Soulbeast One-shot Combo with Jade Cannon

[kiwituatara.6053]

2 hours ago, Oahkahmewolf.6210 said:

I remember running something similar in the release of Soul beast, did you ever figured out that there was a recursive loop with Vulture stance? The interval was actually broken on vulture stance and wolf stance, so with predator onslaught you can burst someone down real hard with that build.

For those that don't know what a recursive loop, it is a never ending loop.

So the duration of vulture stance and One wolf pack it would work like this.

Hunter call's Activates Vulture stance and one wolf pack

One wolf pack proc vulture stance

anything that proc vulture stance will proc predator onslaught

Predator onslaught will activate vulture stance and one wolf pack

One wolf pack Proc vulture stance which proc predator onslaught which goes back to procing one wolf pack and vulture stance.

Yeah I was on a long break and didn’t play when soulbeast and untamed came out. Wasn’t there to try it out 😕

[Oahkahmewolf.6210]

45 minutes ago, kiwituatara.6053 said:

Yeah I was on a long break and didn’t play when soulbeast and untamed came out. Wasn’t there to try it out 😕

I just remember when I did it, people did not understand what bursted them down. Ontop of that it was first time someone saw a toxic sharpen-stone used. People always message me is ether why or I am scared.

 

Ofcourse people who new how to midigate the condi damage still took considerable amount of damage.

[Mell.4873]

1 hour ago, Oahkahmewolf.6210 said:

I just remember when I did it, people did not understand what bursted them down. Ontop of that it was first time someone saw a toxic sharpen-stone used. People always message me is ether why or I am scared.

 

Ofcourse people who new how to midigate the condi damage still took considerable amount of damage.

That seems to be it again the only class that seems to be able to counter this is Revenant since it has multiple sources of cleansing especially if the run the Ventari Legend. 

[Remus Darkblight.1673]

9 hours ago, Arheundel.6451 said:

No.....it works like this:

1. Busted in PvP?.....nerfs the next patch
2. Busted in PvE?...nerfs within 6 months
3. Busted in roaming/small scale?...nerfs end of summer, in the next 8 months

So basically, you always need to pray something is worthless in PvP but useful everywhere else...it does delay the inevitable nerfs and at least you have time to have some fun

More like this:

Heavy Shot is over performing in WvW so..

We reduced the damage coefficient of Maul, increased the cooldown of Sic'Em, removed the condition removal from Bear Stance, made Ranger traps visible to the enemy, Point blank shot no longer knocks back opponents and now cripples instead, Hunter's shot no longer grants stealth and grants 1 stack of might instead, Rapid shot has been reduced to 5 hits, but to compensate we increased the damage coefficient per hit by 0.001, soulbeast merging and pet swapping cooldown increased by 5 seconds, Rangers now take double damage while merging, Smokescale can now be equipped in PvE only.

[EnderzShadow.2506]

On 12/4/2023 at 3:41 AM, Remus Darkblight.1673 said:

I do wonder sometimes how much they really do use videos like this as data for their balancing. Kiwituatara even states the footage is cherry picked, something I always question when people call a build in a montage "OP".

It certainly reflects my own experiences using similar builds, sometimes it just doesn't work and you get flattened. Since the builds are often so focused into what they do, if you miss your shot or the enemy doesn't die to it, you're left with nothing. When you line up clips of it actually working, which may be only 10% of a play session, of course it's going to look broken.

On top of that, Anet has something of a track record of nerfing part of a particular build or spec seemingly without actually taking into consideration all the other use cases for that skill.

I've never seen a 'Wombo Combo' of any class being repeatable and also worth it. Its always a gimmick.
I think this is what happened to trapper runes stealth removal. But I don't know for a fact since I'm not on the dev team and I wasn't playing then.
I remember a ranger managing to pull off the perfect stealth rotation and basically stealth bomb someone into oblivion lol.
The truth of it was, it was ridiculously hard to pull off and in addition to that, the build was pure glass garbage.

There is always some huge tradeoff that makes it not viable.
But, never fails, the one person that gets hit by it, will scream from the mountain tops how OP said class is.

