Cantha.

Looks like Wooden Potatoes thinks it's an obvious choice as well. :)Revenant is at 06:30, since apparently embedding timestamped videos doesn't work.

@"Thornwolf.9721" That is a really long post, that honestly feels a bit ranty, but I'll touch on a few things.You keep claiming that Ritualist uses the same Death magic as the Necromancer and that is completely untrue! Ritualist and Revenant both tap into the Mists for their power, one with the Canthan heroes and spirits of old, and the other with the more broad Tyrian (as Revenant is Rit reimagined for the second game with other races than Humans in mind) legends and spirits. This is one of the quotes of Professor Gai, one of the ritualist trainers:"I have often found that Ritualists will progressively become more incisive, mordant, and paradoxical as they maintain confluence with the Mists." And while Kalla already has access to spirits, I would like next spec to focus more on magic channeling side of Ritualist.You can also check one of my posts above to see how Rev has inherited Ritualists theme, and how Necro has little to do with it.I am also of the opinion that not every race has to have their own Legend, Jora or Svanir are no more worthy of becoming legends than Togo is. Especially if they bring us more of the same, melee focused gameplay we're already shoehorned in.

Well then I don't want ritualist to show up at all... I really don't want rev to be forced into that role. I say let the necromance have it and get a slight theme change with spirits, ashes and so on maybe get some Bone shields and wall spells as well. Heck maybe let them get sword and shield and make them something of a warrior, that takes the ritualists teachings and uses it to hold the line. Revenants need something a bit cooler, something not so limited. Ritualists are super close to both guardians and necromancers within this game; I feel like Revenant really can get anything (Kalla had nothing to do with PoF) Revenant already has the most in common thematically with the Ritualist, whether you or some other Necromancers on this forum would like to admit. But that's not the topic here, if you like there's one in the Revenant section. I don't really care for necromancer in guild wars 2 (Was much better in GW1), Im a rev main and as a rev main I don't want ritualist on this class mainly because Its too samey. We have the aesthetic sure but just because we have blind folds doesn't mean we are the same. If you go by that logic than demon hunters from wow are essentially ritualists as well, blind-fold parties all around! In all seriousness though they use two different types of magic, Ritualists use souls and tap into the dead and not the mists themselves where as the mists are an inbetween of infinite realities and memories of said realities. For example Shiro exists in the mists, but the shiro we know was sealed and or killed within the domain of anguish and his soul was freed and allowed to pass into its true destination (Whatever that may be) in a side quest. Revenants are not Ritualists and they have little in common outside of aesthetic in their armor, to some degree. But Ritualists are just a different form of necromancy which is probably why they are not their own class; You could see them working Rit into necromancer easily. The ashes could be their ulities functioning similarly to Glint's up-keep skills where you need soul energy (Shroud) to keep them going. Your passive summons spirits through you and brings them to the physical world who will remain while your in combat, and based on trait decisions they can be damage or support or a hybrid of both. Then your shroud skills could be perhaps a mixture of skills such as splintered weapons, and other boons as well combat effects such as "Sacrifice" where you mark an enemy and deal more damage to them while constantly siphoning essence and health from them. Then your weapon skills could be your channeling spells this way the whole class is represented and is not limited by features, If you go with rev you will loose a lot of that. Mainly because I doubt they will remove the legend swap mechanic and you'd have to fit it into what we already have. Plus Ritualist was a light armor class, necromancer is as well and with Ritualist we could get mobility which is something necromancers lack and it opens the door for the ritualist to be our highly mobile, sustained-burst/support dps spec. They then could rework scourge to be strictly support or dps and reaper would be your frontline spec. The first two e-specs and core lack the mobility and sustained punching power, but make up for it in burst and utility that is unique to them. Plus there are no legendary figures outside of Togo and Razah who fit the bill for a legendary rit, and Razah could become ANY class and was not limited to remaining as a rit so I doubt it would be him. And togo would be a boring choice and one Id hate, which means we would be stuck with another meh character that would bring nothing new to the revenant... however the spec WOULD bring new mechanics and gameplay to the necro.. Look at it like this, A-net will do whatever makes it the most new and interesting. Revenant would not be that for this spec infact Id dare to say that it would feel much like core revenant if not a little more limited. Necromancer would not only fit the theme better but would also give the spec some more wiggle room due to core having some interesting mechanics, imagine a death magic/soul-reaping/ritualist build? Or one with blood magic utilizing their restoration skills. The possibilities are endless and the theory craft is vast (plus they could give you ritualist cosmetics for the necromancer, change its coloring for the new specs skills to be a more blueish green and there. Bam. Ready to go.)Like i already said, if you want to continue this discussion move it to the Ritualist thread in the Revenant section.

