Eddie.9143 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 how tf is this an actual trait choice comparable to 25% more damage from bleeding lmaoooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shagie.7612 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Heartpiercer isn't very good either though, lol It lost a ton of its value by the pierce being made baseline. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angesombre.4630 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 If we go that way, at least 4 trait changes in the November 28 patch are not good. For me, 3 are no longer interesting. Contained Temper: This trait has been reworked. Gain energy when you break out of stun. Heartpiercer: This trait no longer causes short bow skills to pierce. Song of Arboreum: This trait has been reworked. Energy Meld grants more energy and also grants its energy and vigor to nearby allies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasai.3549 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 8 hours ago, Angesombre.4630 said: If we go that way, at least 4 trait changes in the November 28 patch are not good. For me, 3 are no longer interesting. Contained Temper: This trait has been reworked. Gain energy when you break out of stun. Heartpiercer: This trait no longer causes short bow skills to pierce. Song of Arboreum: This trait has been reworked. Energy Meld grants more energy and also grants its energy and vigor to nearby allies. After some testing and playing, my opinion is that Contained Temper would actually be good if it: 1. Restored more Energy in all modes (5 in competitive is literally a reverse bandaid for the heavy handed cost increase of RS in competitive.) 2. Actually took the place of a Major and not forced on the player as a Minor. I'd freaking take Spirit Boon as a Minor since it's universally JUST GOOD but rarely taken unless you need more Regen via Ventari or Vigor via Alliance or something Heartpiercer really should just be changed to deal more Critical Damage to Bleeding targets. It helps Shortbow the most but hey if we can Bleed the target somehow (allies, Sigil of Earth/Geo) it's useful too! I'm not going into Song discussion. Current Reaver should have been made baseline to encourage Energy Meld mashing and the 3 Master Adepts should have more kick to them. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Angesombre.4630 said: If we go that way, at least 4 trait changes in the November 28 patch are not good. For me, 3 are no longer interesting. Contained Temper: This trait has been reworked. Gain energy when you break out of stun. Heartpiercer: This trait no longer causes short bow skills to pierce. Song of Arboreum: This trait has been reworked. Energy Meld grants more energy and also grants its energy and vigor to nearby allies. Bow now pierces for all revenants, it was removed from the trait cause bow now does it w/O needing of the trait, applying % more damage to bleeding targets could be interesting tho like Yasai.3549 posted, I would do it based on Kala fervour mechanic. Edited December 25, 2023 by Aeolus.3615 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angesombre.4630 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Aeolus.3615 said: Bow now pierces for all revenants, it was removed from the trait cause bow now does it w/O needing of the trait, applying % more damage to bleeding targets could be interesting tho like Yasai.3549 posted, I would do it based on Kala fervour mechanic. I agree that it's still useful, it's just Anet's way of doing things that worries me. 12 hours ago, Yasai.3549 said: After some testing and playing, my opinion is that Contained Temper would actually be good if it: 1. Restored more Energy in all modes (5 in competitive is literally a reverse bandaid for the heavy handed cost increase of RS in competitive.) 2. Actually took the place of a Major and not forced on the player as a Minor. I'd freaking take Spirit Boon as a Minor since it's universally JUST GOOD but rarely taken unless you need more Regen via Ventari or Vigor via Alliance or something Heartpiercer really should just be changed to deal more Critical Damage to Bleeding targets. It helps Shortbow the most but hey if we can Bleed the target somehow (allies, Sigil of Earth/Geo) it's useful too! I'm not going into Song discussion. Current Reaver should have been made baseline to encourage Energy Meld mashing and the 3 Master Adepts should have more kick to them. I was just comparing utility before and after, I agree that 5 energy is a band-aid on an open wound. I was talking about my feelings at the time. Edited December 26, 2023 by Angesombre.4630 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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