Legendary Weapon Starter Kits feel samey

[yoni.7015]

Just now, Astralporing.1957 said:

I did. One of those did not repeat.

You can craft them or buy them. 

[Astralporing.1957]

49 minutes ago, yoni.7015 said:

You can craft them or buy them. 

How is that relevant to the argument i was responding to?

[Jumpin Lumpix.6108]

6 hours ago, Linken.6345 said:

My friend had a precursor drop from a moa in queensdale and he made it a legendary so I say it is not more exclusive then?

It is alot harder to get tho.

yah because the drop rate is lower so he's lucky, although due to the legendary starter kit most precursors are now 20g lol so they pretty much rendered the drops in the game outside of infusions, worthless, which was obvious that was going to happen

Edited May 29 by Jumpin Lumpix.6108

[Jumpin Lumpix.6108]

6 hours ago, Ashen.2907 said:

That is a description of rarity not exclusivity.

Oddly enough though GW2 legendary weapons are in fact exclusive...to players of GW2. So yes there is some exclusivity.

you guys really dont know the definition of the word exclusive do you? You should look it up, because saying a legendary is exclusive as in it is rare, or difficult to obtain is correct use of the word.

Edited May 29 by Jumpin Lumpix.6108

[Gotejjeken.1267]

inb4 casuals don't realize Twice Told Legend is a thing...

o wait, never mind ya'll just want free stuff as usual for no work

carry on

[Ashen.2907]

1 hour ago, Jumpin Lumpix.6108 said:

you guys really dont know the definition of the word exclusive do you? You should look it up, because saying a legendary is exclusive as in it is rare, or difficult to obtain is correct use of the word.

You are mistaken. Something can be rare without being exclusive. If there is only one of something then it is rare, if it is then passed around to everyone in a group there is no exclusion.

Anyone who wants legendaries in gw2 can get them. A variety of ways exist, including the ability to get one within moments of buying the game with minimal effort beyond pressing a couple of buttons. As no one in game is excluded from getting legendaries they are, by definition of the word, not exclusive.

Edited May 29 by Ashen.2907

[Jumpin Lumpix.6108]

10 hours ago, Ashen.2907 said:

You are mistaken. Something can be rare without being exclusive. If there is only one of something then it is rare, if it is then passed around to everyone in a group there is no exclusion.

Anyone who wants legendaries in gw2 can get them. A variety of ways exist, including the ability to get one within moments of buying the game with minimal effort beyond pressing a couple of buttons. As no one in game is excluded from getting legendaries they are, by definition of the word, not exclusive.

I'm sorry you're mistaken you don't know the how to use the word exclusive or apply it correctly, and you don't seem to understand how to apply it in the context of the sentence.  The word exclusive has a variety of definitions and uses depending on the context of the sentence. Saying something is exclusive, does not mean that people are excluded completely from getting it (however it does imply that some are, ie the poor and the unlucky).  Some people might be excluded in the sense that it is difficult to obtain or there is some element of it that is exclusionary to some, such as its expensive or rare.  That does not mean that saying something is exclusive that the exclusion that is involved is absolute and/or bars access completely to whatever it is.

think of like a perfume line which is for sale and everyone can buy it and they say this is from so and so's exclusive line/brand.   Meaning it might be a limited release or there is an implication that only certain people with good taste will appreciate what the person is selling and will purchase it as they are part of an exclusive group of individuals who appreciate it, or it might be incredibly expensive so only a few rich people can afford it thus making it exclusive, or that the perfume can only be bought by and sold by the person who is selling it and so its exclusive to them or perhaps it can only be bought at certain specific locations).  Theres lots of uses to the word.  It does not mean its a prohibition an absolute exclusion or a banning or a barring or forbidding or a moratorium like you suggest.

exclusion definition:

"restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned." - It does not say its absolute however.  getting a legendary is restricted in the sense that unless you have money in real life you cant just get it right away and you certainly cant get it as a new player who refuses to spend real life money or is poor and cant afford it.  Additionally Legendaries are more rare/difficult to obtain and are more expensive then other items so its correct to say they are somewhat exclusive or simply exclusive.

Also the definition of exclusive:

"catering or available to only a few, select people; high class and expensive."  Or in referencing the game, those who play the game long enough and have the extensive components to build it

SO i did use the word correctly, and you used one contextual definition of it

Edited May 30 by Jumpin Lumpix.6108

[ShroomOneUp.6913]

On 5/30/2024 at 7:08 AM, Jumpin Lumpix.6108 said:

I'm sorry you're mistaken you don't know the how to use the word exclusive or apply it correctly, and you don't seem to understand how to apply it in the context of the sentence.  The word exclusive has a variety of definitions and uses depending on the context of the sentence. Saying something is exclusive, does not mean that people are excluded completely from getting it (however it does imply that some are, ie the poor and the unlucky).  Some people might be excluded in the sense that it is difficult to obtain or there is some element of it that is exclusionary to some, such as its expensive or rare.  That does not mean that saying something is exclusive that the exclusion that is involved is absolute and/or bars access completely to whatever it is.

think of like a perfume line which is for sale and everyone can buy it and they say this is from so and so's exclusive line/brand.   Meaning it might be a limited release or there is an implication that only certain people with good taste will appreciate what the person is selling and will purchase it as they are part of an exclusive group of individuals who appreciate it, or it might be incredibly expensive so only a few rich people can afford it thus making it exclusive, or that the perfume can only be bought by and sold by the person who is selling it and so its exclusive to them or perhaps it can only be bought at certain specific locations).  Theres lots of uses to the word.  It does not mean its a prohibition an absolute exclusion or a banning or a barring or forbidding or a moratorium like you suggest.

exclusion definition:

"restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned." - It does not say its absolute however.  getting a legendary is restricted in the sense that unless you have money in real life you cant just get it right away and you certainly cant get it as a new player who refuses to spend real life money or is poor and cant afford it.  Additionally Legendaries are more rare/difficult to obtain and are more expensive then other items so its correct to say they are somewhat exclusive or simply exclusive.

