Improving match maker more important than balance right now

[JTGuevara.9018]

39 minutes ago, Faux Play.6104 said:

 

That is not factually accurate.  If you are getting around 12 pts for a win loss you are playing teams at your ability level.

Nope. You are playing teams at the level that the matchmaker THINKS you are at.

[Multicolorhipster.9751]

13 hours ago, Exedore.6320 said:

The matchmaker is good enough. It would function better with a higher population, but you'll always see anomalies at the edges and during slow times regardless of the algorithm chosen.

Pfffft. Its not even remotely close to good enough. If it was, maybe there would be a higher population for it to work with, and even then it would still be broken because of things like DuoQ.

13 hours ago, Exedore.6320 said:

 

The bigger problem is that skill doesn't mean enough until you get to the very top. Until then, people are carried by build choice. If you're slightly better at face-rolling and not standing in fires, then you move up. When there is such little difference in skill, no algorithm can rank people well according to skill. This is due to game design choices since HoT, which falls under balance.

Because skill matters so much when you get to the top.

It definitely doesn't just transform into a game of DuoQ and metagaming the matchmaker to win.

Its been proven at this point that DuoQ's can break the matchmaker and that's not hyperbole. But no, let's all get mad at balance and ignore that. Skill issue 🤪

[Avatar.3568]

5 hours ago, Multicolorhipster.9751 said:

Pfffft. Its not even remotely close to good enough. If it was, maybe there would be a higher population for it to work with, and even then it would still be broken because of things like DuoQ.

Because skill matters so much when you get to the top.

It definitely doesn't just transform into a game of DuoQ and metagaming the matchmaker to win.

Its been proven at this point that DuoQ's can break the matchmaker and that's not hyperbole. But no, let's all get mad at balance and ignore that. Skill issue 🤪

Well the good Players are Always at the top

[Multicolorhipster.9751]

23 minutes ago, Avatar.3568 said:

Well the good Players are Always at the top

I haven't ever in the course of 33 ranked seasons seen 1 good player at the top.

What I have seen is a lot of decent players that all play at around the same high-plat skill level acting as self-proclaimed gods through DuoQ. Absolute clowns.

The same type of people that will fight you for 45 minutes straight in the FFA arena, giving it their absolute 100% to where you can practically smell the sweat, and eventually killing you and then calling you trash.

 

Of course, all this is ignoring what I said earlier about how it actually breaks matchmaking.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/How-does-Matchmaking-currently-work-in-duo/6479945

[Fueki.4753]

36 minutes ago, Avatar.3568 said:

Well the good Players are Always at the top

The question is what they are good at though.

And often the answer is not the game itself, but match manipulation.