Hotride.2187 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) So I'm slowly going through the story/LS mastery achievements (cause I'm that bored) and the finicky ones are really unenjoyable to retry. There is so much traversal, unskippable dialogs and just plain boring moments/fights. Like "don't get hit by blah blah", wait 5+ min to retry. I'm guessing they've tried to "balance" the frustration factor by making the achievement easier to do (so you don't have to retry 50 times, as retrying is lame)... That neither gives me the satisfaction of having done something difficult (an achievement) nor am I excited to try again - by the time I get to attempt again I already forgot what I was doing. The only thing I can reasonably do is put something to watch on my 2nd display and just grind it through. Is there some clever way to retry the achievement attempt, or its just poor design? I'm trying to log out as soon as I'm done with an achievement / to try to retry from a checkpoint... but for HoT that doesn't seem to work. Edited May 6, 2022 by Hotride.2187 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Hotride.2187 said: So I'm slowly going through the story/LS mastery achievements (cause I'm that bored) and the finicky ones are really unenjoyable to retry. There is so much traversal, unskippable dialogs and just plain boring moments/fights. Like "don't get hit by blah blah", wait 5+ min to retry. I'm guessing they've tried to "balance" the frustration factor by making the achievement easier to do (so you don't have to retry 50 times, as retrying is lame)... That neither gives me the satisfaction of having done something difficult (an achievement) nor am I excited to try again - by the time I get to attempt again I already forgot what I was doing. The only thing I can reasonably do is put something to watch on my 2nd display and just grind it through. Is there some clever way to retry the achievement attempt, or its just poor design? I'm trying to log out as soon as I'm done with an achievement / to try to retry from a checkpoint... but for HoT that doesn't seem to work. The reason it dont work in hot is because those story instances dont have any check points. Infact Anet have been very sparse with check points in general over the story chapters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vayne.8563 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 I started to change at least a bit with Season 3. Season 2, you're out of luck. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebraKadabra.5278 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Season 2 was horrid with not being able to get achievements on your very first run through the content. So much so that the devs acknowledged it and never did it again. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mell.4873 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/7/2022 at 4:37 AM, Hotride.2187 said: So I'm slowly going through the story/LS mastery achievements (cause I'm that bored) and the finicky ones are really unenjoyable to retry. There is so much traversal, unskippable dialogs and just plain boring moments/fights. Like "don't get hit by blah blah", wait 5+ min to retry. I'm guessing they've tried to "balance" the frustration factor by making the achievement easier to do (so you don't have to retry 50 times, as retrying is lame)... That neither gives me the satisfaction of having done something difficult (an achievement) nor am I excited to try again - by the time I get to attempt again I already forgot what I was doing. The only thing I can reasonably do is put something to watch on my 2nd display and just grind it through. Is there some clever way to retry the achievement attempt, or its just poor design? I'm trying to log out as soon as I'm done with an achievement / to try to retry from a checkpoint... but for HoT that doesn't seem to work. Honestly bring friends and all do the achievements together and use a guide since some can be hidden. They build in the fact that you have extra player in the later seasons/expansions but the early ones they don't so you can in a sense abuse it especially if there is a boss fight. I just did the bug in the system from LW4 and everyone get to become a cube that can disable other cubes which is cool way to add other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotride.2187 Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) Well, I'm done with the story mastery achievements now (left are the eod map "mastery" ones, not sure if I count those). Ironically the last one I did was "Rock Dodger", where you are given a challenge mote... when you finish the fight. No restart on-demand or when you let yourself die. When you finish the fight. Which is like... we don't want to waste your time, sort of? Or maybe its like... we want to waste your time but this time we don't want to be obnoxious about it? Anyway my opinion has not improved. A lot of easy "achievements" that are frustrating/obnoxious to repeat. And a lot of purely timesink "achievements". But oh well, at least its something to do. The game doesn't lack that at least. Edited June 14, 2022 by Hotride.2187 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax.7308 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) New player here, i have the same filing abaut the achivments in the game, wen you go to the achivnent panel, most achivments just tell you the name of the achivment and does not telyou wath you need to do or were to go, on top of that there is not achivment page or internet achivment guide, i have the filing that in this game you have to spend more time in wikis then playing the game GW2 wiki, gw2 youtube tutorials, snowcrows, metabatle, gw2mits, gw2 craft, gw2 eficiency, gw2 trading post, gw2 timers, ark dps, taco 💩💩💩💩 This need to change, why there is not a mantery point for events timer, location, metas, etc? Why your craft master does not teachyou wath to buy and were to get materials and recepies to help you level up you crafting profetion? Edited June 15, 2022 by Drax.7308 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 14 hours ago, Drax.7308 said: New player here, i have the same filing abaut the achivments in the game, wen you go to the achivnent panel, most achivments just tell you the name of the achivment and does not telyou wath you need to do or were to go, on top of that there is not achivment page or internet achivment guide, i have the filing that in this game you have to spend more time in wikis then playing the game GW2 wiki, gw2 youtube tutorials, snowcrows, metabatle, gw2mits, gw2 craft, gw2 eficiency, gw2 trading post, gw2 timers, ark dps, taco 💩💩💩💩 This need to change, why there is not a mantery point for events timer, location, metas, etc? Why your craft master does not teachyou wath to buy and were to get materials and recepies to help you level up you crafting profetion? Well they expect people to explore to find it themselfs. The wiki get edited by players after they found and done the things so it is possible to do ingame. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD.4673 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 The Caithe centaur dodge one, the end of Season 2 "dodge falling rocks" one in the magic cave, and the world summit dragon attack dodging one are the worst. The last one might be the absolute worst, though the achievement itself isn't as hard as the others. Because you have. to. sit. through. the. entire. summit. every. time. And what the other guy said about the challenge mote: god, that annoyed me. It was faster to just re-do the instance than to finish the fight and use the mote... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotride.2187 Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, LSD.4673 said: the world summit dragon attack dodging one are the worst. The last one might be the absolute worst, though the achievement itself isn't as hard as the others. Because you have. to. sit. through. the. entire. summit. every. time. Ah yes I saw how it was going with the instance (you have to sit through slowwalking/slowtalking NPCs doing "processions" and "negotiations")... and I made extra certain I can do all the crap on 2-3 attempts. It just tells you no dev has tried to do most of these achievements normally, they probably just restarted the encounters with whatever tools they have available as developers. Maybe didn't even attempt doing them themselves, just went "yeah, that sounds reasonable". Edited June 16, 2022 by Hotride.2187 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blude.6812 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Hotride.2187 said: It just tells you no dev has tried to do most of these achievements normally, they probably just restarted the encounters with whatever tools they have available as developers. Maybe didn't even attempt doing them themselves, just went "yeah, that sounds reasonable". ^^^^ this. I sometimes think this is the case for many other aspects of the game as well. Edited June 16, 2022 by Blude.6812 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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