PVP version of Hunker Down need to have a longer cooldown and shorter duration. (Pet Skill)

[Last Crab.6054]

Hunker Down (turtle) - Guild Wars 2 Wiki (GW2W)

Rangers complained night and day about smokescreen, saying too long, too often, too much.

So, hypocrisy aside, make some changes to the skill.

CD should be 45s

Duration should be 4 s at most.

Protection granted should only last 1 s

 

Would be nice if you could push then into the next update

[Last Crab.6054]

I also noticed that one of the loudest rangers and conspiracy theorists in the game are quiet now that ranger is in the spot it is, odd....interesting i mean

[arazoth.7290]

47 minutes ago, Last Crab.6054 said:

I also noticed that one of the loudest rangers and conspiracy theorists in the game are quiet now that ranger is in the spot it is, odd....interesting i mean

You mean trevor?

[Shagie.7612]

i think u mean quiet now that ranger is finally balanced and fair

[Rdm.3186]

3 hours ago, Shagie.7612 said:

i think u mean quiet now that ranger is finally balanced and fair

I mean, the personal opinion about how op/ up and how hard/ easy  a class you like/ play is=personal skill +actual strength of that class.

If your lack in skill needs a lot of build carry, you can come to the conclusion that ranger is fine and hard to play atm. 

[Hiro.2573]

I'd rather the devs take a  look at immortal CC Druid before this.

[Sahne.6950]

9 hours ago, Last Crab.6054 said:

I also noticed that one of the loudest rangers and conspiracy theorists in the game are quiet now that ranger is in the spot it is, odd....interesting i mean

Hes quiet cuz he literally got bullied out of the pvp forums...   Some people made it their Life´s work to spam confused on anything he said.

Granted...towards the end he developed some very... hot... takes on rangers performance.

"mace+mace is completly unuseable against even gold players" was probably my favorite one.

Edited May 16 by Sahne.6950

[Frequency.6407]

mace+mace is completly unuseable against even gold player 

because you can roflstomp them with GS.

mace/mace is plat level setup

[aymnad.9023]

About the OP. The F2 is not an issue. I have more problems with the F3 coefficient because it should be more a utility. 

@Sahne.6950 while it seems fun for people to look at this extreme take (because it was) I dislike how the forums have also rewritten history. Did you actively play mace mace (like 20+ games in ranked) before the march patch? Did you watch mAT(EU and NA)? If you did you probably would have noticed that mace was a good weapon but it was not fast enough for a mAT(even for the previous meta) which is why the only build using it was soulbeast (more ways to cc / gap close).  So no maces were / are not the problem.

Then we had time to play the patch with updates to Hammer and WS. I do not think Hammer is used outside of untamed so it does not need changes(outside of the bugfix) and WS had some major changes.

I think smart changes would be:

Mace ambush does not grant any stack of rampant growths + does not self heal -> it removes the interaction that makes mace stronger on untamed than on any other specialization.

Survival instinct : The big newcomer. I do not know which values / effect would be good but it allows more defense and offense than before.

(maybe also) Carnivore : Even if it is not in the meta build I would not mind seing the value get a 10-15% nerf. I can see it in a future build or when less condi clear is needed.

Edited May 17 by aymnad.9023