KeySpellsong.2569 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 So I am a handicapped gamer, let's just get that out there now. I have tried to get help from the support staff with contacting the devs to try and make the game more accessible for gamers like myself. Things from making story instances combat less grueling to making things like unlocking the Skyscale more accessible. All to no avail, and my latest attempt to get help ended with support staff answering my concerns of ableism in the game design and community with ableist comments of their own. All I wanted was off forum help because I know that this will get me accused of being political when all I want is for the game to be more accessible. This game has a truly wonderful story and amazing set of well written characters, some of those wonderful characters are even disabled themselves. All I am asking is that the content be made more accessible, so that story can be enjoyed and so that things like the Skyscale are more accessible for all the gamers playing Guild Wars 2. Also maybe ask your staff not to address concerns of ableism with more ableism. 1 2 20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 You keep saying "make it more accessible", and people not buying it... What *exactly* did you ask for? 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I'm sure there are players that would help you with any content you are having trouble with. You only need ask. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeySpellsong.2569 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 Have you tried to get the Skyscale? It is a set of very difficult things like jumping puzzles, so not making us go do content like jumping puzzles to unlock mounts would be nice, especially since there are all the very frustrating collections you have to do before and after the set of jumping puzzles. And also I have suggested they add a setting to make combat less grueling in story instances so that the story can be enjoyed by everyone. And yes I would totally support that same setting allowing players to make the combat in story instances more challenging for themselves at the same time, being able to challenge oneself is something a great many gamers like to do and I get that, but not everyone can play at that level and/or maybe just want to enjoy the story. And before anyone says that isn't possible in an MMO it is other MMOs have done this and it works just fine. 1 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeySpellsong.2569 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 Also quit telling handicapped gamers to just get help or let a friend or family member do the content, that is just more ableism. 3 19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoni.7015 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Can’t you skip the jumping puzzles for the skyscale? 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeySpellsong.2569 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 No you can not 😞 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 You can skip the Jumping Puzzles with items from the Trading Post, or you can craft them yourself. Oh, ok. I was unaware that playing with others in an MMO was untoward. My bad. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 minute ago, KeySpellsong.2569 said: No you can not 😞 It is best to research content before posting: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Extra-Pungent_Skyscale_Treat 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeySpellsong.2569 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 Not saying that playing with others is bad, I am just asking that story instances have that sort of setting, and the Skayscale has steps that other players actually can not help with. I am just asking for accessiblilty in things like story or solo content, worl devents and WvW should be played with other in my opinion. 1 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeySpellsong.2569 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 So you are saying go the pay to win or pay to progress route? 2 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, KeySpellsong.2569 said: No you can not 😞 You can skip all of the jumping puzzles for the skyscale. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeySpellsong.2569 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 Again that is pay to win or pay to progress, if you are saying I have to pay more because of my handicap then you have missed the point of why I posted. 1 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 It is obvious nothing will be found acceptable other than changing the game. Good luck. 15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeySpellsong.2569 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 All I am asking is for it to be more accessible is all. 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, KeySpellsong.2569 said: All I am asking is for it to be more accessible is all. Keep on beating that drum... never specify. Just beat on the drum. And always feel attacked when people show the slightest bit of resistance. 19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeySpellsong.2569 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 I was specific. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashTestAuto.9108 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 minute ago, KeySpellsong.2569 said: So you are saying go the pay to win or pay to progress route? Sincere question, what would you do to improve this design whilst keeping an element of challenge/reward in the game? The Skyscale system in particular seems to be designed with the philosophy of "This is challenging for some players, so we'll add an alternative route to progress." If they'd just removed the challenge without also including some kind of penalty, I'm not sure how you could actually design a reward structure (again, I'm genuinely asking what you think would be better). 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoni.7015 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KeySpellsong.2569 said: All I am asking is for it to be more accessible is all. It already is accessible. It’s impossible to make a game that is accessible to literally everyone. If the skyscale jumping puzzles are too difficult for you then you can just buy or craft the item to skip them. Edited January 9, 2023 by yoni.7015 7 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, KeySpellsong.2569 said: So you are saying go the pay to win or pay to progress route? He is saying: use the means which have already been provided to achieve your goal. Those treats are there INTENTIONALLY to let players who are challenged by jumping puzzles (handicapped or not), circumvent them. That is not pay to win, even less when you can farm those items yourself. Sorry but here you just come over as wanting entitled treatment under the guise of being handicapped. There are issues and things which can be improved for players who face issues, this is not one of them. As to the story missions, most of those issues can be resolved with a bit of research and guidance because there are tons of low to near no interaction builds (low intensity builds) which can easily solve all story missions solo. There is no difficulty adjustment needed here. A more prudent approach would be to ask for specific advice, in some cases other players with handicaps themselves will chime in and share how they have overcome these challenges. Edited January 9, 2023 by Cyninja.2954 10 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeySpellsong.2569 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 Not being entitled, just want things to be more accessible, but please attack me, not like I care really just wanted to post this here so that maybe the devs see it and do something to make the game more accessible, and I guess less expensive since everyone suggests I just spend money. Its whatever though, you all are just gonna pile on the "oh their being entitled" bus now. Which is fine and proves my point to the support staff that the forums are not a viable solution for suggesting things like accessiblity in the game. 3 20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuchslein.8639 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 You know the Thing is, where does this Stop? Anet Had to make so many settings for different disabled people. This is Not as easy as you seem to think. And what is so Bad about getting Help? It's better then doing nothing. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KeySpellsong.2569 said: Not being entitled, just want things to be more accessible, but please attack me, not like I care really just wanted to post this here so that maybe the devs see it and do something to make the game more accessible, and I guess less expensive since everyone suggests I just spend money. No one suggested you spend money. Those treats can be crafted yourself. Which means you have in game means to solve this issue without spending a single cent, but please keep riding the self pity train. 2 minutes ago, KeySpellsong.2569 said: Its whatever though, you all are just gonna pile on the "oh their being entitled" bus now. Which is fine and proves my point to the support staff that the forums are not a viable solution for suggesting things like accessiblity in the game. If that is how you come across... There are a ton of accessibility suggestions and some of them get a constructive debate going and ideas added to them. Most of them usually do not revolve around: I want it easier because I don't agree with the options presented to me which would already solve my issue. Edited January 9, 2023 by Cyninja.2954 15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, KeySpellsong.2569 said: just want things to be more accessible BANG! THAT! DRUM! 2 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeySpellsong.2569 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 muting this now. 4 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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