Well then I don't want ritualist to show up at all... I really don't want rev to be forced into that role. I say let the necromance have it and get a slight theme change with spirits, ashes and so on maybe get some Bone shields and wall spells as well. Heck maybe let them get sword and shield and make them something of a warrior, that takes the ritualists teachings and uses it to hold the line. Revenants need something a bit cooler, something not so limited. Ritualists are super close to both guardians and necromancers within this game; I feel like Revenant really can get anything (Kalla had nothing to do with PoF) Revenant already has the most in common thematically with the Ritualist, whether you or some other Necromancers on this forum would like to admit. But that's not the topic here, if you like there's one in the Revenant section.

At least we should have the option to side with Kurzicks and Luxons again, maybe help them separate from the Empire.

I'd like Vampiric theme the most, they can tie it in with Hopping Vampires from Echovald Forest.Ritualist is a big no for Necromancer I'm afraid.

While Renegade did get them, Ritualist was more than spirits tho. What I'm proposing is embracing the more magical feel with spell casting playstyle.

Ritualist Third eye iconBlindfold as iconic headpieceMist magicConnection with Canthan heroes and spiritsLight armorRevenant Third eye iconBlindfold as iconic headpieceMist magicConnection with Tyrian legends and spiritsHeavy armorChampion Ritualist PvP titleNecromancer Skull iconCorpsepaintDeath magicFlesh, bone and shadow minionsLight armorChampion Phantom PvP title

I hope they do them justice in GW2. That's.... beautiful.... thanks for an helpful sharing. By chance, do you know names of some places using that gothic architecture?Echovald Forest is a zone with Kurzick cathedrals built in and around it's huge trees.

I hope they do them justice in GW2.

I'd be fine with just the connection exploration, kinda like how in POF there are NPCs for every new elite specialization, ours could be a Ritualist that share's some of its knowledge with Revenants without actually teaching us to become one, as we might be the first one's they meet after their long isolation (there's also the possibility of them knowing about us through our shared connection with the Mists).And there's also a strong possibility that they will deal with Assassin and Ritualist the same way they did with Paragon and Dervish and just make them as an NPC profession.

Yeah I do think we need to get a new off-hand as well, there are a few options beside focus that would fit the ritualistic theme but my personal favourite might actually be the warhorn, just so I can use Verdarach. I know that you can't get over that fact that thematically we share so much with the Ritualist, and we even got spirits with Renegade. And as someone who supposedly wants so see Ritualist make a comeback you sure love to undermine and downplay the facts that it belongs on Rev, and you use your own headcanon to try and justify it..

as much as i would like to play with warhorn or dagger, i could see that greatsword will come. Esp cuz 7/10 revs would prefer that. Hopefully Arena Net doesn't design specializations based on what players supposedly want, but what will spice up the gameplay of a profession. Sadly I feel like greatsword would not.

So as we all know the next expansion will finally take us back to Cantha, and with that it makes sense that Revenant's connection to the Canthan Ritualist will finally be explored.The talk of whether or not it should happen, or will it even be called Ritualist and what legend would accompany it has been going on in other threads, so I thought that it would be better if we focus that discussion in one thread.While the spirits were already given to Renegade, what I'd like to see explored with Master Togo as my legend of choice is the Channeling Magic aspect of the Ritualist, with scepter as our new e-spec weapon.But with that said, we know that a ranged main hand wouldn't work with our current two off-hands, so I'd like to see focus, warhorn or dagger added with the scepter or as a new weapon.

Hey that Cosmic horror theme sounds kinda fun, maybe you should suggest it in the Necromancer section?

What does Aesgir have to do with Cantha? If they decide to add e-specs with Icebrood Saga then fine, but we should get a Canthan legend when we go there.They did gave spirits to Renegade but Ritualist was more than that. My wish is that they focus on Channeling Magic with scepter/focus/warhorn or whatever and finally spice up our gameplay. Has Anet literally ever given us a legend related to an expac...? Glint had no real relation to heart of thorns literally other than "the exalted once followed her" which didn't become relavent until ls4 when aurene hatched, and kalla is related to PoF...how exactly? Im entirely unconvinced we'll have a legend directly tied to Cantha, especially when we already have Shiro.Exactly that's why people dislike Kalla, that and her being a classical agenda character that took a spot of someone more fitting to Elona. Apart from the Druid the HOT one's were all over the place, but in POF they did a better job of tying them to the region.

What does Aesgir have to do with Cantha? If they decide to add e-specs with Icebrood Saga then fine, but we should get a Canthan legend when we go there.They did gave spirits to Renegade but Ritualist was more than that. My wish is that they focus on Channeling Magic with scepter/focus/warhorn or whatever and finally spice up our gameplay.

Ritualist is necromancer's. Don't touch it with your dervish spiritual successor hands. Laughs with my Champion Ritualist title.

Ritualist Rev with scepter.

Nice bait name, but we want Ritualist.

They tried to bring us down, told us to stop asking for it, that it's never going to happen. Finally I'm excited about the future of Guild Wars 2 again. Cantha!

I hope not.

We've had a jungle, desert and now snow with Icebrood Saga, Cantha would at least bring some diverse environment at least.Also hopefully Ritualist specialization for Revenant.

This is their response to us complaining about shield for years, they're bringing other weapons down to it's trash level.