Also the definition of exclusive:

"catering or available to only a few, select people; high class and expensive."  Or in referencing the game, those who play the game long enough and have the extensive components to build it

SO i did use the word correctly, and you used one contextual definition of it

dude

Legendaries were NEVER exclusive!
they just required excessive farming for weeks. that's not exclusivity... THAT'S TIME GATING!
this is not wow classic in which you have perform specific tasks including various skill requiring raids and a drop chance. literally ANY component of a gen 1 legendary, even back when they were MERE SKINS of exotic gear level, was obtainable EASILY through dozens of means. YOU CAN SELL THEM TOO. freaking raid skins due to being ascended gear or instantly account bound are more exclusive than legendaries EVER WERE

 

there is nothing exclusive about them. its a mere time investment (and stupid precursor drop chance luck) ONE that anet has deemed now completely unnecessary for gen1, specially when they pushed the legendary armory and made legendary runes, sigils and now relics. heck they gave you a legendary amulet FOR FREE for....PLAYING THE STORY!(transcendence cries int he corner)

 

One can argue that pushing people to have Legendaries so quickly is to bring back the pre ascended gear level patch reward structure: skins alone (plus some doohickies and knickknacks).

if you still want this "exclusivity" you are so delusional about....gen2 is still there....those you can't buy and any important component is account bound. (but to spite you i wish for starter kits with them  coming soon too)
a complete elder dragon set of each big lizard is there too. SO MUCH TIME INVESTMENT STILL UNTAPPED.

[Jumpin Lumpix.6108]

16 minutes ago, ShroomOneUp.6913 said:

dude

Legendaries were NEVER exclusive!
they just required excessive farming for weeks. that's not exclusivity... THAT'S TIME GATING!
this is not wow classic in which you have perform specific tasks including various skill requiring raids and a drop chance. literally ANY component of a gen 1 legendary, even back when they were MERE SKINS of exotic gear level, was obtainable EASILY through dozens of means. YOU CAN SELL THEM TOO. freaking raid skins due to being ascended gear or instantly account bound are more exclusive than legendaries EVER WERE

 

there is nothing exclusive about them. its a mere time investment (and stupid precursor drop chance luck) ONE that anet has deemed now completely unnecessary for gen1, specially when they pushed the legendary armory and made legendary runes, sigils and now relics. heck they gave you a legendary amulet FOR FREE for....PLAYING THE STORY!(transcendence cries int he corner)

 

One can argue that pushing people to have Legendaries so quickly is to bring back the pre ascended gear level patch reward structure: skins alone (plus some doohickies and knickknacks).

if you still want this "exclusivity" you are so delusional about....gen2 is still there....those you can't buy and any important component is account bound. (but to spite you i wish for starter kits with them  coming soon too)
a complete elder dragon set of each big lizard is there too. SO MUCH TIME INVESTMENT STILL UNTAPPED.

There is a degree of exclusivity to legendaries.  The degree of exclusivity was lowered when they offered legendary components in the dailies.  This allowed newer players to get them more easily but it came at the expense of lowering the exclusivity of the legendaries.

[ShroomOneUp.6913]

7 hours ago, Jumpin Lumpix.6108 said:

There is a degree of exclusivity to legendaries.  The degree of exclusivity was lowered when they offered legendary components in the dailies.  This allowed newer players to get them more easily but it came at the expense of lowering the exclusivity of the legendaries.

the word you are looking for is PRESTIGE. NOT exclusivity.
and at one point dungeon armor and Orr Karma vendor armor was meant to be prestige. But then people complained about getting tokens not fast enough, which then ultimately led to the ascended gear level update, cause people got way to fast lvl 80 exotic gear ( ever wondered why exotic drops are lvl 78? that's a remnant for that time)

but with time OTHER rewards for prestige were introduced: various gadgets in PVP which you will NEVER get unless you win a monthly tournament (THAT is exclusive). Time intensive skins for back pieces  and later on, although i dislike how its done, glider and mount skins through gem store acquisition. And many more things.
And "prestige has been diminished" of gen1 legendaries for YEARS now. With the introduction of precursor crafting instead of increasing the drop rate or make certain weapons drop from certain world bosses ( seriously getting frost fang from jormag's claw would have been decent), the introduction of legendary armory that removed the need to swap armor between alts or have dozen of duplicates (derior still cries over his 30 sets of raid legendary armor being not compensated properly) and now with starter kits.

if you want to complain about the loss of prestige (NOT exclusivity) you are 7 years to late.

Edited June 2 by ShroomOneUp.6913