[EnderzShadow.2506]

On 12/4/2023 at 5:37 PM, Oahkahmewolf.6210 said:

I remember running something similar in the release of Soul beast, did you ever figured out that there was a recursive loop with Vulture stance? The interval was actually broken on vulture stance and wolf stance, so with predator onslaught you can burst someone down real hard with that build.

For those that don't know what a recursive loop, it is a never ending loop.

So the duration of vulture stance and One wolf pack it would work like this.

Hunter call's Activates Vulture stance and one wolf pack

One wolf pack proc vulture stance

anything that proc vulture stance will proc predator onslaught

Predator onslaught will activate vulture stance and one wolf pack

One wolf pack Proc vulture stance which proc predator onslaught which goes back to procing one wolf pack and vulture stance.

Is it still broken?

/Rubs Hands Together Greedily  😆

[DarkFlopy.8197]

12 hours ago, EnderzShadow.2506 said:

I remember a ranger managing to pull off the perfect stealth rotation and basically stealth bomb someone into oblivion lol.
The truth of it was, it was ridiculously hard to pull off and in addition to that, the build was pure glass garbage.

That perhaps might be me? 😅

Been stealth bombing groups/zergs/blobs since EOD release, yesterday a whole guild was chasing me everytime they saw me because I kept bombing them and forcing downies which led to my server pugs to push on them and wipe them.

If the bomb is successful (in terms of full rotation and able to hit enough targets) then can perform another bomb in less than 15sec that way continuing a chain of bombs every 10~20sec.

Edited December 13, 2023 by DarkFlopy.8197

[Ahlaradra.5837]

On 12/1/2023 at 6:28 AM, kiwituatara.6053 said:

If you’re interested, I have a preload condi ranger build. It’s another gimmicky stupid build but I have fun with it.

 

From where suddenly come all these ranger one shot builds? The turtle I understand, but why does this one do so much condition damage? From where?

[kiwituatara.6053]

3 hours ago, Ahlaradra.5837 said:

From where suddenly come all these ranger one shot builds? The turtle I understand, but why does this one do so much condition damage? From where?

Bristleback merged f2

sharpening stone

poison master

preloading dagger2 for 3 stacks

fractal relic

 

I don’t specialise in good builds usually. I like making weird gimmicky builds but they usually just end up as trashy one-shot builds…

Edited December 15, 2023 by kiwituatara.6053

[EnderzShadow.2506]

On 12/13/2023 at 2:05 AM, DarkFlopy.8197 said:

That perhaps might be me? 😅

Been stealth bombing groups/zergs/blobs since EOD release, yesterday a whole guild was chasing me everytime they saw me because I kept bombing them and forcing downies which led to my server pugs to push on them and wipe them.

If the bomb is successful (in terms of full rotation and able to hit enough targets) then can perform another bomb in less than 15sec that way continuing a chain of bombs every 10~20sec.

Maybe? It was at least 5 yrs ago and it was in spvp not in WvW.

[DarkFlopy.8197]

On 12/16/2023 at 12:24 AM, EnderzShadow.2506 said:

Maybe? It was at least 5 yrs ago and it was in spvp not in WvW.

Oh then no, I don't get anywhere near Spvp, that is a blasted place where I don't dare set my foot in, full with win traders and one of the most toxic community out there, I prefer the toxicity of WvW any day over that. that place became a joke, its abandoned by anet and the situation there will just get worse.

[EnderzShadow.2506]

On 12/16/2023 at 4:47 PM, DarkFlopy.8197 said:

Oh then no, I don't get anywhere near Spvp, that is a blasted place where I don't dare set my foot in, full with win traders and one of the most toxic community out there, I prefer the toxicity of WvW any day over that. that place became a joke, its abandoned by anet and the situation there will just get worse.

Its concentrated pvp compared to wvw. there is no roaming around waiting for isht to happen. Its right off the bat.
Win trading and toxic communities.... I haven't experienced that. Most people don't say anything in a match. Maybe you will get the kitten "GG" or "GF" lol...but other than that. I mean occasionally someone rants a bit. "Yall are trash!" stuff like that.

It's not bad. But it is a completely different type of pvp than wvw. I enjoy it.